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Post by beavaristotle on May 25, 2023 13:12:41 GMT -8
I'm probably reading way too much into it, but Parker did not sound his usual distraught self after this one. Even sounded rather upbeat. That tells me he's been told by the coaches (as I said earlier) that we are locked in as a host, or that there was no chance we'd host, no matter what happened at the tournament. So, no need to burn Sellers or Kmatz on 100-degree days in games that are essentially meaningless. I'm thinking we've been told we are not hosting, so he's saving arms for the regional. my thoughts exactly, I thought Mitch managed these games like he already knew we weren’t going to host. Only excuse I can think of for some of the peculiar moves and decisions |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 25, 2023 13:12:49 GMT -8
I'm probably reading way too much into it, but Parker did not sound his usual distraught self after this one. Even sounded rather upbeat. That tells me he's been told by the coaches (as I said earlier) that we are locked in as a host, or that there was no chance we'd host, no matter what happened at the tournament. So, no need to burn Sellers or Kmatz on 100-degree days in games that are essentially meaningless. I'm thinking we've been told we are not hosting, so he's saving arms for the regional. Parker was hinting about some things when he called in to the Joe Beaver show yesterday, but he wasn't going to go into detail. There's definitely something up. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 25, 2023 14:07:41 GMT -8
I don't think it could be "we are locked in as a host.". More likely we are locked in as a 2 seed.
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Post by chicagobeav on May 25, 2023 14:44:27 GMT -8
Kinda stupid speculation, Beavers wanted to win, yes there was a couple of starters that did not play- but we played the majority of our available relievers- at the end of the day our pitching was not up to the task - we had opportunities to score more and make some defensive plays to limit damage- but did not - kick the tournament to the curb and get ready to go somewhere in the real tournament.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 25, 2023 15:14:30 GMT -8
Kinda stupid speculation, Beavers wanted to win, yes there was a couple of starters that did not play- but we played the majority of our available relievers- at the end of the day our pitching was not up to the task - we had opportunities to score more and make some defensive plays to limit damage- but did not - kick the tournament to the curb and get ready to go somewhere in the real tournament. Our season-long, top-2 starters did not pitch an inning. Make of it what you will. |
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Post by jimbeav on May 25, 2023 16:20:19 GMT -8
At the very least, I can see our coaches taking a different approach to the conference tourney after our experience last year. We did our damndest to win that thing last year, spent a bunch of pitching to do it, and it didn't matter in the least. Wouldn't be surprised if we're seeing the results of a learned lesson last year...
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Post by irimi on May 25, 2023 16:23:58 GMT -8
Kinda stupid speculation, Beavers wanted to win, yes there was a couple of starters that did not play- but we played the majority of our available relievers- at the end of the day our pitching was not up to the task - we had opportunities to score more and make some defensive plays to limit damage- but did not - kick the tournament to the curb and get ready to go somewhere in the real tournament. The way I see it, all of our young pitchers got an inning or two in a high pressure game. You can bank that for the future. That kind of experience will pay off in the long run. I believe that the outcome of the first game was key. If we had won, we might have seen a different approach to today's game. But who knows? I, for one, am not crying over today's results. It sucks to lose, but not today. |
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Post by irimi on May 25, 2023 16:26:28 GMT -8
At the very least, I can see our coaches taking a different approach to the conference tourney after our experience last year. We did our damndest to win that thing last year, spent a bunch of pitching to do it, and it didn't matter in the least. Wouldn't be surprised if we're seeing the results of a learned lesson last year... It was quite a lesson last year. And I was afraid we were on repeat seeing all the pitchers get used yesterday and today, but then I realized that Mitch is just giving them some work and exposure to hostile tournament conditions. |
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Post by beavermd on May 25, 2023 16:33:42 GMT -8
I'm probably reading way too much into it, but Parker did not sound his usual distraught self after this one. Even sounded rather upbeat. That tells me he's been told by the coaches (as I said earlier) that we are locked in as a host, or that there was no chance we'd host, no matter what happened at the tournament. So, no need to burn Sellers or Kmatz on 100-degree days in games that are essentially meaningless. I'm thinking we've been told we are not hosting, so he's saving arms for the regional. Comments from Canham in the post game indicated that Kmatz is hurt and is TBD for next week. And they weren’t going to pitch Sellers today on 5 days rest. |
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Post by easyheat on May 25, 2023 16:57:30 GMT -8
If we were notified that we wouldn't be hosting, would that not presume the selection committee had notified teams days in advance of their meeting and vote casting? The Beavs went to Scottsdale with an opportunity to win the Conference Tournament and a sure hosting call . . . we decided that wasn't important?
