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Post by chinmusic on Mar 22, 2023 7:19:23 GMT -8
A few observations on the Stanford trip. In spite of a slow start, Stanford is a good baseball team with a potent offense and capable pitching staff. With potentially four or five early round draft picks in the batting order, they were generally favored to win the PAC-12 championship with maybe a challenge from UCLA prior to the season beginning. They returned the nucleus of their roster from their 2022 CWS team. The Beavs were clearly out-hit in this series. I thought there were several factors that contributed to our losses, but simply put, we didn't get the timely hits we needed.
I thought a contributing factor to the OSU hitting dilemma might have been because Stanford's PC Thomas Eager got away with pitching only 7 guys in a 3 game series. I had hoped we might get deeper into his bullpen. Stanford only carries 12 pitchers plus OF Braden Montgomery who can pitch, and four or five of the 12 have been relatively untested this season. The Beavs saw their best 7 but that's the drop-off point. The Cardinal opened with Matthews as expected and got 16 1/3 good innings from their 3 starters (7 earned runs on 11 hits and 4 walks). The strong start from freshman Matt Scott was a key factor in the series sweep. The numbers are telling and there are however, a couple of bright spots for OSU.
In the series, Stanford hit .326 (31-85) while OSU hit an even .200 (20-100). In 24 innings At Bat, Stanford put 42 runners on base, scoring 22 of them. In 27 innings OSU had 35 runners reach base with 17 of them scoring. Considering the Beavs lost two 1-run games, those differentials were significant.
The Beavers drew 13 BB. Stanford had 5.
The Beavers had 30 K's. Stanford had 19.
The Beavers had 36 TB. Stanford had 46.
The Beavers LOB 16. Stanford left 14
OSU's OBP was .304 which comparatively looks better than the .200 BA. They capitalized on walks and errors to supplement their hitting.
Stanford is more experienced than OSU and in playing 3 close games, that can be the difference. Oregon State has 15 new players in the process of assimilating into a cohesive team - two thirds of our team are underclassmen and we have six new starters. Someone reminded us recently of having "unreal expectations" and while expecting to win every game, there is a growing process taking place with this team. There are lessons being learned and Stanford right now, is teaching some hard lessons . . . to everybody.
I'll save pitching for another day.
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Post by ricke71 on Mar 22, 2023 8:36:22 GMT -8
Many excellent points in your post.
Here's another set of numbers: Stanford scored 14 of their 22 runs in just 3 innings.
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Post by qbeaver on Mar 22, 2023 8:59:10 GMT -8
Clearly this team is rebuilding a bit. Losing all three potential all conference outfielders and an all American lefty is hard to overcome. The Stanford series specifically,the Cardinal is a top 10 team on their home field. We lost three games by a total of 5 runs and two by a single run. It shows me we were competitive. It's obvious coach Canham is trying to figure out what he has on this roster. Last year,the line-up was much more defined. Will this team be capable of going to Omaha? I'm not ready to say that,but if we can get some things figured out,this squad can make the tournament and get some experience for this young team.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 22, 2023 9:44:12 GMT -8
Matt Scott is going to be a stud. He was very impressive as a high school grad for the Knights last summer. Game 3 winner Drew Dowd also pitched for the Knights in 2021, they've established a good pipeline to Stanford.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 22, 2023 10:58:37 GMT -8
Clearly this team is rebuilding a bit. Losing all three potential all conference outfielders and an all American lefty is hard to overcome. The Stanford series specifically,the Cardinal is a top 10 team on their home field. We lost three games by a total of 5 runs and two by a single run. It shows me we were competitive. It's obvious coach Canham is trying to figure out what he has on this roster. Last year,the line-up was much more defined. Will this team be capable of going to Omaha? I'm not ready to say that,but if we can get some things figured out,this squad can make the tournament and get some experience for this young team. Agreed... and sitting at Sunken, this Furd team is not the CWS version. At least not yet. They'll get better as will OSU. But, they certainly didn't teach any lessons to a middling 10-8-1 SC team on the road. OSU seemed to up Furd's game. But, OSU will get everyone's best efforts. The Cal series is a must win. Cal is tough to figure. Last look a RPI around 94, 9-8/1-5. They are 7-3 vs NC SOS of 128. But, 3-3 vs top 50, and 3-3 vs 101-200. Home series win expected. Sweep (needed) entirely possible... 13-2 vs Cal @goss the last 5 series. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 22, 2023 12:33:51 GMT -8
