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Post by beavheart on Mar 5, 2023 10:50:04 GMT -8
Another thing that I keep coming back to is that Pac12 and Big12 are hastening both our own demise as we compete against each other for legitimacy. Possibly the only real option that we have to keep up with the SEC and Big10 in any real way is to give up the slap fight and this fool's errand to find the next best G5 school, and simply join together.
BigPac West - Cal, UW, WSU, uo, OSU, Stanford, UA, ASU, Utah
BigPac East - Colorado, UK, KSU, ISU, Okie St, TX Tech, Baylor, TCU, WV
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 5, 2023 10:58:07 GMT -8
I just don't see caving to uo and UW and give them a bigger share.
I think maybe the league should consider awarding a bigger share of TV or Bowl game monies to teams based on PERFORMANCE. Have a base that everyone gets then bump it up based on Bowl or Playoff money brought in, probably tier the bowls so if two or more teams tie for a good bowl and one or two of them get bumped to a lower paying bowl they don't get screwed in relation to the team they tied in the regular season standings. Say, a base, then a base plus bowl appearance, then bump it up more for a playoff appearance. Im not sure if they do something along those lines already, if so they could change the formula a bit to reward producing wins.
Heck, Washington won only 4 football games in '21 and didn’t contribute any bowl money to the league coffers, why should they get a bigger piece of the pie than any team that
went bowling. I would assume fewer wins affected their games' TV positioning the latter half of the season as well, but I could be wrong there.
I just don't like the idea of pre-determining that any one or two schools deserve more than the rest.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 5, 2023 11:05:29 GMT -8
Another thing that I keep coming back to is that Pac12 and Big12 are hastening both our own demise as we compete against each other for legitimacy. Possibly the only real option that we have to keep up with the SEC and Big10 in any real way is to give up the slap fight and this fool's errand to find the next best G5 school, and simply join together. BigPac West - Cal, UW, WSU, uo, OSU, Stanford, UA, ASU, Utah BigPac East - Colorado, UK, KSU, ISU, Okie St, TX Tech, Baylor, TCU, WV If the NCAA were to allow yet 1 more game I think that could work well. Have a regional championship game followed by an East/West championship. Trying to pick the "best" of each region could be problematic otherwise, there might be plenty of years there might be multiple teams with the same record at the top of the region. |
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Post by beaverdude on Mar 5, 2023 11:28:43 GMT -8
When USC and UCLA officially become BIG members, should OSU, or any PAC-10 teams agree to play them in non-conference games, in football and basketball, in all sports? AC/DC said it best "For a fee I'm happy to be your backdoor man" They play in Corvallis and they pay for the privilege. The only way the Beavs should play at their place is for a mid 7 figure payday. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Mar 5, 2023 12:49:13 GMT -8
Oregon and Washington would be fine in the Big 10...its a top heavy conference with the best teams in the east. Oregon or UW would have won the west this year and then we'd hear Beaver fans complaining about how easy their schedule was. Also...if hole and UW play in Big 10, 3 of their conference games will be on the west coast. Which means they are only traveling to Big 10 country 3 or 4 times. And that literally could be against Indiana, Rutgers, and Nebraska. Oregon recruits better than most Big 10 teams...they would do about as well there as they do in Pac 10. The SEC thing is interesting, because they are considering going to nine games and balances scheduling (best teams play best teams and vice versa). Let's just say Nick Saban is not a fan, even though he does want a 9 game conference schedule. Texas and Oklahoma will do what they do. Texas has sucked for years..that is a culture issue a bit like USC. I don't think either will become the next Georgia or Alabama...but with right coaching...they certainly could. You could be right. I just have my doubts. I can easily imagine things going very differently for the ucks and huskies. Texas probably does have staying power, much like USC, just because of their locations. Oklahoma, not so much. Oklahoma as a state is no more desirable, populated, or otherwise a better metric in all of this than say, Missouri. Or Oregon for that matter. I'm not convinced that the Sooners are guaranteed to remain relevant. They could be the next Nebraska. I hope youre right but Oklahoma is about 100 miles from Texas and a 3 hour drive to Dallas. Its really no more remote than Arkansas or Alabama or Auburn or the Mississippi Schools. And way more football history and success than all those but Bama. My son's band plays in Nebraska tomorrow...I told him good luck with those backwoods football loving hillbillies in the middle of the country and watch out for beer bottles. But they played to a sold out house in Kansas last night so what do I know! |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Mar 5, 2023 12:53:06 GMT -8
When USC and UCLA officially become BIG members, should OSU, or any PAC-10 teams agree to play them in non-conference games, in football and basketball, in all sports? Nope. Freeze them out. I agree...collusion by all WC teams would be awesome. Unfortunately they are all whores and will take any decent offer they get from USC |
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Mar 5, 2023 13:04:03 GMT -8
A lot of B1G teams I'd rather see in Reser than the Johnny come lately's from L.A.
