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Post by beavaristotle on Jun 6, 2023 8:47:41 GMT -8
Plenty of dirt and hypocrisy to go around. Sounds like a deal where everyone loses
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 6, 2023 9:34:11 GMT -8
Plenty of dirt and hypocrisy to go around. Sounds like a deal where everyone loses Can you imagine how you would feel now if you were one of the guys who turned down $130 mil+ (reportedly for a mid tier guy... $500 mil for Rory) to sign with LIV to "do the right thing" and stay with the PGA tour. Only now have that same tour that sued, and disparaged LIV and all those who signed merge to create and new entity (includes the European Tour also). Funny, I was never too interested in seeking out info, but as far as myself and friends who golf a ton, LIV was really a nonfactor. I believe it was on the CW network?? I never watched or cared to watch one minute as well as anyone I know showing any interest. The only time LIV entered my consciousness was when negative articles would pop up about PGA players commented on whether players should or should not be allowed in certain tourneys. Someone in the PGA (behind closed doors... Lindert, Rea, & other officers/board did you just sell out for multimillions? Did Monahan also gain a large chunk of cash?) made a boatload of money in this signing!! A sh&tload for this sudden change of direction. Greg, Phil and some Middle Eastern puppet master (Saudi Investment Fund) is laughing all the way to the bank, like they need more! And, that the PGA players say they learned about this signing just like all of us... social media and and a public release. Can't wait to see the fallout |
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Post by lebaneaver on Jun 6, 2023 9:54:01 GMT -8
Plenty of dirt and hypocrisy to go around. Sounds like a deal where everyone loses Can you imagine how you would feel now if you were one of the guys who turned down $130 mil+ (reportedly for a mid tier guy... $500 mil for Rory) to sign with LIV to "do the right thing" and stay with the PGA tour. Only now have that same tour that sued, and disparaged LIV and all those who signed merge to create and new entity (includes the European Tour also). Funny, I was never too interested in seeking out info, but as far as myself and friends who golf a ton, LIV was really a nonfactor. I believe it was on the CW network?? I never watched or cared to watch one minute as well as anyone I know showing any interest. The only time LIV entered my consciousness was when negative articles would pop up about PGA players commented on whether players should or should not be allowed in certain tourneys. Someone in the PGA (behind closed doors... Lindert, Rea, & other officers/board did you just sell out for multimillions? Did Monahan also gain a large chunk of cash?) made a boatload of money in this signing!! A sh&tload for this sudden change of direction. Greg, Phil and some Middle Eastern puppet master (Saudi Investment Fund) is laughing all the way to the bank, like they need more! And, that the PGA players say they learned about this signing just like all of us... social media and and a public release. Can't wait to see the fallout Exactly. There will be ahelluvalot of pissed off loyalists to the PGA, and rightfully so. |
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Post by beavaristotle on Jun 6, 2023 9:54:57 GMT -8
Plenty of dirt and hypocrisy to go around. Sounds like a deal where everyone loses Can you imagine how you would feel now if you were one of the guys who turned down $130 mil+ (reportedly for a mid tier guy... $500 mil for Rory) to sign with LIV to "do the right thing" and stay with the PGA tour. Only now have that same tour that sued, and disparaged LIV and all those who signed merge to create and new entity (includes the European Tour also). Funny, I was never too interested in seeking out info, but as far as myself and friends who golf a ton, LIV was really a nonfactor. I believe it was on the CW network?? I never watched or cared to watch one minute as well as anyone I know showing any interest. The only time LIV entered my consciousness was when negative articles would pop up about PGA players commented on whether players should or should not be allowed in certain tourneys. Someone in the PGA (behind closed doors... Lindert, Rea, & other officers/board did you just sell out for multimillions? Did Monahan also gain a large chunk of cash?) made a boatload of money in this signing!! A sh&tload for this sudden change of direction. Greg, Phil and some Middle Eastern puppet master (Saudi Investment Fund) is laughing all the way to the bank, like they need more! And, that the PGA players say they learned about this signing just like all of us... social media and and a public release. Can't wait to see the fallout Tiger turned down 800 million |
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Post by beavaristotle on Jun 6, 2023 10:44:07 GMT -8
Don’t see how this is going to work. PGA chairman asked his players to remain loyal to the tour while the guys who defected got 100’s on millions of dollars. Now all is supposed to be forgotten and forgiven and everyone is back together. Some of the things that were said can’t be forgotten
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 6, 2023 11:05:57 GMT -8
Plenty of dirt and hypocrisy to go around. Sounds like a deal where everyone loses No one lost his job. They all will make more money than ever. That's losing? |
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Post by beavaristotle on Jun 6, 2023 14:08:08 GMT -8
The end game. The golfers are going to form a union that will run golf in the future. Players are ripe for this. The loyal PGA players left tons of money on the table and the turncoats that took LIV money are going to be ask to give some back. The players are golf, PGA needs them, TV ratings need them and the majors need them.
