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Post by pabeaver on Mar 17, 2023 18:27:53 GMT -8
”OSU has more recently made an Elite Eight than Arizona” You are arguing that OSU hasn’t more recently made an Elite Eight than Arizona? Nope... but, comments deal more than with the exact title. They are responses to other comments. The combo of recently in a E8 and being successful is a joke. No way an E8 followed by being the 343rd best D1 team in terms of wins is successful. In fact it could probably be one of the biggest flops in NCAA history?! But, you go ahead and set your standards any way you want. WT's tenure is part of the worst era of OSU hoops. Not the turn around some here want us to believe. He's had the worst single seaon record in OSU history, another that's 3rd worst I believe. And this season that ranks in the bottom 10. The E8 benchmark as some standard is ridiculous. It's an anomaly of epic portions. Successful... really? You are the one insisting that message board posters stick to the topic. You are the only one in this thread that used the word successful |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 17, 2023 18:35:41 GMT -8
Nope... but, comments deal more than with the exact title. They are responses to other comments. The combo of recently in a E8 and being successful is a joke. No way an E8 followed by being the 343rd best D1 team in terms of wins is successful. In fact it could probably be one of the biggest flops in NCAA history?! But, you go ahead and set your standards any way you want. WT's tenure is part of the worst era of OSU hoops. Not the turn around some here want us to believe. He's had the worst single seaon record in OSU history, another that's 3rd worst I believe. And this season that ranks in the bottom 10. The E8 benchmark as some standard is ridiculous. It's an anomaly of epic portions. Successful... really? You are the one insisting that message board posters stick to the topic. You are the only one in this thread that used the word successful Lol... I've insisted? "has a more-impressive recent history" Does that imply success? My bad if I interpreted that as success. Do you think one E8 means that OSU has had "a more-impressive recent history"? than Zona? Who and what is your take on "recent"? |
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Post by pabeaver on Mar 17, 2023 18:44:56 GMT -8
You are the one insisting that message board posters stick to the topic. You are the only one in this thread that used the word successful Lol... I've insisted? "has a more-impressive recent history" Does that imply success? My bad if I interpreted that as success. Do you think one E8 means that OSU has had "a more-impressive recent history"? than Zona? Who and what is your take on "recent"? Ummm you might want to scroll to the top of the thread to check out the actual topic Know exactly the topic and heading. Hence, "recently" and "successfull" are very subjective... right? You said you know the topic and header. “Successfull” was in neither. But I guess “Hence” is subjective too |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 17, 2023 19:15:54 GMT -8
fridaynightlights gets his numbers wrong, and you added more wrong to the mix. And then rgeorge liked your post! Only 1 of the 8 Oregon State Ralph Miller appearances was back in the 32-team Tournament days, and Oregon State beat Middle Tennessee State 78-67 in the Mideast quarterfinals in Lexington, Kentucky. A not so fun fact is that, up until the 2021 win over Tennessee, this was Oregon State's last official win in the Tournament. So, no. The Tournament expanded to 40 in 1979 and to 48 in 1980. It stuck at 48 until 1982 and then expanded to 52 in 1983, 53 in 1984, and 64 in 1985. It stayed at 64 until 2001, due to the break-up of the WAC into the Mountain West and WAC. Oregon State received a bye in the 1980, 1981, and 1982 Tournaments. #2 Oregon State lost to #10 Lamar 81-77 after a bye in 1980 and #1 Oregon State lost to #8 Kansas State 50-48 after a bye in 1981. #2 Oregon State beat #7 Pepperdine 70-51 after a bye in 1982 and then defeated #3 Idaho (ranked #8 nationally) before bowing out to #1 Georgetown (#6 nationally). The 60-42 win over Idaho in 1982 was Oregon State's last win in the Tournament until the 2021 win over Tennessee. But again, no. As for tougher, no Arizonas and no Colorado back in 1975. If you subtract those teams out in say 2021, Oregon State was 9-5 in conference, which probably would have been good enough for an invite back in 1975. If you take the Arizonas and Colorado out in 2019, Oregon State is 9-6 in conference, finishes second and is a surefire Tourney team in 1975. It also should be noted that Oregon State missed playing the return game against #10 Stanford and #12 California in 2019, which would have been nice. In 2021, the two misses were a home game against #4 UCLA and a road game against #11 Washington. It is entirely probable that both would have resulted in wins, depending on when the games were played. Oregon State won the Pac-10 in 1980, 1981, 1982, and 1984. Oregon State went to the Tournament in 1985, 1988, and 1989 as an at large. The Beavers finished third, second, and fourth respectively in the Pac-10. 2019 Oregon State would have made the Tournament in 1985 and 1989 based upon the foregoing. They are different eras, so comparisons between the two are always going to be pretty limited. The team with Lonnie Shelton and crew lost to Indiana by 10 then best MT ST. If you lostyour first game,you played a second back then. No. You only got a third game, if you won the first one. Oregon State beat Middle Tennessee State by 11, lost to Indiana by 10, and then lost to Central Michigan by a point in the Mideast Third Place Game. Central Michigan's win was against Georgetown in Tuscaloosa. Kentucky eat Central Michigan and then beat Indiana in the Elite Eight. Kentucky lost to Pac-8 Champion UCLA in the Championship Game. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 17, 2023 21:34:06 GMT -8
