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Post by tamatrix on Mar 30, 2023 10:48:14 GMT -8
I say let em flip.....they ain't gonna flip when they strike out....get my drift? Agreed! |
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Post by ag87 on Mar 30, 2023 12:19:38 GMT -8
Egregious bat flip. And the ump had some words for him when he came home. Should’ve tossed him. That flip was crazy. Did TSoukalas come to the plate again? Was there a fastball tailing in at rib height? I'm not sure what's best or worse? Beanball wars? The ump should have tossed him to avoid the former. |
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Post by jayvinson on Mar 30, 2023 12:33:45 GMT -8
He did bat again and struck out. No bat flip.
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Post by irimi on Mar 30, 2023 12:58:42 GMT -8
Should’ve tossed him. That flip was crazy. Did TSoukalas come to the plate again? Was there a fastball tailing in at rib height? I'm not sure what's best or worse? Beanball wars? The ump should have tossed him to avoid the former. I missed the game. But a flip like that is simply inviting response, which is trouble in college games. If it were a 3 game series, maybe it would've needed a stronger response to keep things from getting out of hand. |
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Post by nabeav on Mar 31, 2023 8:03:03 GMT -8
Some day I need someone to do a deep dive on why it is that EVERY. SINGLE. TEAM. we play appears to talk sh*t and preen towards our dugout. It can't just be that we're good, right? But every game I listen to, Mike Parker is talking about the "histrionics from the opposing dugout." Doesn't matter who we're playing or if it's a midweek game or the rubber match of a Pac-12 series. Do we somehow invite this on ourselves? Are our guys talking, but we don't make mention of it or necessarily notice it because they're "our guys?"
It happens far too often for me to think it's a coincidence.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 31, 2023 8:33:50 GMT -8
Some day I need someone to do a deep dive on why it is that EVERY. SINGLE. TEAM. we play appears to talk sh*t and preen towards our dugout. It can't just be that we're good, right? But every game I listen to, Mike Parker is talking about the "histrionics from the opposing dugout." Doesn't matter who we're playing or if it's a midweek game or the rubber match of a Pac-12 series. Do we somehow invite this on ourselves? Are our guys talking, but we don't make mention of it or necessarily notice it because they're "our guys?" It happens far too often for me to think it's a coincidence. To teams that play us a lot yes we are that good. We've been a national program beating up on most of them for the better part of 20 years. Every year teams will be bringing their A game to try to get theirs against a big program. This year will be particuarly bad as we look down and blood is in the water. Everyone has been playing us hard so far and thats not going to stop until we start steam rolling people to the point that they doubt they can win after our first hit. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 31, 2023 9:42:10 GMT -8
Agree with Nuke. We are a program everyone is up for. It means something to beat OSU in baseball.
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 31, 2023 10:33:40 GMT -8
Agree with Nuke. We are a program everyone is up for. It means something to beat OSU in baseball. I was sitting right next to the Seattle U dug out during the game and after that home run they celebrated like that one the freaking World Series |
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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 31, 2023 10:47:26 GMT -8
Umpires have to be smarter than that, if you allow egregious bat flips than you need to allow retaliation. Stop the provocation or turn it into WWE
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 31, 2023 11:07:24 GMT -8
Umpires have to be smarter than that, if you allow egregious bat flips than you need to allow retaliation. Stop the provocation or turn it into WWE But didn't the ump talk to him? Seemed to be enough as it didn't turn into the WWE, right? I don't think default should be penalize for something like that. |
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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 31, 2023 11:21:56 GMT -8
Umpires have to be smarter than that, if you allow egregious bat flips than you need to allow retaliation. Stop the provocation or turn it into WWE But didn't the ump talk to him? Seemed to be enough as it didn't turn into the WWE, right? I don't think default should be penalize for something like that. to me if you talk to him after he has gotten away with it. It’s like someone throwing a punch than stopping a fight. Maybe since it’s supposed to be a point of emphasis with the umpires they could make it clear in the coaches meeting at home plate before the game that none of that will be allowed. I’m either for bat flipping and retaliation or not letting it start at all |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 31, 2023 11:54:50 GMT -8
But didn't the ump talk to him? Seemed to be enough as it didn't turn into the WWE, right? I don't think default should be penalize for something like that. to me if you talk to him after he has gotten away with it. It’s like someone throwing a punch than stopping a fight. Maybe since it’s supposed to be a point of emphasis with the umpires they could make it clear in the coaches meeting at home plate before the game that none of that will be allowed. I’m either for bat flipping and retaliation or not letting it start at all I get your point, and I agree that the umps should make all that stuff clear at the beginning.....I guess I'm of the mind that a little celebration on a no-doubter is ok......these are kids, not robots.....and if the opposing pitcher doesn't like it, pitch better! That said, obviously if the "showing up" is excessive, the umps should do something about it. I saw the AB, and I didn't think the flip was a big deal......now if you flip, stare at the pitcher, and maybe jaw at him, that is excessive. Honestly, I have a bigger issue when kids jaw at the ump for getting rung up |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 31, 2023 12:14:02 GMT -8
to me if you talk to him after he has gotten away with it. It’s like someone throwing a punch than stopping a fight. Maybe since it’s supposed to be a point of emphasis with the umpires they could make it clear in the coaches meeting at home plate before the game that none of that will be allowed. I’m either for bat flipping and retaliation or not letting it start at all I get your point, and I agree that the umps should make all that stuff clear at the beginning.....I guess I'm of the mind that a little celebration on a no-doubter is ok......these are kids, not robots.....and if the opposing pitcher doesn't like it, pitch better! That said, obviously if the "showing up" is excessive, the umps should do something about it. I saw the AB, and I didn't think the flip was a big deal......now if you flip, stare at the pitcher, and maybe jaw at him, that is excessive. Honestly, I have a bigger issue when kids jaw at the ump for getting rung up I don't know, if anyone has mentioned it, but the issue that I have with the bat flip was that it was right in front of the visitor's dugout. That's provocative. Having said that: I admire Oregon State for responding in the best way possible, winning the game on the field. |
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