That doesn't sound very Kosher.
Kmatz last pitched on Friday, May 19th and Sellers on Saturday, May 20th. The Regionals don't begin until Friday, June 2nd. They needed 14 days of rest? Rather than rest, rust may be the operative word here.
To my point, yesterday we threw 5 guys against Arizona and today 6 more guys against ASU - A.J. Lattery and Victor Quinn were the only ones to come out of battle relatively unscathed.
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Post by ricke71 on May 25, 2023 17:01:02 GMT -8
I'm probably reading way too much into it, but Parker did not sound his usual distraught self after this one. Even sounded rather upbeat. That tells me he's been told by the coaches (as I said earlier) that we are locked in as a host, or that there was no chance we'd host, no matter what happened at the tournament. So, no need to burn Sellers or Kmatz on 100-degree days in games that are essentially meaningless. I'm thinking we've been told we are not hosting, so he's saving arms for the regional. Comments from Canham in the post game indicated that Kmatz is hurt and is TBD for next week. And they weren’t going to pitch Sellers today on 5 days rest. In his last start, 6 days ago, Kmatz was less than would expected of a #2 starter vs. a 200 RPI team (Western Carolina): 5 ip / 74 pitches / 5 ER / only 6 H, but 3 HR & 4 BB / 1 SO |
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Post by rafer on May 25, 2023 17:16:26 GMT -8
I'm probably reading way too much into it, but Parker did not sound his usual distraught self after this one. Even sounded rather upbeat. That tells me he's been told by the coaches (as I said earlier) that we are locked in as a host, or that there was no chance we'd host, no matter what happened at the tournament. So, no need to burn Sellers or Kmatz on 100-degree days in games that are essentially meaningless. I'm thinking we've been told we are not hosting, so he's saving arms for the regional. Comments from Canham in the post game indicated that Kmatz is hurt and is TBD for next week. And they weren’t going to pitch Sellers today on 5 days rest. [br Parker is resigned to the Beavs traveling and returning home. This pitching staff is not good enough to withstand a week of good competition. Frankly, I don't see how we won as many games as we did. This week has shown exactly where we are, and that's decent hit, no pitch. Zero wins in the tournament sealed our fate as an "also played" team, and the Arizona tribes basically owned the Beavs start to finish. Next year better? IF we find some pitchers cause what we have isn't going to get us there. Others will holler and disagree, so be it. |
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Post by avidbeaver on May 25, 2023 19:53:25 GMT -8
Cumulative stats for pitchers this year. I don't know if it includes the last two games. The ERA is 4.65 and the WHIP is 1.38 . The ERA is nothing to be proud of and the lowest era is Boisvert. His is 3.07 but that is only 14.2 innings. Sellers has an era of 5.13 and Kmatz has an era of 4.71 . Kmatz whip is 1.35 and Sellers whip is 1.49 Not exactly stellar numbers from the 1 and 2 starters.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 25, 2023 20:04:06 GMT -8
If we were notified that we wouldn't be hosting, would that not presume the selection committee had notified teams days in advance of their meeting and vote casting? The Beavs went to Scottsdale with an opportunity to win the Conference Tournament and a sure hosting call . . . we decided that wasn't important? That doesn't sound very Kosher. Kmatz last pitched on Friday, May 19th and Sellers on Saturday, May 20th. The Regionals don't begin until Friday, June 2nd. They needed 14 days of rest? Rather than rest, rust may be the operative word here. To my point, yesterday we threw 5 guys against Arizona and today 6 more guys against ASU - A.J. Lattery and Victor Quinn were the only ones to come out of battle relatively unscathed. There's official notification, and back-channel notification, through members of the SC and the regional advisors. I would expect everyone who will be announced as a regional host on Sunday pretty much already knows it. We were never assured of hosting. Our RPI is not in the top 30 and our SOS is not especially strong. If Kmatz is indeed dinged, then yes, 14 days of rest will most certainly help. And more time off may help Seller rediscover the form he showed in midseason, when he was pretty effective. Bullpen sessions can be very helpful. |
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Post by easyheat on May 25, 2023 22:09:23 GMT -8
Wow! I'm having a difficult time processing that. If teams know before hand, that could mean Stanford, OSU, Oregon and Washington might all be throwing their back-bench during this tournament while those teams trying to make the field of 64 are sending out their best pitchers. What does say about the tournament and any notion that it's meaniful?
What you are suggesting is that these are really just practice games for those that have been informed of their status in advance of the Regionals.
How naive I am, thinking my Beavs might be going down to Scottsdale to take a shot at Stanford, win the PAC-12 Tournament, earn a host selection and advance in the polls.
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