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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 5, 2023 14:44:14 GMT -8
Well, we plug Krieg into 1st Base. Find a new SS and new CF and it looks like a solid and good hitting team. Now the real problem is where is the Pitching? This was nowhere near the kind of Pitching we normal produced. Well see who moves on and who stays. Pretty sure Brown, Ferrer, Lattery, Sellers, and Boisvert are done. Of the guys still on the roster I think the ones that make the cut next year are. Kmatz (if healthy), Hunter (if healthy), Jimenez, Hutchenson, Larson, Mejia, Keijo, Lawson (if he stays), Thorsteinson (If he stays), Mundt?!?!? Guys on the bubble: Grewe and Quinn. Heres why I think there is a bubble despite losing 5 arms. Incoming class(Velos are mostly from October or earlier) - LHP Paul Wilson PG 10 probably not coming to campus RHP James DeCremer III PG 10 probably not coming to campus RHP Laif Palmer 6'6 210 with 94 FB Velo RHP Spencer Green 6'4 190 with 92 FB Velo RHP Matthew Morrell 6'3 190 with 92 FB Velo RHP Eric Segura 6'1 190 with 92 FB Velo RHP Dane Lais 6'4 210 with 93 FB velo RHP Drew Talavs 6'3 190 with 90 FB velo Add in some likely transfers and you have 5 slots for 5-10 new arms. |
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Post by beavaristotle on Jun 5, 2023 14:51:59 GMT -8
Seven full-time position players should return for us next season. We are hardly losing 90% of our firepower. * Travis Bazzana is not draft-eligible. His birthday is 8/28/02. Players in college must be 21 to be eligible for the draft, he will not be. * Mason Guerra is not draft-eligible. Coincidentally, his birthday is 8/28/02. * Gavin Turley is not draft-eligible. * Tanner Smith is not draft-eligible, born on 9/26/2002. * Brady Kasper is draft-eligible. This was also the first year he started regularly and the first year he had more than 34 at-bats. He'd be a fool not to return, and it's highly unlikely he'd be selected in a 20-round draft. * Mikey Kane is draft-eligible, but would be a fool to sign, he is not ready for pro ball, and probably won't be drafted anyway. * Kyle Dernedde is not ready for pro ball, and also won't be drafted anyway. That's the reality, and it most definitely does not suck. add Forrester to the return list. If his asking price is what I heard it was, he would have to be drafted middle 4th round. Do not see that, not much upside. |
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Post by Beavcat on Jun 5, 2023 15:07:17 GMT -8
The two years that Louisiana State eliminated Oregon State were 2012 and 2017. In both years, Oregon State hosted a Corvallis Regional and Super Regional in the year following and went to Omaha. In 2013, Oregon State was a foot away from getting into the winners' bracket. The Beavs came out of the losers' bracket and finished tied for third. In 2018, Oregon State won the whole damn thing, beating LSU in the Corvallis Regional on the way. Great season. Hopefully, a better season ahead. Thanks for all the stats, trivia and a little history along the way, Wilky. Well done! |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 5, 2023 15:10:13 GMT -8
Ahhhh... when the umpire excuse wears thin, let's create some new excuses to make Beaver Nation look silly. NIL is a fact of life, out if anyone's control. Because other schools have bigger "budgets" is no excuse. OSU has never and will never match budgets with the Jones'. It never effected the NC teams and is a lame loser excuse. This team is not, never was more than a top 32 type team. Inconsistent at best, and without looking at what the final stats will be, has to be one of the worst pitching staffs in memory. They went about as far as one could have expected. They blew the chance to be a regional host. They then sunk to be a lower #2 seed matched with a extremely talented team with a great history... hosting 27 regionals, winning 23 of them. LSU was obviously the more talented team. The Pac12 as a whole was not. Time to regroup as this program had its work cut out for it before next Spring. LSU was better, no question. This was not an Omaha team, as you, me and many, many, many others realized. Finishing in the top 32 is nothing to sneeze at. Budgets are one thing. They pay for coaching salaries, facilities, etc. "Budgets" didn't impact the championship teams because NIL did not exist and even teams with much bigger budgets could not simply buy players, and larger budgets could be offset to some degree by coaching. NIL is different. It is not part of what is considered a traditional budget. NIL enables you to simply buy talent. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive. And the more great players you can buy, the better chance you have of winning. That's what the bigger programs are doing. And it does create an uneven playing field, just as the Yankees paying $300-$400 million in salaries gives them an advantage over the cheaper Pirates and A's (yes, now the Rays are an exception. Until they have to pay their best players, they won't, and they will leave). Assuming Stanford wins tonight, the Pac-12 will finish the regional round at 10-7 (.588), with 2 of 5 (40%) possible championships. That's not awful, considering four of our teams had to travel at least two time zones away, the league played 12 of 17 games (71%) of its tournament games on the road and the Pac-12 tournament enabled a bad team (Arizona) to make the field, when it should not have, and go 0-2 as expected. |
