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Post by chinmusic on May 4, 2023 21:24:05 GMT -8
Paul Wilson - Lakeridge HS 91-94, touched 96.
Dane Lais - Oregon City HS 91-92, touched 93
Drew Talavs - West Linn HS 90-91, touched 92
Chase Reynolds - LBCC 91, touched 92
* Easton Corey from Pendleton HS is also a member of the 90 mph club.
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Post by chinmusic on May 8, 2023 22:51:10 GMT -8
Paul Wilson - Lakeridge HS 91-94, touched 96. Dane Lais - Oregon City HS 91-92, touched 93 Drew Talavs - West Linn HS 90-91, touched 92 Chase Reynolds - LBCC 91, touched 92 * Easton Corey from Pendleton HS is also a member of the 90 mph club. More heat: Eric Segura - Soledad HS 91-93 touches 94 Laif Palmer - Golden HS 91-93 touches 95 James DeCremer - Brophy Prep HS 92-94 touched 96 Matt Morrell - Cypress HS 90-91 touches 92 *** Palmer's fastball has recorded a 2,618 rpm spin rate. An MLB metric. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 10, 2023 6:38:27 GMT -8
Paul Wilson - Lakeridge HS 91-94, touched 96. Dane Lais - Oregon City HS 91-92, touched 93 Drew Talavs - West Linn HS 90-91, touched 92 Chase Reynolds - LBCC 91, touched 92 * Easton Corey from Pendleton HS is also a member of the 90 mph club. More heat: Eric Segura - Soledad HS 91-93 touches 94 Laif Palmer - Golden HS 91-93 touches 95 James DeCremer - Brophy Prep HS 92-94 touched 96 Matt Morrell - Cypress HS 90-91 touches 92 *** Palmer's fastball has recorded a 2,618 rpm spin rate. An MLB metric. Hey Chin why does spin rate matter on a fast ball? Does that keep the trajectory straighter or even rise? Harder for batters to read what's coming? |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 10, 2023 9:36:16 GMT -8
More heat: Eric Segura - Soledad HS 91-93 touches 94 Laif Palmer - Golden HS 91-93 touches 95 James DeCremer - Brophy Prep HS 92-94 touched 96 Matt Morrell - Cypress HS 90-91 touches 92 *** Palmer's fastball has recorded a 2,618 rpm spin rate. An MLB metric. Hey Chin why does spin rate matter on a fast ball? Does that keep the trajectory straighter or even rise? Harder for batters to read what's coming? It's about movement. Straight 95 is much more hittable than 95 with some run or tail to it. Higher spin = more run (movement) |
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Post by rgeorge on May 10, 2023 11:19:41 GMT -8
Add.... not just spin rate to create "run"... it involves release point/angle.
Throw over the top with a 12/6 spin... very little "run" but late life. But, say you have the same spin rate at a ¾ arm angle you'll get the run.
Different finger "pressures" result in different aspects. Most pitchers who have a significant run have not only a great spin rate but the ability to control index pressure.
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Post by Judge Smails on May 10, 2023 12:34:18 GMT -8
Add.... not just spin rate to create "run"... it involves release point/angle. Throw over the top with a 12/6 spin... very little "run" but late life. But, say you have the same spin rate at a ¾ arm angle you'll get the run. Different finger "pressures" result in different aspects. Most pitchers who have a significant run have not only a great spin rate but the ability to control index pressure. True. Just trying to simplify things because there are very few pitchers that throw over the top anymore. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 10, 2023 12:44:00 GMT -8
Add.... not just spin rate to create "run"... it involves release point/angle. Throw over the top with a 12/6 spin... very little "run" but late life. But, say you have the same spin rate at a ¾ arm angle you'll get the run. Different finger "pressures" result in different aspects. Most pitchers who have a significant run have not only a great spin rate but the ability to control index pressure. True. Just trying to simplify things because there are very few pitchers that throw over the top anymore. True, and most, even good HS kids, don't throw from one arm slot. Kids can learn quickly playing around with fingerings/grip and slot how they are most effective. What is truly frustrating is seeing that velocity/power pitches are still "king" to many instructors. If kids develop 3-4 effective pitches that they can throw in any count they'll be very good post HS. Obviously, those that have the natural pop are gifted. But, it is amazing that many elite level recruits don't have a better tool bag before entering college. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 10, 2023 12:54:27 GMT -8
True. Just trying to simplify things because there are very few pitchers that throw over the top anymore. True, and most, even good HS kids, don't throw from one arm slot. Kids can learn quickly playing around with fingerings/grip and slot how they are most effective. What is truly frustrating is seeing that velocity/power pitches are still "king" to many instructors. If kids develop 3-4 effective pitches that they can throw in any count they'll be very good post HS. Obviously, those that have the natural pop are gifted. But, it is amazing that many elite level recruits don't have a better tool bag before entering college. HS kids can get in trouble playing around with too many slots. |
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Post by easyheat on May 13, 2023 16:46:45 GMT -8
True stuff.
Components of any pitch are grip (finger array and seam position), pressure points (fingers and thumb), hand position at release point, arm slot, wrist snap if any and velocity.
"The harder you throw it, the more you can spin it"
High velo + high RPMs usually = Quality movement
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Post by rgeorge on May 13, 2023 17:29:45 GMT -8
True stuff. Components of any pitch are grip (finger array and seam position), pressure points (fingers and thumb), hand position at release point, arm slot, wrist snap if any and velocity. "The harder you throw it, the more you can spin it" High velo + high RPMs usually = Quality movement Exception... a quality circle change. Having guys change grip position on the ball can create vertical action with horizontal movement in both directions depending on the placement. Arm action is as FB but grip doesn't allow velo. Deadly pitch as you can use it to move to both sides of the plate. Most guys only throw one change... a slight variation can increase the arsenal. |
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