Many excellent points in your post. Here's another set of numbers: Stanford scored 14 of their 22 runs in just 3 innings. And Ferrer gave up (inherited and not) 10 of the 14. Ferrer picked up a loss and handed Sellers a loss that Sellers did not deserve. Ferrer pitched well in his first three appearances but got lit up like a Christmas tree at Sunken Diamond. Hopefully, that is an aberration that is never repeated. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 22, 2023 16:11:48 GMT -8
A few observations on the Stanford trip. In spite of a slow start, Stanford is a good baseball team with a potent offense and capable pitching staff. With potentially four or five early round draft picks in the batting order, they were generally favored to win the PAC-12 championship with maybe a challenge from UCLA prior to the season beginning. They returned the nucleus of their roster from their 2022 CWS team. The Beavs were clearly out-hit in this series. I thought there were several factors that contributed to our losses, but simply put, we didn't get the timely hits we needed. I thought a contributing factor to the OSU hitting dilemma might have been because Stanford's PC Thomas Eager got away with pitching only 7 guys in a 3 game series. I had hoped we might get deeper into his bullpen. Stanford only carries 12 pitchers plus OF Braden Montgomery who can pitch, and four or five of the 12 have been relatively untested this season. The Beavs saw their best 7 but that's the drop-off point. The Cardinal opened with Matthews as expected and got 16 1/3 good innings from their 3 starters (7 earned runs on 11 hits and 4 walks). The strong start from freshman Matt Scott was a key factor in the series sweep. The numbers are telling and there are however, a couple of bright spots for OSU. In the series, Stanford hit .326 (31-85) while OSU hit an even .200 (20-100). In 24 innings At Bat, Stanford put 42 runners on base, scoring 22 of them. In 27 innings OSU had 35 runners reach base with 17 of them scoring. Considering the Beavs lost two 1-run games, those differentials were significant. The Beavers drew 13 BB. Stanford had 5. The Beavers had 30 K's. Stanford had 19. The Beavers had 36 TB. Stanford had 46. The Beavers LOB 16. Stanford left 14 OSU's OBP was .304 which comparatively looks better than the .200 BA. They capitalized on walks and errors to supplement their hitting. Stanford is more experienced than OSU and in playing 3 close games, that can be the difference. Oregon State has 15 new players in the process of assimilating into a cohesive team - two thirds of our team are underclassmen and we have six new starters. Someone reminded us recently of having "unreal expectations" and while expecting to win every game, there is a growing process taking place with this team. There are lessons being learned and Stanford right now, is teaching some hard lessons . . . to everybody. I'll save pitching for another day. Oregon State scored 17 runs! Eight more runs than the weekend before against bottom half (likely) Wazzu, nine more runs than last year against Stanford, and eight more runs than the Beavs scored in their last trip to Sunken Diamond. The only other time that Oregon State got swept scoring more than 16 runs in the last two decades was back in Tucson in 2007: 5-4, 8-2, and 17-14. Of note: Oregon State swept Stanford by scoring 16 in 2006, 15 in 2011, and 7 in 2014. Oregon State swept Oregon by scoring 12 in 2010, 15 in 2012, 13 in 2014, 12 in 2017, and 17 in 2022. The Beavs won their first National Championship by scoring 17 against North Carolina in 2006 and their last National Championship by scoring 11 against Arkansas in 2018. After stumbling to a 1-1 start, Oregon State won the last three games in the 2007 Charlottesville Regional by scoring exactly 17 runs. Oregon State swept through the 2013 Corvallis Regional by scoring 14. To expand upon that, number of Pac-10 opponents Oregon State scored 17+ runs against: 2005 7/8
2006 3/8
2007 5/8
2008 3/8
2009 4/9
2010 2/9
2011 3/9
2012 3/10
2013 6/10
2014 5/10
2015 1/10
2016 4/10
2017 5/10
2018 7/10
2019 3/10
2021 6/10
2022 7/10
2023 1/2
Oregon State has scored more than 17 runs in a weekend series against Pac-10/12 competition exactly 66 times and exactly 17 runs 9 times. In total Oregon State has scored 17+ runs in 75 of the 161 most recent conference weekend series. That is to say that the majority of Oregon State teams would love to score 17 runs in a three-game conference weekend series.
On the other side of the plate, number of times that Oregon State allowed 22+ runs:
2005 1/8
2006 1/8
2007 2/8
2008 2/8
2009 1/9
2010 3/9
2011 1/9
2012 0/10
2013 0/10
2014 0/10
2015 0/10
2016 0/10
2017 0/10
2018 2/10
2019 0/10
2021 1/10
2022 1/10
2023 1/2
Oregon State has allowed 22+ runs in 16 of the 161 weekend series, 9.9% of the time. 90.1% of the time, Oregon State allows fewer runs.
IMHO, if you are going to talk about lessons learned on the Farm, the very first thing to discuss is defense/pitching. The hitters did their job. The Wazzu series the weekend before might be exactly the opposite conversation. |
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Post by 56chevy on Mar 22, 2023 19:19:47 GMT -8
It just seemed to me like they lacked the confidence to win at Stanford. That could be contributed in part to getting beat the weekend before. Baseball is a game of momentum. Momentum is as good as tomorrows starting pitching...or the crowd size and noise level at Goss. I don't think we brought our A game last weekend either. Hope we pick it up Friday.
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