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Post by avidbeaver on Jun 5, 2023 15:11:57 GMT -8
Well, we plug Krieg into 1st Base. Find a new SS and new CF and it looks like a solid and good hitting team. Now the real problem is where is the Pitching? This was nowhere near the kind of Pitching we normal produced. Well see who moves on and who stays. Pretty sure Brown, Ferrer, Lattery, Sellers, and Boisvert are done. Of the guys still on the roster I think the ones that make the cut next year are. Kmatz (if healthy), Hunter (if healthy), Jimenez, Hutchenson, Larson, Mejia, Keijo, Lawson (if he stays), Thorsteinson (If he stays), Mundt?!?!? Guys on the bubble: Grewe and Quinn. Heres why I think there is a bubble despite losing 5 arms. Incoming class(Velos are mostly from October or earlier) - LHP Paul Wilson PG 10 probably not coming to campus RHP James DeCremer III PG 10 probably not coming to campus RHP Laif Palmer 6'6 210 with 94 FB Velo RHP Spencer Green 6'4 190 with 92 FB Velo RHP Matthew Morrell 6'3 190 with 92 FB Velo RHP Eric Segura 6'1 190 with 92 FB Velo RHP Dane Lais 6'4 210 with 93 FB velo RHP Drew Talavs 6'3 190 with 90 FB velo Add in some likely transfers and you have 5 slots for 5-10 new arms. Hutchenson better improve a lot. His ball has very little if at all up and down movement. His ball hangs a lot and it showed in the pac 12 tourney and this weekend. He got hammered pretty good |
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Post by qbeaver on Jun 5, 2023 15:17:18 GMT -8
Seven full-time position players should return for us next season. We are hardly losing 90% of our firepower. * Travis Bazzana is not draft-eligible. His birthday is 8/28/02. Players in college must be 21 to be eligible for the draft, he will not be. * Mason Guerra is not draft-eligible. Coincidentally, his birthday is 8/28/02. * Gavin Turley is not draft-eligible. * Tanner Smith is not draft-eligible, born on 9/26/2002. * Brady Kasper is draft-eligible. This was also the first year he started regularly and the first year he had more than 34 at-bats. He'd be a fool not to return, and it's highly unlikely he'd be selected in a 20-round draft. * Mikey Kane is draft-eligible, but would be a fool to sign, he is not ready for pro ball, and probably won't be drafted anyway. * Kyle Dernedde is not ready for pro ball, and also won't be drafted anyway. That's the reality, and it most definitely does not suck. add Forrester to the return list. If his asking price is what I heard it was, he would have to be drafted middle 4th round. Do not see that, not much upside. I expect Grieg to start at 1b next year. Best arm on the team according to Darwin. |
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Post by clydebeav on Jun 5, 2023 15:25:42 GMT -8
Seven full-time position players should return for us next season. We are hardly losing 90% of our firepower. * Travis Bazzana is not draft-eligible. His birthday is 8/28/02. Players in college must be 21 to be eligible for the draft, he will not be. * Mason Guerra is not draft-eligible. Coincidentally, his birthday is 8/28/02. * Gavin Turley is not draft-eligible. * Tanner Smith is not draft-eligible, born on 9/26/2002. * Brady Kasper is draft-eligible. This was also the first year he started regularly and the first year he had more than 34 at-bats. He'd be a fool not to return, and it's highly unlikely he'd be selected in a 20-round draft. * Mikey Kane is draft-eligible, but would be a fool to sign, he is not ready for pro ball, and probably won't be drafted anyway. * Kyle Dernedde is not ready for pro ball, and also won't be drafted anyway. That's the reality, and it most definitely does not suck. add Forrester to the return list. If his asking price is what I heard it was, he would have to be drafted middle 4th round. Do not see that, not much upside. Garret Forrester Chose Oregon State because “it’s been my dream school since I was nine, and family and friends have gone to school there.” Maybe this is a guy who wants another year at his dream school, especially considering the talent coming back and an opportunity to compete for a conference championship and run to Omaha. Hopefully he makes that decision and helps persuade others to do the same. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jun 5, 2023 15:28:01 GMT -8
add Forrester to the return list. If his asking price is what I heard it was, he would have to be drafted middle 4th round. Do not see that, not much upside. I expect Grieg to start at 1b next year. Best arm on the team according to Darwin. huh, I figured Guerra as a shoe in for first base. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 5, 2023 15:29:29 GMT -8
Well we did outscore our opponents in this regional 33-22.
