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Post by badwack on Apr 2, 2023 17:40:31 GMT -8
What did we learn this weekend? Bazz is our only reliable hitter. The Outfield doesn't hit much at all. One of the Freshman that played is no where near ready to hit at this level. The Catchers can't hit. Donkey wants to walk way too much. Turley might as well shut his eyes, swing and hope to run into something, maybe even the ball. Then the Bull Pen took to day off and is anybody shocked we lost today? Call it a learning day and go home!
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 2, 2023 17:54:55 GMT -8
What did we learn this weekend? Bazz is our only reliable hitter. The Outfield doesn't hit much at all. One of the Freshman that played is no where near ready to hit at this level. The Catchers can't hit. Donkey wants to walk way too much. Turley might as well shut his eyes, swing and hope to run into something, maybe even the ball. Then the Bull Pen took to day off and is anybody shocked we lost today? Call it a learning day and go home! You didn’t learn s%#t. Kane, Kasper and Forrester all had key hits that led to the 2 victories. Bazzana had a good series, but Kane still has a better conference BA. And Forrester has the same BA as Bazzana. |
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Post by irimi on Apr 2, 2023 18:55:26 GMT -8
What did we learn this weekend? Bazz is our only reliable hitter. The Outfield doesn't hit much at all. One of the Freshman that played is no where near ready to hit at this level. The Catchers can't hit. Donkey wants to walk way too much. Turley might as well shut his eyes, swing and hope to run into something, maybe even the ball. Then the Bull Pen took to day off and is anybody shocked we lost today? Call it a learning day and go home! I disagree. I saw us bring energy and focus to the first two games. We matched up well with a top Pac 12 team. Today, we made mistakes and the dawgs seized the opportunity to keep us down. That’s all. |
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Post by avidbeaver on Apr 2, 2023 19:11:18 GMT -8
Relievers have been struggling, but we also only have 2 runs & 5 hits in a Sunday game.(UW starter came into this game with a 5+ ERA) I'm a guy that also holds our bats accountable. Beavers seem to make pitchers with high era the last few years look like cy young award candidates. Don't know the statistics but it sure seems that way. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 2, 2023 19:17:19 GMT -8
What did we learn this weekend? Bazz is our only reliable hitter. The Outfield doesn't hit much at all. One of the Freshman that played is no where near ready to hit at this level. The Catchers can't hit. Donkey wants to walk way too much. Turley might as well shut his eyes, swing and hope to run into something, maybe even the ball. Then the Bull Pen took to day off and is anybody shocked we lost today? Call it a learning day and go home! Growing pains man. Our current ball club has A LOT of work to do. The nice thing is, we have a good talent base to work with. Now, some young guys gotta develop......that's why we hired Mitch......and got the band back together. Irimi said it above, we just took the series from a pretty good ball club at their park.....nothing to sneeze at. On to hole, who is looking pretty damn good.....although, it doesn't look like ARZ is very good....hole roughed up their pitching badly this weekend, and got the sweep. One game at a time. |
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Post by giantkillers83 on Apr 2, 2023 19:18:51 GMT -8
Dorman?? Why takevLattery out now’? Because things were getting shaky last inning. Then the wheels came off. 5 hits over 9 didn’t help. |
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Post by beaver1989 on Apr 2, 2023 19:23:25 GMT -8
Relievers have been struggling, but we also only have 2 runs & 5 hits in a Sunday game.(UW starter came into this game with a 5+ ERA) I'm a guy that also holds our bats accountable. Beavers seem to make pitchers with high era the last few years look like cy young award candidates. Don't know the statistics but it sure seems that way. Lets just look at recent history, since we've hit Pac 12 play. The 3rd game of every series has been a struggle for runs. 3-1 loss Washington St 5-4 loss Stanford 2-1 win Cal 7-2 loss Washington Most of these Sunday starters shouldn't be looking like a Friday night ace. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 2, 2023 20:06:53 GMT -8
