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Post by chinmusic on Feb 15, 2023 7:41:36 GMT -8
The messaging from the PAC-12 headquarters is the schools are unified and negotiations are proceeding nicely. The opinion of several astute baseball writers from The Athletic and other locales is somewhat different.
It has now been 7 months since USC and UCLA announced their intent to bolt the PAC for greener pastures in the B1G. For the PAC, no expansion and no media deal, while the BIG-12 was expanding and putting together a lucrative media package for their member schools.! One writer suggests that George has the cart before the Horse. Kliavkoff has stated there will be no expansion until a media deal is in place, but the writer says George is a little short of school inventory and needs to come to the table with a minimum 12 team conference to appeal to the media outlets he is courting. In other words, expansion comes first.
SDSU and SMU appear to be the primary targets for PAC expansion (or replacement if you choose). It is estimated there will have to be multiple media partners (led by Amazon) involved since half of the content will be streaming. George is now being compared to Scott in terms of "over-promising" the schools revenue he won't be able to deliver. According to their sources, the writers have mentioned $40m per school annually is his asking price but even parceling it out, he will be lucky to get close to $30m.
What is the truth? I guess it comes down to who do you believe, George or the baseball writers?
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Post by qbeaver on Feb 15, 2023 9:21:31 GMT -8
The Big 8 re-upped with the same media people. That is much easier than deciding who to sign with and how much of your content will be part of a streaming service. To compare Scott to George Kliavkoff is non sense imo. All he has said is the conference remaining 10 teams are still united. He has indicated the conference should get a deal better than the Big 8. I think so too. No one on the inside has been quoted at all...it's all speculation.
I've seen some speculation some of the schools in the PAC-10 should leave and go to the Big 8 or Big 10. The Big 10 doesn't want any of those schools,or it's not an upgrade to go to the Big 8 on many levels. I'm ready for this to be done,and I believe the conference will do just fine financially. Don't believe everything you read...
Adding SDS and SMU is the right move imo opinion for the strength of the conference. The Dallas/Ft.Worth market,and the Southern California market is much coveted for the conference. Recruiting and number of television sets is important to the conference $$$. SMU is a small piece of the Dallas market. SMU has spent 500 million over the last 10 years on athletic facilitiesand SDS has a new stadium that is expandable. They are stepping up.
All this being said,I think we know something firm in the next month about the television contract. Since very few people on the inside are talking including George K,all we have is speculation. The conference has done a great job on the field to step up...6 top 25 teams last year in Football,which is what this contract is about. Expect the same in 2023.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 15, 2023 13:31:17 GMT -8
The Big 12 has no deal. Oklahoma and Texas are doing everything that they can to thwart the new deal to try and get the Big 12 to waive some or all of that $100 million that would be owed back to the conference.
As for contract and expansion, you are treating it as an either/or. No, you need to do both together at the same time. You need to expand with an idea of what the contract will look like, if you expand. But you need to know that the new schools are on board before you sign them up. You also need to vet them, and this is what George K. looks like he is doing.
I also still think that the Pac-12 may be using Oklahoma and Texas machinations to maybe turn the tables on the Big 12. The Pac-12 can add two this next year and maybe add one or two Big 12 teams the year after.
There is no rush to this. Take your time, and do it right. Everyone just needs to remain calm.
The Big 12 is in a terrible way right now. The Pac-12 has a lot more pros and fewer cons. The universities just need to not blink here.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Feb 15, 2023 19:51:46 GMT -8
Believe OU and UT agreed to pay the $50MM each to leave Big whatever and go to SEC in 2024
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 15, 2023 21:11:03 GMT -8
Believe OU and UT agreed to pay the $50MM each to leave Big whatever and go to SEC in 2024 Yeah, things are very fluid, and I missed that information.
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