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Post by blodgettbeaver on Apr 21, 2023 10:51:57 GMT -8
Kind of interesting stats since 2000 per Conference:  |
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Post by cake on Apr 21, 2023 12:20:19 GMT -8
The good news is that the committee doesn't care about RPI that much for Pac-12 teams, probably because of some of the issues with it that are cited here. If you win 15 or less games in the Pac-12, you don't get into the tourney. If you win 17 or more conference games, you get in every time. Win 16 and your RPI matters and needs to be better than 45. No exceptions to this rule since we became the Pac-12 and went to 30 conference games. But the recipe for all Pac-12 teams is pretty simple in my opinion: take care of business, get to 17 conference wins, and don't worry too much about RPI. I agree.
I decided to take a little deeper look at that 16/17 win rule. Pretty accurate. Since the Pac went to 30 games, 18 was left out once, but that was ASU in 2012 when they were ineligible.
From 2013 to 2016, 16 win teams got in 2 times and were left out 4 times, including us in 2016.
From 2017 to now, 5 have gotten in, 1 was left out.That was Cal in 2018.
So, maybe it's trending up to where it's got to be a really, really bad RPI number to not get in with 16 wins. We finished 2016 ranked 46th in RPI, but I think Utah winning the Pac is really what kept us at 4 teams. In 2018, Cal finished with an RPI of 72. So, that'll keep you out.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 21, 2023 12:54:36 GMT -8
The good news is that the committee doesn't care about RPI that much for Pac-12 teams, probably because of some of the issues with it that are cited here. If you win 15 or less games in the Pac-12, you don't get into the tourney. If you win 17 or more conference games, you get in every time. Win 16 and your RPI matters and needs to be better than 45. No exceptions to this rule since we became the Pac-12 and went to 30 conference games. But the recipe for all Pac-12 teams is pretty simple in my opinion: take care of business, get to 17 conference wins, and don't worry too much about RPI. I agree.
I decided to take a little deeper look at that 16/17 win rule. Pretty accurate. Since the Pac went to 30 games, 18 was left out once, but that was ASU in 2012 when they were ineligible.
From 2013 to 2016, 16 win teams got in 2 times and were left out 4 times, including us in 2016.
From 2017 to now, 5 have gotten in, 1 was left out. That was Cal in 2018.
So, maybe it's trending up to where it's got to be a really, really bad RPI number to not get in with 16 wins. We finished 2016 ranked 46th in RPI, but I think Utah winning the Pac is really what kept us at 4 teams. In 2018, Cal finished with an RPI of 72. So, that'll keep you out. Oregon State's selection day RPI was 44 in 2016. 46th was Oregon State's final RPI after Coastal Carolina won the Championship. There is no good reason why Oregon State was kept out of the 2016 Tournament. I believe that the hand-to-God real reason is that the Committee had made up its mind heading into the final couple of days and did not actually figure out, if their initial thinking was correct on Selection Day. Oregon State was sitting at 13-14 in conference and 52nd in RPI heading into the final weekend. The Beavs were really hurt by a lack of Conference Tournament. |
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