Beavers seem to make pitchers with high era the last few years look like cy young award candidates. Don't know the statistics but it sure seems that way. Lets just look at recent history, since we've hit Pac 12 play. The 3rd game of every series has been a struggle for runs. 3-1 loss Washington St 5-4 loss Stanford 2-1 win Cal 7-2 loss Washington Most of these Sunday starters shouldn't be looking like a Friday night ace. You can go back to Cal Poly, a 4-2 loss. I was tracking down an account of the end of the 2018 regular season the other day, so I went into the threads. In 2018, Oregon State finished 0-3-1 on Sunday heading into the Regional. And someone (not me, but I would love to take credit) said that we should not really worry about Sunday losses, because they would go away in the Tournament. And when pressed, the poster said that the players looked tired by Sunday after the midweek games, but that the team would be better rested in the Tournament, once the mid-week games stopped. And that dude was 100% right. But almost everyone (not me) jumped on him calling him an idiot. But he was right. Great teams win the first two and do not always have the stamina to close the sweep out on Sunday. It happens. 4-4 in the the first two games against Pac-12 opponents. Hopefully, without a midweek game, we have a chance to sweep Oregon at PK. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 2, 2023 20:49:59 GMT -8
Lets just look at recent history, since we've hit Pac 12 play. The 3rd game of every series has been a struggle for runs. 3-1 loss Washington St 5-4 loss Stanford 2-1 win Cal 7-2 loss Washington Most of these Sunday starters shouldn't be looking like a Friday night ace. You can go back to Cal Poly, a 4-2 loss. I was tracking down an account of the end of the 2018 regular season the other day, so I went into the threads. In 2018, Oregon State finished 0-3-1 on Sunday heading into the Regional. And someone (not me, but I would love to take credit) said that we should not really worry about Sunday losses, because they would go away in the Tournament. And when pressed, the poster said that the players looked tired by Sunday after the midweek games, but that the team would be better rested in the Tournament, once the mid-week games stopped. And that dude was 100% right. But almost everyone (not me) jumped on him calling him an idiot. But he was right. Great teams win the first two and do not always have the stamina to close the sweep out on Sunday. It happens. 4-4 in the the first two games against Pac-12 opponents. Hopefully, without a midweek game, we have a chance to sweep Oregon at PK.And hole plays Portland tuesday. It's a valid point, but hole is playing good ball right now......let's get a win Thursday night and go from there. |
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Post by grackle on Apr 3, 2023 8:38:58 GMT -8
I continue to be mystified by some Canham-Dorman in-game strategies and pitching changes. For example, we are in a deep hole in the PAC standings and need every win we can salvage if we have a hope for the post-season. Yet, when we might have a chance to sweep a series and really gain some ground in the conference, Dorman inexplicably brings in a (literally) totally untested freshman pitcher. It was hardly surprising when the kid immediately blew up and largely cost us the game. Why is Dorman essentially experimenting THAT moment?
Also, why is our bunt game occurring with such frequency when decent hitters need hits, rather than using the bunt mostly for sacrificing runners to the next base?? I could go on.
To my eyes, these kinds of coaching inconsistencies and strange moves reduce Beaver player's chances for success. I believe that neither Canham nor Dorman has adjusted to the fact that they're coaching the college game, not MLB.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 3, 2023 9:35:02 GMT -8
Coaching Decisions and this week:
Coaching decisions are always subject to scrutiny when they are made, but it is the 20/20 hindsight scrutiny that creates the most "noise". I've never known a coach to make a decision based on putting their team or players in jeopardy. Have some made some seat of the pants decisions based on need, giving kids an opportunity, and based on info fans have no privy to? Yep. When it works out, it is "gutsy", "genius", "shows confidence in player and player development". When it does not pan out... well, we all know the "noise".
OSU was fortunate, competed enough, came through when they needed to... whatever you want to label it... to get a Saturday sweep and a must needed series win on the road. In doing so the bats were adequate over the two games, and the pitching very solid. Because of both the pen was not taxed and provided options for Sunday. I have no inside details but some of the pitching decisions may be based on health with so many games being played in very unfavorable conditions.
