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Post by beaveragain on Apr 12, 2023 16:21:22 GMT -8
Troll. You could say the exact same thing for Keven Abel and his arm. m So, Jelena got us a National Championship? Who knew? So unless we get a national championship in their sport all athletes should give us a refund on their scholarships? Just want to make sure I understand your point of view.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 12, 2023 16:43:58 GMT -8
m So, Jelena got us a National Championship? Who knew? So unless we get a national championship in their sport all athletes should give us a refund on their scholarships? Just want to make sure I understand your point of view. Not what I said. But, the comparison was stupid.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 12, 2023 17:33:39 GMT -8
Troll. You could say the exact same thing for Keven Abel and his arm. m So, Jelena got us a National Championship? Who knew? The original poster asininely and offensively postulates “OSU gave her more than Jelena gave OSU!” We should be more intelligent than that. Jelena owes OSU nothing. We are in HER debt. And W/L and trophies are not a part of that equation.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 12, 2023 18:39:17 GMT -8
m So, Jelena got us a National Championship? Who knew? The original poster asininely and offensively postulates “OSU gave her more than Jelena gave OSU!” We should be more intelligent than that. Jelena owes OSU nothing. We are in HER debt. And W/L and trophies are not a part of that equation. With you for part. But "we" certainly aren't in debt to a student athlete for attending OSU. That's as asinine as the OP.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 12, 2023 18:55:46 GMT -8
The original poster asininely and offensively postulates “OSU gave her more than Jelena gave OSU!” We should be more intelligent than that. Jelena owes OSU nothing. We are in HER debt. And W/L and trophies are not a part of that equation. With you for part. But "we" certainly aren't in debt to a student athlete for attending OSU. That's as asinine as the OP. As far as who's "done more" for OSU athletics, fans who merely give money (disposable income) or attention are surely in in debt to those who commit blood, sweat and tears (not to mention surgery and rehab) to compete for OSU. Without them, OSU athletics does not exist. Sorry if you think that's asinine. It's not in my book.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 12, 2023 19:03:17 GMT -8
With you for part. But "we" certainly aren't in debt to a student athlete for attending OSU. That's as asinine as the OP. As far as who's "done more" for OSU athletics, fans who merely give money or attention are surely in in debt to those who commit blood, sweat and tears (not to mention surgery and rehab) to compete for OSU. Without them, OSU athletics does not exist. Sorry if you think that's asinine. It's not in my book. It's not debt. They come of their own volition. They get plenty of perks including a opportunity for a life changing experience and education.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 12, 2023 21:08:55 GMT -8
As far as who's "done more" for OSU athletics, fans who merely give money (disposable income) or attention are surely in in debt to those who commit blood, sweat and tears (not to mention surgery and rehab) to compete for OSU. Without them, OSU athletics does not exist. Sorry if you think that's asinine. It's not in my book. Nor does OSU athletics exist without us, the fans (donors), so how about we just call it a wash and lose the dramatics? You do whatever you want. My comments were prompted by a silly post disparaging Jelena’s OSU career. I stated my disagreement and my reasons. We can and do have games w/o fans. Happens all the time. OSU golf, Cross Country and Rowing typically compete for tiny numbers of OSU spectators, sometimes none.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 13, 2023 0:34:48 GMT -8
Nor does OSU athletics exist without us, the fans (donors), so how about we just call it a wash and lose the dramatics? You do whatever you want. My comments were prompted by a silly post disparaging Jelena’s OSU career. I stated my disagreement and my reasons. We can and do have games w/o fans. Happens all the time. OSU golf, Cross Country and Rowing typically compete for tiny numbers of OSU spectators, sometimes none. Then defend her career vs some lame bit of drama. The sports you list are supported how? You guessed it... by the sports that do have a large attendance. Plus, all the sports you name do have fans that attend. Tiny or not, the fans, mostly parents, do attend. And, the last few posts were prompted by a similar silly post stating we owe a player a debt. Let's go with debt of gratitude for choosing OSU.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 13, 2023 8:53:30 GMT -8
You do whatever you want. My comments were prompted by a silly post disparaging Jelena’s OSU career. I stated my disagreement and my reasons. We can and do have games w/o fans. Happens all the time. OSU golf, Cross Country and Rowing typically compete for tiny numbers of OSU spectators, sometimes none. Then defend her career vs some lame bit of drama. The sports you list are supported how? You guessed it... by the sports that do have a large attendance. Plus, all the sports you name do have fans that attend. Tiny or not, the fans, mostly parents, do attend. And, the last few posts were prompted by a similar silly post stating we owe a player a debt. Let's go with debt of gratitude for choosing OSU. The original poster contends that “OSU gave her more than Jelena gave OSU!” If you agree with that - and it sounds like you do - I’m not going to bother to change your opinion. I just disagree. For the reasons stated.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 13, 2023 11:01:42 GMT -8
Wow, arguing over whether OSU, or Jelena owes the other......this may be an all-time stupid argument on here, and that's saying something.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 13, 2023 11:04:03 GMT -8
Maybe we should start breaking down every scholarship athlete, and whether they owe OSU, or vice versa??
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 13, 2023 11:11:48 GMT -8
Here's a thought.....what if she were your daughter? How would you feel about this argument? These student athletes are someone's family.
Im not perfect. I've had to remind myself of that sometimes when I get a little too fired up about a bad game from one of our student athletes.
I'm not saying scholarship athletes at Oregon State are beyond criticism.....D1 athletes should be able to handle it.....and there is a certain level of expectation......but the above argument is tacky.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 13, 2023 11:18:45 GMT -8
Here's a thought.....what if she were your daughter? How would you feel about this argument? These student athletes are someone's family. Im not perfect. I've had to remind myself of that sometimes when I get a little too fired up about a bad game from one of our student athletes. I'm not saying scholarship athletes at Oregon State are beyond criticism.....D1 athletes should be able to handle it.....and there is a certain level of expectation......but the above argument is tacky. Wait... unless I completely missed it was Jelena being disparaged in some way? If there was a post that did, I'd agree. But, content of this thread is pretty generic and not about bad games or stats.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 13, 2023 11:43:48 GMT -8
Here's a thought.....what if she were your daughter? How would you feel about this argument? These student athletes are someone's family. Im not perfect. I've had to remind myself of that sometimes when I get a little too fired up about a bad game from one of our student athletes. I'm not saying scholarship athletes at Oregon State are beyond criticism.....D1 athletes should be able to handle it.....and there is a certain level of expectation......but the above argument is tacky. Wait... unless I completely missed it was Jelena being disparaged in some way? If there was a post that did, I'd agree. But, content of this thread is pretty generic and not about bad games or stats. Yes. Beav74’s trollish post essentially concluded that OSU didn’t get its money’s worth back from paying for her surgery and rehab. I disagreed.
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Post by beavs6 on Apr 13, 2023 12:53:25 GMT -8
Wait... unless I completely missed it was Jelena being disparaged in some way? If there was a post that did, I'd agree. But, content of this thread is pretty generic and not about bad games or stats. Yes. Beav74’s trollish post essentially concluded that OSU didn’t get its money’s worth back from paying for her surgery and rehab. I disagreed. Twice you've used "troll" because you don't agree. Quit attacking the poster.(especially one we all KNOW isn't a troll) Attack the opinion or thought all you want.
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