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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 4, 2023 7:15:44 GMT -8
Woah
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Post by beavs6 on Jan 4, 2023 9:28:44 GMT -8
Man, #19 is a big kid too.
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Post by vhalum92 on Jan 4, 2023 9:33:21 GMT -8
Great find. Thanks for posting.
He is looking real good. A little late or behind on some throws.. probably adjusting to the speed of his WR.
Love that he is throwing into some tight windows with accuracy!
Looks very comfortable on the move as well.
Exciting times in Corvallis to have this guy coming to campus.
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Post by bvrbred on Jan 4, 2023 9:52:06 GMT -8
Interesting throwing style. Very compact motion with the ball held low through the motion. More of a 3/4 delivery than straight overhand (like Penix). As a result he doesn't have to roll his head over to the side to get it out of the way.
Also, he tends to hold his hand under the ball during the delivery and then get a lot of wrist snap into it. Kind of a 50s style (Tittle, Eddie LeBaron). Difference is his motion is way more compact than those guys. With that throwing style a good torso turn through the motion is essential. If you look at his earlier video, which I believe was made last summer after he committed, he is now doing a lot better job of it.
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Post by 86BEAVER on Jan 4, 2023 15:29:42 GMT -8
Hope he has time to put some meat on those skinny little twigs he uses for legs. Looks like they would snap in a stiff wind. Good throws though.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 4, 2023 17:02:50 GMT -8
Hope he has time to put some meat on those skinny little twigs he uses for legs. Looks like they would snap in a stiff wind. Good throws though. Not as skinny as they look. Dudes almost 6'6 in high school. |
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Post by seastape on Jan 4, 2023 21:58:06 GMT -8
Question for you folks who know far more than I do about football:
Is there a typical timeline for a QB to adjust to the speed of the college game? I agree that Chiles looked a little behind on some of his throws.
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Post by vhalum92 on Jan 5, 2023 9:15:17 GMT -8
I think every player adjusts to a new level of competition and speed at a different rate... and I don't think there is a way to measure it or if there is.... no one is compiling a database of the data.
Sorry.
In my humble opinion it is a combination of intelligence and speed at which a person processes the visual information in front of them.
This can be offset by certain schemes that simplify the reads. For example when you see us motion or shift pre snap, they are trying to get the defense to provide information to the QB and lineman about what coverage and line scheme has been called.
Maybe someone has a better answer but having a true freshman start and have success is rare. Redshirt Freshman with the tools is much more the norm.
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Post by qbeaver on Jan 5, 2023 9:39:52 GMT -8
Still slender. 6-4 195ish. Will have time to put on weight not having to play right away. Still 17 until October. Coming to campus next week starting school will allow him to be in a college weight program and training table.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 5, 2023 10:48:39 GMT -8
Question for you folks who know far more than I do about football: Is there a typical timeline for a QB to adjust to the speed of the college game? I agree that Chiles looked a little behind on some of his throws. There is some supreme freaks that can come in and start effectively after a fall and spring. Most guys are going to need atleast 2 years in a system and 6 starts before you are gonna know if they adjust. Again most guys won't hit close to their ceiling until their second year starting. The OC is a huge part of this too. The OC can absolutely overwhelm a huge talent or misuse them and they look like crap. They can also over simplify the game and make the offense to vanilla to be effective. |
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 5, 2023 14:58:03 GMT -8
Question for you folks who know far more than I do about football: Is there a typical timeline for a QB to adjust to the speed of the college game? I agree that Chiles looked a little behind on some of his throws. There is some supreme freaks that can come in and start effectively after a fall and spring. Most guys are going to need atleast 2 years in a system and 6 starts before you are gonna know if they adjust. Again most guys won't hit close to their ceiling until their second year starting. The OC is a huge part of this too. The OC can absolutely overwhelm a huge talent or misuse them and they look like crap. They can also over simplify the game and make the offense to vanilla to be effective. OT and I don't want to hijack the thread, but watching Michigan offense this past weekend - ugh, I just really hated it. I mean, they're a run-heavy offense that uses TEs, so I'm thinking, "That sounds like the Beavers." But, I don't know why I was really put off by their offense. I felt like I was watching a sophisticated HS offense rather than a major college offense. IDK. Sorry, your post about OCs reminded me of that. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 5, 2023 16:32:27 GMT -8
There is some supreme freaks that can come in and start effectively after a fall and spring. Most guys are going to need atleast 2 years in a system and 6 starts before you are gonna know if they adjust. Again most guys won't hit close to their ceiling until their second year starting. The OC is a huge part of this too. The OC can absolutely overwhelm a huge talent or misuse them and they look like crap. They can also over simplify the game and make the offense to vanilla to be effective. OT and I don't want to hijack the thread, but watching Michigan offense this past weekend - ugh, I just really hated it. I mean, they're a run-heavy offense that uses TEs, so I'm thinking, "That sounds like the Beavers." But, I don't know why I was really put off by their offense. I felt like I was watching a sophisticated HS offense rather than a major college offense. IDK. Sorry, your post about OCs reminded me of that. I totally see that too. I think it's cause they are really reliant on big plays. OSU is a meat grinder but Michigan will have two negative plays and a miracle 70 yard TD. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on Jan 6, 2023 15:35:34 GMT -8
Question for you folks who know far more than I do about football: Is there a typical timeline for a QB to adjust to the speed of the college game? I agree that Chiles looked a little behind on some of his throws. Keep in mind he's throwing to guys he's never played/practiced with before. There's a reason why QBs and receivers rep routes over and over again and then rep them some more. What stood out to me was not a single missed throw or drop. He also, on a few throws, placed the ball perfectly over the near defenders head and out of reach of the deep defender where only the receiver could make a play on ball. On a TD throw he looked off defenders for a second and then came back to the skinny post to allow time for receiver to come out of his break into the open. Then threw a perfectly placed ball over lb's head for a td. That's next level. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 6, 2023 18:23:21 GMT -8
Question for you folks who know far more than I do about football: Is there a typical timeline for a QB to adjust to the speed of the college game? I agree that Chiles looked a little behind on some of his throws. Keep in mind he's throwing to guys he's never played/practiced with before. There's a reason why QBs and receivers rep routes over and over again and then rep them some more. What stood out to me was not a single missed throw or drop. He also, on a few throws, placed the ball perfectly over the near defenders head and out of reach of the deep defender where only the receiver could make a play on ball. On a TD throw he looked off defenders for a second and then came back to the skinny post to allow time for receiver to come out of his break into the open. Then threw a perfectly placed ball over lb's head for a td. That's next level. I can make a highlight film of myself and my wife with no missed throws or drops. I'm probably only good to 4-8 yards with occasional accuracy though. |
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Post by hometownbeaver on Jan 6, 2023 22:35:13 GMT -8
Keep in mind he's throwing to guys he's never played/practiced with before. There's a reason why QBs and receivers rep routes over and over again and then rep them some more. What stood out to me was not a single missed throw or drop. He also, on a few throws, placed the ball perfectly over the near defenders head and out of reach of the deep defender where only the receiver could make a play on ball. On a TD throw he looked off defenders for a second and then came back to the skinny post to allow time for receiver to come out of his break into the open. Then threw a perfectly placed ball over lb's head for a td. That's next level. I can make a highlight film of myself and my wife with no missed throws or drops. I'm probably only good to 4-8 yards with occasional accuracy though. was thinking the same thing it's a highlight reel not bloopers |
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