I will say that the decisions become more suspect (again depending on health/options available) considering OSU's overall pathetic offensive output. You really can not take too many chances, give the opponent too many scoring chances/runs when your offense is (conference):
11th in BA @ .201
11th in SLG @ .306 (11th in total bases... 9th in XBH)
10th in OBP @ .314
10th in Ks (114 in 12 games vs 55 BB)
10th in Runs (47 in 12 games... 3.92/g 10th behind UW @ 3.88)
10th in RBI
While pitching will have to continue to improve and excel while the offense tries to find ways to produce runners, hits, runs. In conference play pitching:
3rd in ERA @ 3.89
3rd in K/9 @ 9.61
3rd in WHIP @ 1.24
4th in R @ 49
4th in ER @ 45
In Oregon OSU faces a staff that is at ( in 9 games):
1.11 H/IP
6.86 ERA
1.73 WHIP
86 Ks vs 50 BB
But, an offense:
1st in SLG @ .545
1st in RBI @ 74 in 9 games
1st in HR @ 15 in 9 games
1st in R @ 77 in 9 games
2nd in XBH @ 41 in 9 games (averaging 20 TB/g)
2nd in BA @ .335
2nd in OBP @ .403
The pitching best be very solid, and the bats have a great opportunity vs a below average staff.
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Post by jdogge on Apr 3, 2023 9:41:01 GMT -8
I continue to be mystified by some Canham-Dorman in-game strategies and pitching changes. For example, we are in a deep hole in the PAC standings and need every win we can salvage if we have a hope for the post-season. Yet, when we might have a chance to sweep a series and really gain some ground in the conference, Dorman inexplicably brings in a (literally) totally untested freshman pitcher. It was hardly surprising when the kid immediately blew up and largely cost us the game. Why is Dorman essentially experimenting THAT moment? Also, why is our bunt game occurring with such frequency when decent hitters need hits, rather than using the bunt mostly for sacrificing runners to the next base?? I could go on. To my eyes, these kinds of coaching inconsistencies and strange moves reduce Beaver player's chances for success. I believe that neither Canham nor Dorman has adjusted to the fact that they're coaching the college game, not MLB. Perhaps Canham-Dorman know this team isn't playing in the post season and taking the opportunity to develop the talent that will compete next year. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 3, 2023 10:01:00 GMT -8
"Perhaps Canham-Dorman know this team isn't playing in the post season and taking the opportunity to develop the talent that will compete next year."Whoa... great info! I can stop wasting $$ at the homes games and traveling to select away games. My tix at Goss can be sold to those who don't get to see games, albeit games not involving a post season OSU team. Is it a new attribute MC has acquired in that he can not only know the future of his own squad, but how the other 10 programs will fare, and how the NCAA selection committee will draw the regional teams. New or not, it is going to save me a boat load of dough. I'll even consider just giving away my tix since I'll be saving so much money knowing how the season will play out. Yeah... 
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Post by messi on Apr 3, 2023 10:42:58 GMT -8
I continue to be mystified by some Canham-Dorman in-game strategies and pitching changes. For example, we are in a deep hole in the PAC standings and need every win we can salvage if we have a hope for the post-season. Yet, when we might have a chance to sweep a series and really gain some ground in the conference, Dorman inexplicably brings in a (literally) totally untested freshman pitcher. It was hardly surprising when the kid immediately blew up and largely cost us the game. Why is Dorman essentially experimenting THAT moment? Also, why is our bunt game occurring with such frequency when decent hitters need hits, rather than using the bunt mostly for sacrificing runners to the next base?? I could go on. To my eyes, these kinds of coaching inconsistencies and strange moves reduce Beaver player's chances for success. I believe that neither Canham nor Dorman has adjusted to the fact that they're coaching the college game, not MLB.  |
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Post by TheGlove on Apr 3, 2023 11:22:55 GMT -8
"Perhaps Canham-Dorman know this team isn't playing in the post season and taking the opportunity to develop the talent that will compete next year."Whoa... great info! I can stop wasting $$ at the homes games and traveling to select away games. My tix at Goss can be sold to those who don't get to see games, albeit games not involving a post season OSU team. Is it a new attribute MC has acquired in that he can not only know the future of his own squad, but how the other 10 programs will fare, and how the NCAA selection committee will draw the regional teams. New or not, it is going to save me a boat load of dough. I'll even consider just giving away my tix since I'll be saving so much money knowing how the season will play out. Yeah... Why do hate the quote feature? |
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