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Post by lebaneaver on Jun 6, 2023 15:43:16 GMT -8
Plenty of dirt and hypocrisy to go around. Sounds like a deal where everyone loses No one lost his job. They all will make more money than ever. That's losing? I agree with you, normally, HS. NOT this time. Those who remained loyal to the PGA, took a principled stand in one OR two ways; they couldn’t agree to take Saudi “blood money,” and/or they chose loyalty to the entity that made possible (aside from obvious talent) their OWN enrichment. The “players” tour boss just called them naive chumps…..AND……they not only weren’t at the table when the decisions were made….they found out about it on “social media.” That’s ahelluva “gee thanks, dummies,” from the guy charged with overseeing the entity they chose to support. I don’t feel TOO sorry for a group of very wealthy guys that play a game in beautiful parks every week……and, let’s be honest; the overwhelming majority of these guys grew up on, or close to…. country clubs the folks belonged to. Not all…but, most. They took an honorable stand, imo, and got thrown under a freight train. Money. That’s IT? That’s ALL? Just my take. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 6, 2023 16:14:27 GMT -8
No one lost his job. They all will make more money than ever. That's losing? I agree with you, normally, HS. NOT this time. Those who remained loyal to the PGA, took a principled stand in one OR two ways; they couldn’t agree to take Saudi “blood money,” and/or they chose loyalty to the entity that made possible (aside from obvious talent) their OWN enrichment. The “players” tour boss just called them naive chumps…..AND……they not only were at the table when the decisions were made….they found out about it on “social media.” That’s ahelluva “gee thanks, dummies,” from the guy charged with overseeing the entity they chose to support. I don’t feel TOO sorry for a group of very wealthy guys that play a game in beautiful parks every week……and, let’s be honest; the overwhelming majority of these guys grew up on, or close to…. country clubs the folks belonged to. Not all…but, most. They took an honorable stand, imo, and got thrown under a freight train. Money. That’s IT? That’s ALL? Just my take. Without knowing all the intricate details it's a weird situation. This just didn't happen overnight. The negotiations had to be lengthy. So, who knew? When? According to the PGA vets there was no warning or player involvement. Players should want Monahan gone if it was done without any input. From what I understand LIV golfers did not get their $ upfront. It was basically a lifetime contract with payouts. I assume each contract had some variations. So, in the negotiations how did these contracts/$ get handled? Did LIV golfers have input where PGA guys did not? Do they keep there $... all? Some? As for Monahan and the PGA they basically "win". In one quick move they now have infused billions of $, probably kept control of the new entity, and eliminated their competitor. That's their only selling points to calm the players... huge $$ infusion, no LIV. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 6, 2023 19:27:55 GMT -8
The players who stayed loyal to the PGA will get paid, but they learned a valuable lesson most of us who worked in the "real" world learned pretty quickly: management lies. All the time.
Again, nobody lost their job. It' not like some boss showed up at a Chevy factory and said, "We're shutting it down."
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