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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 16, 2022 13:53:24 GMT -8
There was a time not long ago that Texas and Oklahoma considered coming to the pac12 but the stupid arses in league leadership said no not because of the time zone but because the two schools wanted more than equal share. Now we look for schools like smu, sad. USC was the one that killed that deal IIRC People may have blamed USC, but, no, USC wanted what Oklahoma and Texas wanted. They wanted to all keep what they killed, no equal shares. It may have been that USC did not want Oklahoma and Texas to get more than they got. That may have happened. USC may have been using Oklahoma and Texas as leverage to try and get a better deal for themselves, because they rightly believed that they were getting screwed. What really galls me is that Oregon State was making more under the old keep what you kill Pac-10 contract but negotiated itself out of money and simultaneously negotiated UCLA and USC into leaving the conference. A lot of how the Pac-12 was set up was just plain stupid looking back on it all. It is not comparable in the least, but it reminds me of the Allies negotiating the Treaty of Versailles. We got a great deal but have set just awful things in motion that are going to come back to bite us in about 15 years.
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Post by easyheat on Dec 23, 2022 21:40:53 GMT -8
Mistakes were made and the member schools were not paying enough attention to business.
We had a grossly negligent commissioner followed by a a commissioner that has taken time to fully grasp the reality of the situation he's in.
Conference expansion was a two proposition race between the quick and the dead.
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Post by seastape on Dec 24, 2022 6:54:55 GMT -8
Mistakes were made and the member schools were not paying enough attention to business. We had a grossly negligent commissioner followed by a a commissioner that has taken time to fully grasp the reality of the situation he's in. Conference expansion was a two proposition race between the quick and the dead. I agree about Kliavkoff. I've seen comparisons between Kliavkoff and Brett Yormark, with people admiring Yormark's speed in getting a tv deal signed so quickly and belittling Kliavkoff's seeming delay. I don't know whether Yormark's speed was a good thing, we'll see, but I don't blame Kliavkoff for taking more time to assess and ensure that he explores all the options, especially after two of the biggest programs in the conference bailed.
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