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Post by grackle on Mar 3, 2023 8:31:34 GMT -8
....just beyond left field going to be demolished to make room for baseball/classroom facilities expansion?? Say it ain't so, but I fear it might be "historic" so it can't be touched.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 3, 2023 8:33:33 GMT -8
It's still in service to an extent.From what I remember it's still the main branch supply for campus as they didn't redo the steam supply system when they made the new plant by the rad center. Getting rid of it is pretty expensive and there's safety problems with building inhabited buildings over 100+ year old steam infrastructure.
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Post by elwood on Mar 3, 2023 10:18:36 GMT -8
I’m not aware of any baseball/classroom facilities going where the steam plant is located. Are you talking about the new batting cages? The batting cages are supposed to include weight room and meeting rooms? With that being said, they have demolished some of the steam plant. There used to be a huge smoke stack. They also removed a lot of the maintenance campus facilities garage to build the new Performance Arts and Education building. While I don’t think that part was historic, it was an eye sore and happy it has been relocated.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 3, 2023 11:32:18 GMT -8
....just beyond left field going to be demolished to make room for baseball/classroom facilities expansion?? Say it ain't so, but I fear it might be "historic" so it can't be touched. It needs to be repurposed, it would be a perfect volleyball facility. Just need someone to donate about $30-40 million to cover the cost. Buildings that are "historic" are repurposed/touched/renovated all the time, prime examples being Education, Fairbanks, Apperson halls and the MU. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 3, 2023 12:54:08 GMT -8
....just beyond left field going to be demolished to make room for baseball/classroom facilities expansion?? Say it ain't so, but I fear it might be "historic" so it can't be touched. It needs to be repurposed, it would be a perfect volleyball facility. Just need someone to donate about $30-40 million to cover the cost. Buildings that are "historic" are repurposed/touched/renovated all the time, prime examples being Education, Fairbanks, Apperson halls and the MU. It would be outrageously expensive to refurbish. Just being it to code would cost more than a new building. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 3, 2023 13:03:04 GMT -8
....just beyond left field going to be demolished to make room for baseball/classroom facilities expansion?? Say it ain't so, but I fear it might be "historic" so it can't be touched. The heat plant is historic, so it cannot be touched. A $48 million bid was awarded a couple of months ago to repurpose at least portion of the facility to classroom facilities. The heat plant was still working in some capacity as of September 2021. I am not 100% sure, if that is still the case, though. |
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Post by beaverbeliever on Mar 3, 2023 14:01:04 GMT -8
I know a design meeting with the architectural and consulting engineering team took place this week regarding the steam plant remodel. It's also going to include some exterior refurbishment of McAlexander Fieldhouse.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 3, 2023 14:23:19 GMT -8
....just beyond left field going to be demolished to make room for baseball/classroom facilities expansion?? Say it ain't so, but I fear it might be "historic" so it can't be touched. The heat plant is historic, so it cannot be touched. A $48 million bid was awarded a couple of months ago to repurpose at least portion of the facility to classroom facilities. The heat plant was still working in some capacity as of September 2021. I am not 100% sure, if that is still the case, though. Not true. Historic buildings can be razed, or totally repurposed. If there is adaptive reuse instead of demolition, certain guidelines must be followed, especially with the outside appearance. That's why the fire escape stairwell on the south side of Waldo Hall looks exactly like the original construction. I thought I had read someplace about it being repurposed. If so, great news. No loss of greenspace on campus. Glad to hear McAlexander will be getting some attention. The removal of the maintenance sheds for the fine arts building construction really showed how bad the east side looked. It also showed how bad the steam plant looks, especially the corrugated steel add-on on the south end. . |
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Post by beaverbeliever on Mar 3, 2023 15:11:05 GMT -8
Also, forgot to add that I believe the heat plant is being remodeled into a physics building, and they are looking to add a basement level (obviously a big feasibility question for the structural engineers).
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Post by jdogge on Mar 3, 2023 15:11:07 GMT -8
It needs to be repurposed, it would be a perfect volleyball facility. Just need someone to donate about $30-40 million to cover the cost. Buildings that are "historic" are repurposed/touched/renovated all the time, prime examples being Education, Fairbanks, Apperson halls and the MU. It would be outrageously expensive to refurbish. Just being it to code would cost more than a new building. Not to mention -- the place is likely saturated with asbestos. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 3, 2023 17:36:17 GMT -8
Historic building saving is pretty silly. We act like everything over 100 years old is vital history but it's pretty ridiculous. We are saving buildings that are old enough to have real degradation that we're never close to meeting today's codes even at their best. It's all well and good until we have a code level event and a bunch of people get killed by unsafe structures. It's less of an issue on the west coast but on the east coast and Midwest it's getting seriously dangerous. The south is a bit safer just because it's been tested by hurricanes fairly often.
From a worldly perspective a 100 year building isnt even old.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 3, 2023 20:12:57 GMT -8
Historic building saving is pretty silly. We act like everything over 100 years old is vital history but it's pretty ridiculous. We are saving buildings that are old enough to have real degradation that we're never close to meeting today's codes even at their best. It's all well and good until we have a code level event and a bunch of people get killed by unsafe structures. It's less of an issue on the west coast but on the east coast and Midwest it's getting seriously dangerous. The south is a bit safer just because it's been tested by hurricanes fairly often. From a worldly perspective a 100 year building isnt even old. The buildings are rebuilt to current seismic code. Saving at least two full walls expedites the permitting process because it it not considered a new structure. Apperson and Education halls were completely gutted and rebuilt to current code, but their historic skins were saved, making for a much more visually pleasing building and preserving 100-year history and part of the university's storied past. The power plant is part of the university's past. If the outer shell can be saved, it should be, by all means. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 3, 2023 20:19:55 GMT -8
Historic building saving is pretty silly. We act like everything over 100 years old is vital history but it's pretty ridiculous. We are saving buildings that are old enough to have real degradation that we're never close to meeting today's codes even at their best. It's all well and good until we have a code level event and a bunch of people get killed by unsafe structures. It's less of an issue on the west coast but on the east coast and Midwest it's getting seriously dangerous. The south is a bit safer just because it's been tested by hurricanes fairly often. From a worldly perspective a 100 year building isnt even old. The buildings are rebuilt to current seismic code. Saving at least two full walls expedites the permitting process because it it not considered a new structure. Apperson and Education halls were completely gutted and rebuilt to current code, but their historic skins were saved, making for a much more visually pleasing building and preserving 100-year history and part of the university's storied past. The power plant is part of the university's past. If the outer shell can be saved, it should be, by all means. Yeahh...but we could probably buy out Tinkles contract for the price difference. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 3, 2023 20:36:36 GMT -8
The buildings are rebuilt to current seismic code. Saving at least two full walls expedites the permitting process because it it not considered a new structure. Apperson and Education halls were completely gutted and rebuilt to current code, but their historic skins were saved, making for a much more visually pleasing building and preserving 100-year history and part of the university's storied past. The power plant is part of the university's past. If the outer shell can be saved, it should be, by all means. Yeahh...but we could probably buy out Tinkles contract for the price difference. So you think the budget for academic buildings has anything to do with the athletic budget? |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Mar 3, 2023 20:48:44 GMT -8
Yeahh...but we could probably buy out Tinkles contract for the price difference. So you think the budget for academic buildings has anything to do with the athletic budget? it was hyperbole ya rabble rouser. |
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