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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 1, 2023 10:06:04 GMT -8
Supposedly Jarod was given ~$100k for this last season at UNR. Seems kinda sad that a supposed "Power 5" program such as OSU wouldn't be able to match UNR in that regard being just one full season removed from an elite eight appearance. Then again UNR made the tourney this year so maybe that is the case and UNR invest more money into MBB than OSU does (very likely so) and OSU diverts NIL money towards baseball and football (or has little to begin with). Either way don't blame JL for going to a program he felt could win and make the tourney regardless of the money, he helped contribute to the best team in over 40 years at OSU so I have absolutely no ill will against the guy and will always hold him and everyone else on that team in a special place for me in regards to OSU athletics. I just would like to see OSU invest a little more into MBB as it is the only other program that should be turning a profit for the university other than football (for OSU baseball is the weird exception to the rule). I’d question that baseball makes any money. I’ve heard the opposite many times. Don’t know how accurate it is, or for what year it was, but the first thing that came up when I googled Oregon State Baseball budget had baseball as the biggest money hole of all of our men’s sports. www.collegefactual.com/colleges/oregon-state-university/student-life/sports/ Could be because of stadium improvements? What year are we looking at here? If 2019-20 or 2020-21, yeah, I can see it. But Oregon State should have max profit from 2021-22. They always try to zero out the numbers, so that Oregon State Baseball shows no profit. But a bunch of the "expenses" are not real numbers. A lot of the "expenses" from the other sports are similarly not real numbers. But the baseball books tend to be very cooked every year to maximize expenses and minimize income. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 1, 2023 12:31:09 GMT -8
Baseball is a net loss at almost every D1 school without a large attendance capability combined with lots of home games, and short travel. Hello SEC.
OSU/baseball has huge travel expenses. A travel roster of players and staff almost ½ of football with several multi night stays. Combined that with a tiny revenue stream. Outside donations aren't part of the "books". There is no "cooking" going on. Baseball typically loses money even on Omaha years. Breaking even is a good year.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 1, 2023 13:52:02 GMT -8
Supposedly Jarod was given ~$100k for this last season at UNR. Seems kinda sad that a supposed "Power 5" program such as OSU wouldn't be able to match UNR in that regard being just one full season removed from an elite eight appearance. Then again UNR made the tourney this year so maybe that is the case and UNR invest more money into MBB than OSU does (very likely so) and OSU diverts NIL money towards baseball and football (or has little to begin with). Either way don't blame JL for going to a program he felt could win and make the tourney regardless of the money, he helped contribute to the best team in over 40 years at OSU so I have absolutely no ill will against the guy and will always hold him and everyone else on that team in a special place for me in regards to OSU athletics. I just would like to see OSU invest a little more into MBB as it is the only other program that should be turning a profit for the university other than football (for OSU baseball is the weird exception to the rule). I’d question that baseball makes any money. I’ve heard the opposite many times. Don’t know how accurate it is, or for what year it was, but the first thing that came up when I googled Oregon State Baseball budget had baseball as the biggest money hole of all of our men’s sports. www.collegefactual.com/colleges/oregon-state-university/student-life/sports/ Could be because of stadium improvements? OK. I did a deep dive to figure this out, because it bothered me. collegefactual.com is using the 2019-20 COVID-19 numbers. 2020-21 numbers are bad, as well, but nowhere near 2019-2020 bad. In 2021, Oregon State earned the 16th-most money in the country. Arizona and Arizona State earned more in 2021. The 2022 numbers are not out yet that I can find. They have released those numbers in May of the year following in the past. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 1, 2023 15:05:32 GMT -8
When you are talking "earned" money are you talking revenues or actual profits? There can be a huge difference.
I figured the numbers are from an earlier year.
Interestingly enough they have a graph that shows the basketball program made some money but unlike the other major sports they don't mention actual numbers. I've had a tough time finding specifically the men's basketball numbers in a lot of other articles the last few years as well.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 1, 2023 15:18:56 GMT -8
Baseball had 35 players, but only 27 scholarships. So the university is receiving the equivalent of 8 full-time tuitions and fees from the baseball program. Hidden generated revenue of more than $100,000, as those students would not be here otherwise.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 1, 2023 15:36:12 GMT -8
Baseball had 35 players, but only 27 scholarships. So the university is receiving the equivalent of 8 full-time tuitions and fees from the baseball program. Hidden generated revenue of more than $100,000, as those students would not be here otherwise. When did it go from 11.7 to 27? |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 1, 2023 15:43:11 GMT -8
Baseball had 35 players, but only 27 scholarships. So the university is receiving the equivalent of 8 full-time tuitions and fees from the baseball program. Hidden generated revenue of more than $100,000, as those students would not be here otherwise. When did it go from 11.7 to 27? Duh, only 27 can be on scholarship, brain fart, no one gets a full ride. Thanks for pointing out my stupidity. So OSU receives the equivalent of 23.3 full-time tuitions and fees from players, a significant amount of change. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 1, 2023 16:39:19 GMT -8
When you are talking "earned" money are you talking revenues or actual profits? There can be a huge difference. I figured the numbers are from an earlier year. Interestingly enough they have a graph that shows the basketball program made some money but unlike the other major sports they don't mention actual numbers. I've had a tough time finding specifically the men's basketball numbers in a lot of other articles the last few years as well. Oregon State made $8,124,901 in 2020-21 for basketball. Those are the last numbers out that I can find. That is eighth in the Pac-12, ahead of Colorado, Oregon, Utah, & Wazzu. Oregon State was 11th in revenue in the Pac-12 in 2019-20, only ahead of Wazzu. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 2, 2023 10:34:13 GMT -8
When you are talking "earned" money are you talking revenues or actual profits? There can be a huge difference. I figured the numbers are from an earlier year. Interestingly enough they have a graph that shows the basketball program made some money but unlike the other major sports they don't mention actual numbers. I've had a tough time finding specifically the men's basketball numbers in a lot of other articles the last few years as well. Oregon State made $8,124,901 in 2020-21 for basketball. Those are the last numbers out that I can find. That is eighth in the Pac-12, ahead of Colorado, Oregon, Utah, & Wazzu. Oregon State was 11th in revenue in the Pac-12 in 2019-20, only ahead of Wazzu. That didn't really answer my question. Got a link so we can see if they actually made 8 million or just had 8 million in revenues? No business makes a dime until revenues exceed expenses, then they only "make" the difference between the two, so its tough to tell which numbers you're actually looking at. It's weird that basketball (men's) budgets are tougher to find than some of the other sports. |
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