Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 22, 2023 5:55:14 GMT -8
Starts in the linked video around 7:45:
Thought Graves made a few interesting points. Described the rivalry as "different" (I'm assuming he meant compared to the Ionescu, Pivec, Hebard, etc. years) now. I think it's probably the same for a lot of fans -- who don't like losing to one another. Said it still probably means a lot to Scott, who, as Graves alluded to, has orange in his blood, but I think there's a few reasons it may not feel the same.
1. Mark Campbell leaving UO. There was a time when he had recruited the majority of players on both teams and was ultimately responsible for a large number of the players that he had heavily recruited at OSU going to UO. I think this definitely heightened the rivalry in a way.
2. A decent number of players had been recruited by both teams. I believe we were runner up for Sabally and Hebard, heavily recruited Ionescu (and I think a few others like McGwire, Campisano, etc.), and I believe got Boley on a visit. Given that we had a lot of PNW players over those years you'd think Oregon at least showed little interest in them at some point. I don't think we heavily recruited anyone on their current roster (maybe Paopao?) and don't believe anyone on our roster besides maybe Timea was highly recruited by UO.
3. UO has very few players from PAC-12 footprint. Really just Basham and Paopao. OSU on the other hand has two starters from Oregon, one from Washington, and one from both WA and CA. Plus two more from Utah and Colorado.
4. Neither team is quite as relevant nationally as they were during the Ionescu years. It was pretty consistently a top-25 battle and even top-10 at times.
Thought Graves made a few interesting points. Described the rivalry as "different" (I'm assuming he meant compared to the Ionescu, Pivec, Hebard, etc. years) now. I think it's probably the same for a lot of fans -- who don't like losing to one another. Said it still probably means a lot to Scott, who, as Graves alluded to, has orange in his blood, but I think there's a few reasons it may not feel the same.
1. Mark Campbell leaving UO. There was a time when he had recruited the majority of players on both teams and was ultimately responsible for a large number of the players that he had heavily recruited at OSU going to UO. I think this definitely heightened the rivalry in a way.
2. A decent number of players had been recruited by both teams. I believe we were runner up for Sabally and Hebard, heavily recruited Ionescu (and I think a few others like McGwire, Campisano, etc.), and I believe got Boley on a visit. Given that we had a lot of PNW players over those years you'd think Oregon at least showed little interest in them at some point. I don't think we heavily recruited anyone on their current roster (maybe Paopao?) and don't believe anyone on our roster besides maybe Timea was highly recruited by UO.
3. UO has very few players from PAC-12 footprint. Really just Basham and Paopao. OSU on the other hand has two starters from Oregon, one from Washington, and one from both WA and CA. Plus two more from Utah and Colorado.
4. Neither team is quite as relevant nationally as they were during the Ionescu years. It was pretty consistently a top-25 battle and even top-10 at times.
