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Post by lebaneaver on Feb 15, 2023 6:22:23 GMT -8
When are “they” going to break ground on the new justice building, on HWY 20, north o’ town? That endeavor is gonna leave a mark.
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 15, 2023 8:25:43 GMT -8
When are “they” going to break ground on the new justice building, on HWY 20, north o’ town? That endeavor is gonna leave a mark. The $110 million bond measure goes to the voters in May. We'll see if it passes. Historically, the only bond measures that we haven't passed are ones that include a new jail. This one goes towards a new jail, new courthouse, new justice center, etc. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Feb 15, 2023 8:41:36 GMT -8
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 15, 2023 9:11:12 GMT -8
"Remodel" at $1,077 per square foot ($43 million total). This is the insanity that we have to deal with in Corvallis. What kind of remodel costs that much? |
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Post by beavs6 on Feb 15, 2023 12:11:00 GMT -8
Well. It IS a privilege to live in Corvallis!
(too soon?😎)
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Post by spudbeaver on Feb 15, 2023 12:38:47 GMT -8
"Remodel" at $1,077 per square foot ($43 million total). This is the insanity that we have to deal with in Corvallis. What kind of remodel costs that much? Prevailing wage for one. Industrial finishes and furnishings are expensive. They always design them with curves, lots of corners. But American requirements. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 15, 2023 13:36:20 GMT -8
"Remodel" at $1,077 per square foot ($43 million total). This is the insanity that we have to deal with in Corvallis. What kind of remodel costs that much? Prevailing wage for one. Industrial finishes and furnishings are expensive. They always design them with curves, lots of corners. But American requirements. This is a remodel of a concrete building. I get prevailing wages, but it shouldn't cost that much. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 15, 2023 13:46:11 GMT -8
"Remodel" at $1,077 per square foot ($43 million total). This is the insanity that we have to deal with in Corvallis. What kind of remodel costs that much? A data center remodel? If they are updating anything related to MEV and/or telecomm or anything along those lines, it should cost that much on the low side. I am not going to dig into this to figure out what the actual deal is, but, unless it is like a bathroom or kitchen face lift-style remodel, it is going to be expensive. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 15, 2023 14:10:25 GMT -8
"Remodel" at $1,077 per square foot ($43 million total). This is the insanity that we have to deal with in Corvallis. What kind of remodel costs that much? A data center remodel? If they are updating anything related to MEV and/or telecomm or anything along those lines, it should cost that much on the low side. I am not going to dig into this to figure out what the actual deal is, but, unless it is like a bathroom or kitchen face lift-style remodel, it is going to be expensive. I work with a lot of contractors in the area. The estimate is more than double what it should cost. |
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Post by beaverdude on Feb 15, 2023 15:27:35 GMT -8
A data center remodel? If they are updating anything related to MEV and/or telecomm or anything along those lines, it should cost that much on the low side. I am not going to dig into this to figure out what the actual deal is, but, unless it is like a bathroom or kitchen face lift-style remodel, it is going to be expensive. Who remodels data centers? Its a lot cheaper to move that stuff to a colo or re-engineer the workloads and move them to the cloud. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Feb 15, 2023 18:50:16 GMT -8
A data center remodel? If they are updating anything related to MEV and/or telecomm or anything along those lines, it should cost that much on the low side. I am not going to dig into this to figure out what the actual deal is, but, unless it is like a bathroom or kitchen face lift-style remodel, it is going to be expensive. I work with a lot of contractors in the area. The estimate is more than double what it should cost. I’m not familiar with the project, but if it is preliminary and that’s in the budgeting phase, it includes all the design, engineering, inspection, permits, govt waste, and more. That can account for much more than a reasonable person would think! |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 15, 2023 19:57:19 GMT -8
A data center remodel? If they are updating anything related to MEV and/or telecomm or anything along those lines, it should cost that much on the low side. I am not going to dig into this to figure out what the actual deal is, but, unless it is like a bathroom or kitchen face lift-style remodel, it is going to be expensive. I work with a lot of contractors in the area. The estimate is more than double what it should cost. Even a decent bathroom/kitchen remodel is $600-$700 per square foot. If you are going to go cheap, it's less, obviously. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 15, 2023 20:48:23 GMT -8
A data center remodel? If they are updating anything related to MEV and/or telecomm or anything along those lines, it should cost that much on the low side. I am not going to dig into this to figure out what the actual deal is, but, unless it is like a bathroom or kitchen face lift-style remodel, it is going to be expensive. Who remodels data centers? Its a lot cheaper to move that stuff to a colo or re-engineer the workloads and move them to the cloud. Some data centers cannot be moved. There are places that you can go in Arizona to find the original internet line that connects California and Texas, for example. But I am not going to pretend that I'm an expert in the why; I am saying that numbers that I have seen for a data center remodel are North of the numbers being discussed. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 16, 2023 6:03:03 GMT -8
I work with a lot of contractors in the area. The estimate is more than double what it should cost. Even a decent bathroom/kitchen remodel is $600-$700 per square foot. If you are going to go cheap, it's less, obviously. Maybe where you live. Not here it isn’t. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 16, 2023 6:05:21 GMT -8
I work with a lot of contractors in the area. The estimate is more than double what it should cost. I’m not familiar with the project, but if it is preliminary and that’s in the budgeting phase, it includes all the design, engineering, inspection, permits, govt waste, and more. That can account for much more than a reasonable person would think! It does include that, but you could build new for much less than that. |
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