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Post by jimbeav on Aug 4, 2023 21:10:21 GMT -8
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Post by jimbeav on Aug 4, 2023 21:44:25 GMT -8
To add to this...the above radio host repeats an excellent point:
Let's add up what each school will make after their move:
USC: $70m UCLA: $70m Oregon: $35m UW: $35m Colorado: $31m Arizona: $31m ASU: $31m Utah: $31m
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the massive Bay Area TV market is worth at LEAST the Big 12's $31m payout for Cal and Stanford.
Add up those 10 teams, and you're at $406m. Even if you allow NOTHING for OSU and WSU, you're at an average of $33m per team if you divide it up between the 12 current members.
This is all being GLADLY paid by ESPN and Fox. But not if they're in the PAC-12.
Even if we take UCLA and USC out of it since they already did their money grab, we're at $266m for the 8 other schools. Again, even if you allow NOTHING for OSU and WSU, this is $27m per school, way more than the $20m that George was able to scrape together.
I believe there's a strong case to be made that the powers that be wanted the PAC-12 to die along with their little upstart network, so they'd quit f*cking up their media empire.
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Post by messi on Aug 4, 2023 23:54:29 GMT -8
I can't imagine, for the life of me, see how ESPN and FOX saw the Pac-12 Network as a thread. Especially when the previous two networks are on more carriers and in more households than the P12N.
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Post by speakthetruth on Aug 5, 2023 3:58:57 GMT -8
It is suspect that fox and espn have that kind of money to pick apart the pac12 but can't put together a package with that kind of money to keep the pac12 intact.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Aug 5, 2023 5:53:44 GMT -8
Big boys want to consolidate power (control) and wealth. This accomplishes both.
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Post by sparty on Aug 5, 2023 6:02:51 GMT -8
I don't think the Pac-12 network was competing against the major television networks. It never fully materialized in what they wanted it to be. Pac-12 network killed its self way before this all happened.
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Post by jimbeav on Aug 5, 2023 8:13:54 GMT -8
I don't think the Pac-12 network was competing against the major television networks. It never fully materialized in what they wanted it to be. Pac-12 network killed its self way before this all happened. You don't think the big boys didn't play a role in PAC-12 Network ever really taking off? That DirecTV was acting completely in a vacuum in keeping it off that platform, even today? The sports media industry has been doing their best to make sure that the major conferences never figure out how to offer a vertical solution that cuts them out of the revenue chain. The PAC-12 was the first to try, and that effort has been kept down as much as could be mustered. This new TV contract was the point where the concept would either finally come into its own, or killed outright. I have no doubt what the media conglomerates wanted, and they got their wish.
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Post by beaver55to7 on Aug 5, 2023 8:23:43 GMT -8
I don't think the Pac-12 network was competing against the major television networks. It never fully materialized in what they wanted it to be. Pac-12 network killed its self way before this all happened. You don't think the big boys didn't play a role in PAC-12 Network ever really taking off? That DirecTV was acting completely in a vacuum in keeping it off that platform, even today? The sports media industry has been doing their best to make sure that the major conferences never figure out how to offer a vertical solution that cuts them out of the revenue chain. The PAC-12 was the first to try, and that effort has been kept down as much as could be mustered. This new TV contract was the point where the concept would either finally come into its own, or killed outright. I have no doubt what the media conglomerates wanted, and they got their wish. I think this is probably on the paranoid side. The pac 12 network was for sale in the negotiations from the start, that was made clear. Since apple doesn’t have production studios, I’m pretty sure the pac 12 network was going to be the basis of their production. The pac 12 network would have been dead in the next deal if anyone would have wanted it or our rights. No one wanted it.
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