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Post by Werebeaver on Aug 21, 2023 9:30:59 GMT -8
Looks like USC made Jen Cohen an offer she couldn’t refuse
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Post by speakthetruth on Aug 21, 2023 9:49:41 GMT -8
She is deserving of the F U award.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Aug 21, 2023 10:25:31 GMT -8
Everyone looks out for their own "enlightened self interests" at the end of the day.
I am sure moving to USC will mean more money for her, more money to manage, more visibility, more future opportunities....
Now we can debate what "more, more, more" is doing to the world, but looks like she might have steered some decisions to align with her "enlightened self interests". She isn't the first or last to do so in this sordid Pac-12 dissolution affair. And USC might have identified her providing good optics to their "hostile work environment" issues.
Now what would be interesting is what the timing of her move truly was - did the President of UW know of this impending move?
My suspicion is "probably so", as AD hires probably take some time. But if not, this reeks.
Kinda doesn't matter, though, as WA and USC have left the Pac station.
Now we just need to see if Stanford boards some train going by....
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Aug 21, 2023 11:19:58 GMT -8
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 21, 2023 11:19:58 GMT -8
Hmmmm......Carol Folt, and Jen Cohen together at USC. This is all F'n dirty.....and USC pulled all the strings. I'm tellin ya, they wanted the conf to fail. That's why Folt/USC blocked the Big 12 coming on board.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 21, 2023 12:13:00 GMT -8
Hmmmm......Carol Folt, and Jen Cohen together at USC. This is all F'n dirty.....and USC pulled all the strings. I'm tellin ya, they wanted the conf to fail. That's why Folt/USC blocked the Big 12 coming on board. USC wanted a keep what you kill deal and kept pushing it by trying to get the Big 12 teams onboard. If it was going to be an equal split, though, USC was always opposed to expansion. They wanted to be the biggest fish in a tiny pond. UCLA and USC have had one foot out of the door for at least 50 years, though. And they have both been slimeballs for at least the last 80. UCLA and USC's actions are either completely surprising in an entirely unsurprising way or completely unsurprising in an entirely surprising way. Take your pick. |
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 21, 2023 12:15:34 GMT -8
Hmmmm......Carol Folt, and Jen Cohen together at USC. This is all F'n dirty.....and USC pulled all the strings. I'm tellin ya, they wanted the conf to fail. That's why Folt/USC blocked the Big 12 coming on board. USC wanted a keep what you kill deal and kept pushing it by trying to get the Big 12 teams onboard. If it was going to be an equal split, though, USC was always opposed to expansion. They wanted to be the biggest fish in a tiny pond. UCLA and USC have had one foot out of the door for 50 years, though. They have been slimeballs for at least the last 80 Arrogant aholes? Kinda like UW and hole? |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 21, 2023 12:30:35 GMT -8
Hmmmm......Carol Folt, and Jen Cohen together at USC. This is all F'n dirty.....and USC pulled all the strings. I'm tellin ya, they wanted the conf to fail. That's why Folt/USC blocked the Big 12 coming on board. USC wanted a keep what you kill deal and kept pushing it by trying to get the Big 12 teams onboard. If it was going to be an equal split, though, USC was always opposed to expansion. They wanted to be the biggest fish in a tiny pond. UCLA and USC have had one foot out of the door for at least 50 years, though. And they have both been slimeballs for at least the last 80. UCLA and USC's actions are either completely surprising in an entirely unsurprising way or completely unsurprising in an entirely surprising way. Take your pick. Slimeballs from LA? No way! |
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Post by ag87 on Aug 21, 2023 12:43:51 GMT -8
Looks like USC made Jen Cohen an offer she couldn’t refuse so a B10 athletic director is killing the pac while still employed by a pac school? What do the attorneys here say? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 21, 2023 12:49:55 GMT -8
USC wanted a keep what you kill deal and kept pushing it by trying to get the Big 12 teams onboard. If it was going to be an equal split, though, USC was always opposed to expansion. They wanted to be the biggest fish in a tiny pond. UCLA and USC have had one foot out of the door for at least 50 years, though. And they have both been slimeballs for at least the last 80. UCLA and USC's actions are either completely surprising in an entirely unsurprising way or completely unsurprising in an entirely surprising way. Take your pick. Slimeballs from LA? No way! The LA schools with California and Washington blew up the old Pacific Coast Conference to try and join a better conference, only to realize that they were at least 40 years too early. They then joined up with Stanford to create the AAWU with five teams, which would not even fly today. Fortunately, Terry Baker showed up in campus the next fall to help get Oregon State and Oregon back in the Pac-8. Back then, Stanford and Washington were working behind the scenes to pull strings to get first Wazzu and then the Oregon schools in the Pac-8. And Oregon State refused to join the AAWU without Oregon. Truly a different time. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 21, 2023 12:53:31 GMT -8