Go Beavs!!
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 5, 2023 13:28:11 GMT -8
Yep. I wonder how Missouri, and even Texas A&M feel about it. They have made more money. Their football programs have not prospered on the field. They have combined for ONE major bowl bid since joining the league in 2012. Except for the 2020 Covid season, and the 2012 season when it was playing with Big 12 recruits, A&M has lost four games in every season since joining the SEC. Missouri had good seasons in 2013 and 2014, with Big 12 recruits as its upperclassmen. It has not lost fewer than five games since and has losing or .500 records in 6 of its 8 seasons since 2014. Yes, sorry. I meant and should have said I wonder how the fans (includes boosters) feel about it. You’re right about money. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Mar 5, 2023 13:56:14 GMT -8
When USC and UCLA officially become BIG members, should OSU, or any PAC-10 teams agree to play them in non-conference games, in football and basketball, in all sports? I can’t find it on the webs, but my memory when Scott Barnes was asked if this will be the last time we play ‘SC before the game last year, his answer was’oh, we won’t be scheduling those guys in the future, that’s for sure.’ |
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Post by damnstraight on Mar 5, 2023 14:55:37 GMT -8
When USC and UCLA officially become BIG members, should OSU, or any PAC-10 teams agree to play them in non-conference games, in football and basketball, in all sports? I can’t find it on the webs, but my memory when Scott Barnes was asked if this will be the last time we play ‘SC before the game last year, his answer was’oh, we won’t be scheduling those guys in the future, that’s for sure.’ I hope that is the case. I say Efff Em...make them fly 2 or 3 timezones to get nonconference games..in all sports. Give them Nothing! |
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Post by seastape on Mar 5, 2023 22:13:16 GMT -8
I can’t find it on the webs, but my memory when Scott Barnes was asked if this will be the last time we play ‘SC before the game last year, his answer was’oh, we won’t be scheduling those guys in the future, that’s for sure.’ I hope that is the case. I say Efff Em...make them fly 2 or 3 timezones to get nonconference games..in all sports. Give them Nothing! I like the notion of thumbing our noses at the la schools, but they might present scheduling opportunities in the future that might earn OSU too much money to pass up. |
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Post by messi on Mar 6, 2023 9:10:34 GMT -8
I hope that is the case. I say Efff Em...make them fly 2 or 3 timezones to get nonconference games..in all sports. Give them Nothing! I like the notion of thumbing our noses at the la schools, but they might present scheduling opportunities in the future that might earn OSU too much money to pass up. I could see this happening once the athletic department has no one on the current payroll, and the football coaching staff has none of the current coaches or a player from the current team coaching them. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 6, 2023 10:04:13 GMT -8
I hope that is the case. I say Efff Em...make them fly 2 or 3 timezones to get nonconference games..in all sports. Give them Nothing! I like the notion of thumbing our noses at the la schools, but they might present scheduling opportunities in the future that might earn OSU too much money to pass up. Football will never come to Corvallis as part of a home-and-home. UCLA baseball, maybe, because Savage is a decent sort and certainly did not want to leave the Pac-12. But only on a h-and-h basis. And nothing ever with USC. Never, ever. |
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