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Post by EmeraldEmpire on Jul 23, 2023 11:34:37 GMT -8
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 23, 2023 11:37:57 GMT -8
All the blather about Oregon voting, but basically nothing on the other vote? Hmmmmm.... not like there were more than enough rumors of other schools leaving! But, back to the "respect" card. All of that is pure conjecture. The fact of selection is pretty simple. It had nothing to do with having 10 teams or 12. It has zero to do with withering respect or what team might leave in the future. The top 6 ranked conference Champs (4 highest get byes)... in! That is team one for the Pac10. The next 6 highest ranked teams... in. Meaning no matter the size or respect factor the Pac10 will have to have another top 12 ranked team. Period. And if Washington is 10-2 playing pac 10 and MWC cream puffs while Florida or Michigan is 8-4 playing legit schedules...no doubt the voters will vote accordingly knowing who deserves to be in the 12 team tourney. The CFP poll isn't a bunch of moron media members. First, if you think the Pac10 has a bunch of cream puffs adding SD St, SMU, UNLV, or ?? solves that? All of this is conjecture on both sides of the argument, but 12 vs 10 is not an automatic guarantee of another berth. In your scenario UW is responsible for their 2024 NC schedule, not the CFP poll. Hence, play some folks besides the Portland States and UC Davis types. Plus, the B10 (and SEC) will not play every tough team in the B10 and they play plenty of patsies in the B10 and NC. If the Pac10 Champ gets an automatic, and UW loses in the title game to go 10-2, I'm pretty confident they are in the Top12. But, some years a mid major or two will screw things up. Plus, since the independents (namely ND) can not be a conference champ, they can't be one of the first 6 picked, nor ever get seeded #1-4 and get a bye. So a 2 loss ND probable get one of the 6 at-large picks... IF in the top 12. Michigan in '23... East Carolina, Rutgers, UNLV, Bowling Green, Indiana, Minny, Nebraska, Purdue, Maryland... is 75% of their schedule. Not really too scintillating. In 2024 Michigan begins the new B10 schedule with both USC and UCLA, and have Fresno State, and Texas as NC with Arkansas State. Strong... but if they lose (4) there will likely be (3) other B10 teams with 3 or less losses. I can't see any conference getting a top seed and (3) at large berths. Florida in '23... has an SEC schedule but McNeese St, Charlotte, Vandy are worse than OSU's NC. At least unlike most SEC teams they travel to a tough road opponent @ Utah. In 2024, FL has a Miami and FSU, plus UCF, Samford... and the new SEC schedule with a trip to Texas for the 1st time since 1939. In that case a 3 loss FL team could get some CFP "love" with a 3-1 NC and 6-2 SEC record. The strength of the SEC and B10 schedules if they have some decent NC games will get 3 loss teams some CFP love. But, the argument that any of the aforementioned teams to get to a Pac12 will ever come close to that level is silly talk. Just having 12 teams is not the answer. If you want to get CFP love you schedule right and win... like always. Is is bias toward a more powerful conference(s)? Yep... like always. Again it's complete conjecture that a 4 loss teams gets in over a Pac10 2 loss team. Let's meet back in a few years and see how many 4 loss teams get picked over a 2 loss Pac10 team. And, just MHO, the 12 team playoff is just the "oprahfication" of the postseason. Let's give more folks trophies and participation ribbons while making corporate sponsors and CEOs even more money. It placates the football masses with a ridiculous format that allows the superior teams (seeds #1-4) an extra week of rest and preparation while the lower seeds travel and play an extra game of wear-n-tear. On top of that it doesn't solve any or the issues with selections. Instead of teams 5-8 "ish" having some claims of bias, it just moves to teams #13-16. At least in hoops, every team of the (64... the play-in is stupid also) are on the same page as far as game prep and play. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jul 23, 2023 11:46:23 GMT -8
Of course the arrogant butts should say so. I mean they truly believe they will always be a Top 12 team in this conference, and playing in a 10 team league without USC and UCLA gives them the idea they have a much easier path to the 12-team playoff. Who knows what the TV money will be, but with a 10 team split is could even be a bit less than before and be MORE. I'm not sure what USC and UCLA were thinking... but, the extra $$ can't truly pan out over time with the extra travel and far less chance to win a conference title, and get to a conference title game. But, I hope there isn't way for them to come back unless it is a large, VERY large payout split among the 10 schools. I will say that folks on this board are going to be angry in the future as I see USC and UCLA being scheduled for NC games. They will eventually be the closest and most respected NC opponents for teams to play without huge travel and no return game offered. |
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