Looks like USC made Jen Cohen an offer she couldn’t refuse so a B10 athletic director is killing the pac while still employed by a pac school? What do the attorneys here say? Athletic Directors only have obligations to their university, not their conference. I doubt that there is a true Sherman Act violation. If, somehow, you can get one of the other conferences doing something to help, maybe. But on its face, what is your concern? |
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Post by rgeorge on Aug 21, 2023 13:00:45 GMT -8
Everyone looks out for their own "enlightened self interests" at the end of the day. I am sure moving to USC will mean more money for her, more money to manage, more visibility, more future opportunities.... Now we can debate what "more, more, more" is doing to the world, but looks like she might have steered some decisions to align with her "enlightened self interests". She isn't the first or last to do so in this sordid Pac-12 dissolution affair. And USC might have identified her providing good optics to their "hostile work environment" issues. Now what would be interesting is what the timing of her move truly was - did the President of UW know of this impending move? My suspicion is "probably so", as AD hires probably take some time. But if not, this reeks. Kinda doesn't matter, though, as WA and USC have left the Pac station. Now we just need to see if Stanford boards some train going by.... In that biz, at the Admin level, getting to work out of the grasp of public information being available is a huge positive. No internal dealing or financial decisions are public record. She gets to remain in charge of a huge athletic department, and one that is not saddled with huge debt service on one of the ugliest stadiums on some of the priciest real estate in the country. The empty space of starting a new thread title is more interesting than any USC or UW topic. On this forum, thank gawd she didn't go to ___! But, I'm sure someone will somehow make a connection to them as it seem every thread ultimately does!  |
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Post by Werebeaver on Aug 21, 2023 13:26:22 GMT -8
Everyone looks out for their own "enlightened self interests" at the end of the day. I am sure moving to USC will mean more money for her, more money to manage, more visibility, more future opportunities.... Now we can debate what "more, more, more" is doing to the world, but looks like she might have steered some decisions to align with her "enlightened self interests". She isn't the first or last to do so in this sordid Pac-12 dissolution affair. And USC might have identified her providing good optics to their "hostile work environment" issues. Now what would be interesting is what the timing of her move truly was - did the President of UW know of this impending move? My suspicion is "probably so", as AD hires probably take some time. But if not, this reeks. Kinda doesn't matter, though, as WA and USC have left the Pac station. Now we just need to see if Stanford boards some train going by.... Not disagreeing. But I’d just add that self-interest might be enlightened or it might not be. Depends on an individual’s capacity for enlightenment. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Aug 21, 2023 15:08:32 GMT -8
Just heard part of the usc news conference introducing the new AD. She briefly talked about one of her sons that plays football at Montana. If she was able to watch her son play week after week I wonder how she would feel if Instead of driving or flying across the western states suddenly Montana said we are breaking our ties with the big sky and we are now going to be affiliated with a league now centered in the Midwest/east coast. You never hear from the parents. Its always the AD with an inflated ego bragging how much money will be made not a care inthe the world about parents or the athletes.
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Post by grackle on Aug 21, 2023 15:20:40 GMT -8
The dissolution of the PAC seemed weird from the start...(1) USC surprisingly hires Mike Bonn as AD-- Bonn has strong BIG10 ties; (2) Bonn relatively quickly thereafter vetoes an arrangement which would have brought UTexas and UOklahoma in to the PAC. Their addition would have greatly strengthened the PAC; (3) not long afterward Bonn completes a clandestine deal for USC to join the BIG10. Moreover, UCLA joins Bonn and USC in fleeing to the BIG10, in spite of considerable opposition across the UCLA campus to the move. No explanation has ever been made public about what coerced or convinced UCLA to go along with Bonn; (4) surprisingly, UW then contributes mightily to the final destruction of the PAC by also joining the BIG10, BUT the UW AD immediately then takes over as AD at USC.
Maybe there is nothing particularly bizarre about all this...$$$ was there and USC and others took it. However, it strikes me that this all actually stinks on ice....a scenario could be constructed where Bonn was a BIG10 ringer whose purpose from the start was always to do everything he could to hurt the PAC with a view toward strengthening the BIG10. Once he managed to pry USC loose from the PAC, the TV money available to others sealed the PAC's fate.
I would love to see some sort of congressional investigation into this whole mess. That wouldn't change much, but it would be nice to know the truth.
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Post by speakthetruth on Aug 21, 2023 15:38:58 GMT -8
I'm not sure we can handle the truth.
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