So there’s that.
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Post by clydebeav on Jun 5, 2023 15:33:56 GMT -8
Well we did outscore our opponents in this regional 33-22. So there’s that. Yeah. Should have just scored 3 runs in game 1 and saved those other 15 runs for the LSU games. Poor planning. |
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Post by green85 on Jun 5, 2023 15:34:47 GMT -8
Overall, pretty solid year, considering it was sort of a transition/rebuild year. Four costly injuries definitely didn't help. The new guys we've got coming in should be helpful. Go Beavs. From an outsider one of the characteristics of the team as the season went along was improvement over the start of the year. At one point in the early season, some folks were questioning much about the team and coaches. But a 2nd place regular season finish in the Pac12 demonstrates that coaches and players at OSU worked to play better. I admire Coach MC for how the team grew. YOUNG players don't always deliver consistency, but you could see the effort and talent in many games during the regular season. No doubt OSU will be a top tier Pac12 team in 2024. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 5, 2023 15:36:08 GMT -8
Well see who moves on and who stays. Pretty sure Brown, Ferrer, Lattery, Sellers, and Boisvert are done. Of the guys still on the roster I think the ones that make the cut next year are. Kmatz (if healthy), Hunter (if healthy), Jimenez, Hutchenson, Larson, Mejia, Keijo, Lawson (if he stays), Thorsteinson (If he stays), Mundt?!?!? Guys on the bubble: Grewe and Quinn. Heres why I think there is a bubble despite losing 5 arms. Incoming class(Velos are mostly from October or earlier) - LHP Paul Wilson PG 10 probably not coming to campus RHP James DeCremer III PG 10 probably not coming to campus RHP Laif Palmer 6'6 210 with 94 FB Velo RHP Spencer Green 6'4 190 with 92 FB Velo RHP Matthew Morrell 6'3 190 with 92 FB Velo RHP Eric Segura 6'1 190 with 92 FB Velo RHP Dane Lais 6'4 210 with 93 FB velo RHP Drew Talavs 6'3 190 with 90 FB velo Add in some likely transfers and you have 5 slots for 5-10 new arms. Hutchenson better improve a lot. His ball doesn't have very little if at all up and down movement. His ball hangs a lot and it showed in the pac 12 tourney and this weekend. He got hammered pretty good Pretty hard on a true freshman. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 5, 2023 15:39:34 GMT -8
add Forrester to the return list. If his asking price is what I heard it was, he would have to be drafted middle 4th round. Do not see that, not much upside. I expect Grieg to start at 1b next year. Best arm on the team according to Darwin. Why does 1b need a strong arm? Not that I think you're wrong about where he might play. We've seen him take a stab at 1b this year. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jun 5, 2023 15:47:11 GMT -8
Ahhhh... when the umpire excuse wears thin, let's create some new excuses to make Beaver Nation look silly. NIL is a fact of life, out if anyone's control. Because other schools have bigger "budgets" is no excuse. OSU has never and will never match budgets with the Jones'. It never effected the NC teams and is a lame loser excuse. This team is not, never was more than a top 32 type team. Inconsistent at best, and without looking at what the final stats will be, has to be one of the worst pitching staffs in memory. They went about as far as one could have expected. They blew the chance to be a regional host. They then sunk to be a lower #2 seed matched with a extremely talented team with a great history... hosting 27 regionals, winning 23 of them. LSU was obviously the more talented team. The Pac12 as a whole was not. Time to regroup as this program had its work cut out for it before next Spring. bwhahahaaha, we have found the only college sports fan in America that thinks nil doesn't matter, just roll up your sleeves and work harder dammit. I mean the Dodgers have a bigger budget then the Oakland A's and that budget never shows up on the field, right? If we don't compete in the NIL marketplace we won't be competitive. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 5, 2023 15:48:49 GMT -8
Another thing NIL has done, for the richer teams, is make the 11.7 scholarship limit moot.
You think a guy like Paul Skanes is going to worry that he only has a 1/4 scholarship at LSU, if he's getting $10K a month in NIL money? The richer programs will essentially be able to give their top 20-25 players a total full ride, complementing a 1/2 or 1/3 scholarship with NIL money.
Angel Reese expects to make more than $300K this year. Her scholarship is irrelevant. You don't think HVL saw how much Reese was making when choosing where she would go?
It's Jerry McGuire/All the President's Men time. "Show me the money!" and "Follow the money."
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