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Oregon's WEAK schedule Sept 12, 2016 10:15:15 GMT -8

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Post by biggieorange on Sept 12, 2016 10:15:15 GMT -8

Sept 11, 2016 16:41:18 GMT -8 wilkyisdashiznit said:

Sept 11, 2016 14:46:48 GMT -8 gobeavs92 said:

I don't know how you're coming to the conclusion that Banker defenses handled teh Dux O better than other teams. If you're only looking at scores, then you might think that (even that isn't too convincing) but knowing the game and watching the Civil War games, I would completely disagree. The reason I don't even think the points paint the whole picture is that some of those games were over by halftime and the Ducks could have probably scored 80 in a couple of those games if they wanted to. They pretty much manhandled Banker's defenses. Banker defenses did well against the mid to late 90's Spread teams (like Erickson's offense) and some Pro Style. Actually in the "pros" he didn't do so hot, look at the records. In fact, Wyoming is probably the perfect type of offense (now) that Banker does well against.

Go Beavs!

Who needs facts, when you can spout biased nonsense? Am I right?

Your argument basically is that Oregon State' defense did not do better than much more talented defenses against Oregon's offense. This is completely wrong. You follow it up with a fall-back argument that, even if Oregon State's defense did quantifiably do better, that the games were over at halftime in games with Oregon State and somehow not in games with other teams. This is also completely wrong.

Teams that did worse than Banker's defense:

2009: Purdue, California, Washington State, Washington, Pete Carroll's USC, Harbaugh's Stanford, Erickson's Arizona State, and Arizona.
2010: New Mexico, Tennessee, Portland State, Erickson's Arizona State, Harbaugh's Stanford, Washington State, UCLA, Carroll's USC, Washington, and Arizona.
2011: Nevada, Missouri State, Arizona, and Stanford.
2012: Arkansas State, Tennessee Tech, RichRod's Arizona, Washington State, Washington, Colorado, USC, and California.
2013: Nicholls State, Virginia, Tennessee, California, Colorado, Washington, Washington State, UCLA, and Utah.
2014: South Dakota, Wyoming, California, Utah, Arizona, and Florida State.

Much more talented teams did much worse than Oregon State at stopping Oregon rather consistently.

Civil War score at halftime:

2009: Oregon State 23 - Oregon 21
2010: Oregon 16 - Oregon State 7 (Fake punt and the offense was too conservative in the second half.)
2011: Oregon 28 - Oregon State 7 (The Ducks' first team offense stayed in until 11:44 left in the fourth after going up 42-7.)
2012: Oregon 20 - Oregon State 10 (6 Oregon State turnovers. The Ducks' first team offense stayed in until 8:24 left in the fourth after going up 48-17.)
2013: 17-17 tie.
2014: Oregon 30 - Oregon State 3 (The Ducks' first team offense stayed in until 5:00 left in the fourth after going up 47-17.)

Oregon is filled with a bunch of classless morons. They will always pour it on Oregon State, if they can. Always. They will always try to pour it on Oregon State over other teams. Always. The fact is that Oregon State always takes Oregon's best shot and generally does better than several more-talented teams. I will be curious to see what Banker with "more talent" can do against Oregon this year.

I think we will see Riley call a game like he PREFERS to do, look a back at what he typically did ala 2007-9. Pound the ball, play defense, don't turn it over. He is going to have his oline try and wear down the front seven of the ducks then take advantage once the Oregon secondary gets out of position. It is pretty straight forward, they have a signifigant advantage, Oregon won't hold them in the low 30's IMHO.

I think the real question will be, is how does Oregon's young Oline handle Nebraska dline. Neb has talent in the front 7, but what I saw made some tactical errors (particularlyfrom LB), which alludes to the Banker "complicated system" we always saw.

Oregon's WEAK schedule Sept 12, 2016 13:15:59 GMT -8

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Post by blackbug on Sept 12, 2016 13:15:59 GMT -8

Sept 11, 2016 14:46:48 GMT -8 gobeavs92 said:

Sept 11, 2016 14:23:05 GMT -8 drunkandstoopidbeav said:

For the most part, Banker led teams handled the dux spread better than most of the rest of the defenses in the Pac once a person actually looks up how everyone did against them, just came up short far too often like everyone else. I think the dux will come up short against Nebraska this year, against several teams in the Pac as well.

I don't know how you're coming to the conclusion that Banker defenses handled the Dux O better than other teams. If you're only looking at scores, then you might think that (even that isn't too convincing) but knowing the game and watching the Civil War games, I would completely disagree. The reason I don't even think the points paint the whole picture is that some of those games were over by halftime and the Ducks could have probably scored 80 in a couple of those games if they wanted to. They pretty much manhandled Banker's defenses. Banker defenses did well against the mid to late 90's Spread teams (like Erickson's offense) and some Pro Style. Actually in the "pros" he didn't do so hot, look at the records. In fact, Wyoming is probably the perfect type of offense (now) that Banker does well against.

Go Beavs!

Totally agree gobeavs92. Riley led team were never designed to outscore opponents. The ball control huddle offense purpose was 2 part to score in an organized fashion and control the game tempo allowing the defense to keep the opposing team under 30. This formula worked quite often for them as they had a history of keeping opponents well below their average for the season. The point is, the same is not true for Oregon, as far as keeping them below their average. The data is there that Banker defense struggled against Oregon. Part of the reason for the data is the success against other teams defensively.