fridaynightlights gets his numbers wrong, and you added more wrong to the mix. And then rgeorge liked your post! Only 1 of the 8 Oregon State Ralph Miller appearances was back in the 32-team Tournament days, and Oregon State beat Middle Tennessee State 78-67 in the Mideast quarterfinals in Lexington, Kentucky. A not so fun fact is that, up until the 2021 win over Tennessee, this was Oregon State's last official win in the Tournament. So, no. The Tournament expanded to 40 in 1979 and to 48 in 1980. It stuck at 48 until 1982 and then expanded to 52 in 1983, 53 in 1984, and 64 in 1985. It stayed at 64 until 2001, due to the break-up of the WAC into the Mountain West and WAC. Oregon State received a bye in the 1980, 1981, and 1982 Tournaments. #2 Oregon State lost to #10 Lamar 81-77 after a bye in 1980 and #1 Oregon State lost to #8 Kansas State 50-48 after a bye in 1981. #2 Oregon State beat #7 Pepperdine 70-51 after a bye in 1982 and then defeated #3 Idaho (ranked #8 nationally) before bowing out to #1 Georgetown (#6 nationally). The 60-42 win over Idaho in 1982 was Oregon State's last win in the Tournament until the 2021 win over Tennessee. But again, no. As for tougher, no Arizonas and no Colorado back in 1975. If you subtract those teams out in say 2021, Oregon State was 9-5 in conference, which probably would have been good enough for an invite back in 1975. If you take the Arizonas and Colorado out in 2019, Oregon State is 9-6 in conference, finishes second and is a surefire Tourney team in 1975. It also should be noted that Oregon State missed playing the return game against #10 Stanford and #12 California in 2019, which would have been nice. In 2021, the two misses were a home game against #4 UCLA and a road game against #11 Washington. It is entirely probable that both would have resulted in wins, depending on when the games were played. Oregon State won the Pac-10 in 1980, 1981, 1982, and 1984. Oregon State went to the Tournament in 1985, 1988, and 1989 as an at large. The Beavers finished third, second, and fourth respectively in the Pac-10. 2019 Oregon State would have made the Tournament in 1985 and 1989 based upon the foregoing. They are different eras, so comparisons between the two are always going to be pretty limited. My apologies for the incorrect info, though I think my point still has merit. What I still find strange is that people feel the need to attack (maybe to strong a word) Miller’s record — for what, to bolster up Tinkle? Miller is an all-time great. The Court is named after him and for great reason. The eras are different, though. It is almost always going to be a stretch to compare anyone who coached a quarter of a century apart. Apologies, Ohio. Most of your stuff on here is gold. I just wanted to make sure that we are all talking straight and not skewing history. And Baseba11 appears to be back from the ether just to try and lampoon Tinkle, which is always disquieting. |
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Post by beaverology on Mar 18, 2023 6:16:18 GMT -8
After the #12 Beavers beat #5 Tennessee, they took out #4 Oklahoma State with NBA #1 pick Cade Cunningham. Love the contributions from Dearon Tucker and Tariq Silver. They hit some big shots. Enjoy.
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Post by qbeaver on Mar 18, 2023 11:12:10 GMT -8
The team with Lonnie Shelton and crew lost to Indiana by 10 then best MT ST. If you lostyour first game,you played a second back then. No. You only got a third game, if you won the first one. Oregon State beat Middle Tennessee State by 11, lost to Indiana by 10, and then lost to Central Michigan by a point in the Mideast Third Place Game. Central Michigan's win was against Georgetown in Tuscaloosa. Kentucky eat Central Michigan and then beat Indiana in the Elite Eight. Kentucky lost to Pac-8 Champion UCLA in the Championship Game. Central Michigan had the great Dan Roundfield of the Hawks. Two NBA starters against each other in Roundfield and Lonnie Shelton of the Knicks,Supersonics,Cleveland,etc |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 18, 2023 11:46:47 GMT -8
No. You only got a third game, if you won the first one. Oregon State beat Middle Tennessee State by 11, lost to Indiana by 10, and then lost to Central Michigan by a point in the Mideast Third Place Game. Central Michigan's win was against Georgetown in Tuscaloosa. Kentucky eat Central Michigan and then beat Indiana in the Elite Eight. Kentucky lost to Pac-8 Champion UCLA in the Championship Game. Central Michigan had the great Dan Roundfield of the Hawks. Two NBA starters against each other in Roundfield and Lonnie Shelton of the Knicks,Supersonics,Cleveland,etc Central Michigan also had two other NBA starters in Jim McElroy and Ben Poquette. McElroy (14), Poquette (50), and Roundfield's (32) numbers are all retired at Central Michigan. Roundfield seemed like the best basketball player of the four, but Shelton, I believe, is the only one with a ring. |
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Post by qbeaver on Mar 18, 2023 11:50:47 GMT -8
Central Michigan had the great Dan Roundfield of the Hawks. Two NBA starters against each other in Roundfield and Lonnie Shelton of the Knicks,Supersonics,Cleveland,etc Central Michigan also had two other NBA starters in Jim McElroy and Ben Poquette. McElroy (14), Poquette (50), and Roundfield's (32) numbers are all retired at Central Michigan. Roundfield seemed like the best basketball player of the four, but Shelton, I believe, is the only one with a ring. I saw that. Roundfield was the one I saw play a lot,because the games on TBS with the Hawks were on all the time. Roundfield,Tree Rollins,Doc Rivers,Mike Glenn,etc |
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