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Post by spudbeaver on May 30, 2023 19:54:57 GMT -8
Class of 2024? What am I missing? Maybe you are projecting that same time a year, 2 years into the future? Like he topped out in his Junior year? Nonsense, although it can happen. My son not only got much faster from his Jr to Sr year in HS, he dropped .34 in the 100 his first 2 years of college! Btw, this kid has a faster HS time than my son did, and he qualified for the P12 Championships 2/3 years. But even if this kid has topped out (doubtful), if that is a FAT time it’s better than most receivers in the PAC. Honestly spud I'm shocked you have a kid that fast?!?! I thought all your mentions of your athletic past were satirical! Or did you just marry into good genes? Assuming he was sub 11 sprinter a 0.34 improvement is really good. Must have been fun to watch him! Must be just as much fun to watch the grandkids! Yes, sub 11. Believe me, it’s a mystery to ALL of my HS friends as well! Ha ha. They enjoy giving me a hard time. All in good fun. I did marry a swimmer however, and my daughter is going to swim for a MWC school! Fun! Middle daughter is a swimmer/thrower, but not at the P12 level, but she’s really awesome in her own right! Thanks! |
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Post by spudbeaver on May 30, 2023 20:17:53 GMT -8
I didn’t mean to hi-Jack this thread talking about my kids. I think this recruit is something to celebrate, not denegrate. Welcome kid!!
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Post by rafer on May 31, 2023 18:21:43 GMT -8
Is it just me or does he look bigger than all the kids he outruns? Three star nothing much their not lighting fast 10.8 isn’t that fast why aren’t we recruiting height with the qbs we have now Actually according to what I've read, 1 in 500,000+ can run 10.8 seconds. I'm thinking that's reasonably fast. My neighbors son ran a 10.8 that I recall, sub 4.4 40s occasionally. And that was dam fast IMO. Running a 10.7, 10.8, even 11.0 is moving just fine, go to a high school meet and watch a 11.0 kid and see who beats him/her, answer, NOT MANY.. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 31, 2023 18:37:13 GMT -8
Three star nothing much their not lighting fast 10.8 isn’t that fast why aren’t we recruiting height with the qbs we have now Actually according to what I've read, 1 in 500,000+ can run 10.8 seconds. I'm thinking that's reasonably fast. My neighbors son ran a 10.8 that I recall, sub 4.4 40s occasionally. And that was dam fast IMO. Running a 10.7, 10.8, even 11.0 is moving just fine, go to a high school meet and watch a 11.0 kid and see who beats him/her, answer, NOT MANY.. Seems to me Marcus Wheaton was considered to be not all that slow...PR 100m as a high school senior 10.81. Brandin Cooks ran a PR of 10.76, a bit faster than our latest recruit, at the same age... he ended up with one of the top NFL combine 40 times when he entered the draft. Kids who aren't early peakers often aren't a finished product in their junior years. |
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Post by bvrbred on Jun 1, 2023 7:33:35 GMT -8
Three star nothing much their not lighting fast 10.8 isn’t that fast why aren’t we recruiting height with the qbs we have now There is four offers to guys that are 6'2+, the shortest is 5'10, three are 5'11 and 6 are 6'0. Tall athletic receivers are one of the hottest recruits in football. Since Smith has arrived we have recruited Trevor Pope (6-1), Jimmy Valsin (6-3), and Sam Mason Jr (6-2). We have transferred in Harrison (6-2), Makita Tongue (6-2), and John Dunmore (6-2). Notice that Harrison is the only one to be a regular starter so far. Loose count of offers over 6' by year (does not count those listed as athletes. 2019 - 13 2020 - 12 2021 - 13 2022 - 11 2023 - 18 As you can see the majority of our WR offers are for tall guys, they are hard to land. Most of our tall wideouts are walk ons. Noga (6-2), Munyagi (6-2), Walker (6-2) and Boschma (6-2). Harrison was a 4 star who was 6'2". On paper, he should have been great. Except he wasn't. Made some good plays but he was inconsistent. Trevon Bradford (mentioned in another post as similar to Saldate for size and speed) was probably a low 3 star coming out of high school. His only other Power 5 offer was from WSU. He was also about 5'11" coming out of HS, in contrast to Harrison's 6'2". Nonetheless he was better than Harrison for us. The year he played alongside Harrison, Bradford had more catches, more yds, and more yds/catch. IMO we may have wasted too many schollies chasing tall wideouts. As mentioned, Harrison is the only one to start aside from Isaiah Hodgins, unless you want to go back to Jordan Villamin and he wasn't much. Going the walk on route, and hoping one of them pans out, may be a better use of schollies. We seem to have better luck landing pass catching tight ends. Velling will be very good. If the transfer from Cal pans out we will have two big pass catching targets. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 1, 2023 8:44:43 GMT -8
There is four offers to guys that are 6'2+, the shortest is 5'10, three are 5'11 and 6 are 6'0. Tall athletic receivers are one of the hottest recruits in football. Since Smith has arrived we have recruited Trevor Pope (6-1), Jimmy Valsin (6-3), and Sam Mason Jr (6-2). We have transferred in Harrison (6-2), Makita Tongue (6-2), and John Dunmore (6-2). Notice that Harrison is the only one to be a regular starter so far. Loose count of offers over 6' by year (does not count those listed as athletes. 2019 - 13 2020 - 12 2021 - 13 2022 - 11 2023 - 18 As you can see the majority of our WR offers are for tall guys, they are hard to land. Most of our tall wideouts are walk ons. Noga (6-2), Munyagi (6-2), Walker (6-2) and Boschma (6-2). Harrison was a 4 star who was 6'2". On paper, he should have been great. Except he wasn't. Made some good plays but he was inconsistent. Trevon Bradford (mentioned in another post as similar to Saldate for size and speed) was probably a low 3 star coming out of high school. His only other Power 5 offer was from WSU. He was also about 5'11" coming out of HS, in contrast to Harrison's 6'2". Nonetheless he was better than Harrison for us. The year he played alongside Harrison, Bradford had more catches, more yds, and more yds/catch. IMO we may have wasted too many schollies chasing tall wideouts. As mentioned, Harrison is the only one to start aside from Isaiah Hodgins, unless you want to go back to Jordan Villamin and he wasn't much. Going the walk on route, and hoping one of them pans out, may be a better use of schollies. We seem to have better luck landing pass catching tight ends. Velling will be very good. If the transfer from Cal pans out we will have two big pass catching targets. I agree with chasing size at TE and speed/skills at wideout. Frankly at the college level a tall guy can have just as much trouble getting open as a small guy. There is a limit to that (Champ was great but he had to be 5 yards ahead for the angle on a deep ball!). Unless the tall guy is special its really just a jump ball advantage and advantage on box out routes. If you are boxing out you might aswell toss it to a tightend that can push around anyone in the secondary. I think the staff has the right idea loading up with guys who can haul the ball in and make something happen after. We have quite a few electric guys on the team (Gould, Bolden and Irish) and I expect thats just going to get better as recruiting continues to improve. Zach Card is very exciting to me so far. Guy has shown he can catch and he ran a 10.47 100 m and 21.68 200m as a junior. That puts him in the top 100 high schoolers and top 30 juniors in 2022. I don't mind throwing darts at the high 3 and 4 star tall guys, who knows if we land one. Having another Hodgins around will never be bad. |
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