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Post by beavaristotle on Nov 1, 2022 16:02:01 GMT -8
The letter he wrote to UCLA administration regarding their ill-advised move to the BIG 10. Great points delivered with passion. what do you know, Bill Walton saves the world. on a side note Walton once called the BIG 10 a bunch of truck stops.
“UCLA’S WRONG TURN”
All progress requires change… not all change is progress,
I’m Bill Walton,
I’m a California native, resident, engaged citizen, voter, and taxpayer,
I’m a product of California’s terrific public school systems,
I’m a proud UCLA alum,
I am not in favor of UCLA’s recent announced decision to leave the Pac-12 Conference of Champions,
nor their desire to join the Big 10,
I don’t like this attempted move,
I don’t support it,
I hope it does not happen,
UCLA is a public school that is supposed to serve the interests of the State of California,
UCLA is one of the world’s greatest schools, and brands,
UCLA represents the best of what life has been, and can, could and should be,
UCLA has been as great and as important a part of my life as anything, ever,
I don’t believe that joining the Big 10 is in the best interest of UCLA, its students, its athletes, its alumni, its fans, the rest of the UC system, the State of California, or the world at large,
some of the many reasons why I am opposed to UCLA’s attempted move to the Big 10 are, in no particular order,
• the negative impact on the health, both physical and mental, of UCLA’s student-athletes,
the exponential increase in travel on UCLA’s student-athletes will hurt them physically, mentally, and in their overall lives,
• the negative impact of the excessive travel will extend to families, friends, fans, alumni and everyone else,
• the increased costs of joining the Big 10 will negate the projected increased revenue assumptions of this proposed move,
• this proposed move to the Big 10 is contrary to UCLA’s and the entire UC System’s stated and professed environmental sustainability goals,
• this proposed move to the Big 10 has serious negative implications and ramifications for the University of California, Berkeley,
and flies in the face of the supposed team concept that has always been a part of the California Dream, plan and business model,
• this proposed move to the Big 10, is all about football, and money,
• what about all the other 24 sports and 600+student-athletes at UCLA, who are responsible for 99+% of UCLA’s National Championships,
• how many of these “others” are represented and willing participants in this proposed deal,
I went to UCLA — gladly, willingly, and proudly,
it was my dream,
that dream never included the Big 10,
I have spoken to no one, other than the highest-level directors of athletics at UCLA, who think that this proposed move to the Big 10 is a good idea,
every argument made by these senior AD’s and why they like it, is about money,
these same proponents of moving to the Big 10, are the first people I have ever encountered in my life,
who have claimed economic hardship and limitations in Los Angeles,
and that the solution lies in the Midwest,
I have made my feelings known, privately, to the powers that be in the State of California, including the UC’s Board of Regents,
my hope and dream is that this proposed move by UCLA, my alma mater, will be rescinded,
Bill Walton,
UCLA 1974
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 1, 2022 16:13:59 GMT -8
God bless him. Screw SC.
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Post by ag87 on Nov 2, 2022 0:17:37 GMT -8
"These same proponents of moving to the Big10 are the first people I have ever encountered in my life who have claimed economic hardships and limitations in Los Angeles and that the solution lies in the midwest"
That is a great line and powerful thought
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Post by speakthetruth on Nov 2, 2022 7:30:52 GMT -8
Not scientific by any means but I talked to two groups of usc fans as they walked by our tailgate. One group, a couple and son from Tahoe and the other four 30 year olds from los Angeles area neither were in favor of the usc decision,
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Post by seastape on Nov 2, 2022 8:21:35 GMT -8
I've only talked to one guy from UCLA in person, who didn't like the move. He said that he was disappointed.
I've seen a lot of people on message boards who are in favor of the decision, but I take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by irimi on Nov 2, 2022 8:29:18 GMT -8
I've only talked to one guy from UCLA in person, who didn't like the move. He said that he was disappointed. I've seen a lot of people on message boards who are in favor of the decision, but I take it with a grain of salt. Folks on message boards are nuts.
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Post by seastape on Nov 2, 2022 8:40:35 GMT -8
I've only talked to one guy from UCLA in person, who didn't like the move. He said that he was disappointed. I've seen a lot of people on message boards who are in favor of the decision, but I take it with a grain of salt. Folks on message boards are nuts. Oops...Did I just unintentionally insult every single person on these boards?
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Post by irimi on Nov 2, 2022 8:42:40 GMT -8
I think the point about all the other sports is an important one. No one doubts that the football team can find the cash to fly across the country, given the few games it plays. Maybe basketball would get the cash, too, but the schedule of games would be much harder, since there are a lot more games. But what about volleyball or golf or even less popular sports?
I’m interested to see how this plays out. I think if I wanted to play in the Big Ten, I would live there. There are enough schools that excel at sports enough that attending USC and playing a sport in the Midwest would become a terrible burden. I could see recruits actually avoiding USC because of the travel. Why go to USC if you can play at Michigan State or better? Less travel.
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Post by rob85 on Nov 2, 2022 10:19:43 GMT -8
Having experienced part of a Michigan winter, I can understand why SoCal would look good to an 18yo. What's a few plane trips?
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Post by beavaristotle on Nov 2, 2022 10:46:00 GMT -8
Seen stories of spring sports athletes transferring out of usc and ucla because they don’t want to play games in east Lansing or Madison in March and April. I think it’s really going hurt the baseball programs. Will coach Savage stay at UCLA or find a nice WCC or Big West job.
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Post by irimi on Nov 2, 2022 11:21:16 GMT -8
Folks on message boards are nuts. Oops...Did I just unintentionally insult every single person on these boards? Aren't we all a little bit nuts? ;-)
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Post by irimi on Nov 2, 2022 11:33:54 GMT -8
Having experienced part of a Michigan winter, I can understand why SoCal would look good to an 18yo. What's a few plane trips? In the case of basketball, for instance, they play a game at X university's home and then play X again in LA. This year, we see the Trojans at home and we play them in LA. Same is true for the other Pac 12 games. Once away, and once at home. That's 9 very long flights back and forth. And remember, a lot of those games are midweek. Tell me any kid is gonna love doing that. Academics will be shot to hell. And won't the team be exhausted? I expect it to backfire on them.
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Post by seastape on Nov 2, 2022 13:00:04 GMT -8
Having experienced part of a Michigan winter, I can understand why SoCal would look good to an 18yo. What's a few plane trips? In the case of basketball, for instance, they play a game at X university's home and then play X again in LA. This year, we see the Trojans at home and we play them in LA. Same is true for the other Pac 12 games. Once away, and once at home. That's 9 very long flights back and forth. And remember, a lot of those games are midweek. Tell me any kid is gonna love doing that. Academics will be shot to hell. And won't the team be exhausted? I expect it to backfire on them. Then there's the other sports in which the athletes have games mid-week, such as soccer, baseball, and softball just off the top of my head. The UCLA athletic director said that he had the student-athletes in mind when he made the decision to join the Big 10. It's tough to believe that. What about the non-revenue sports? Are SC and UCLA going to join a west coast league for those? I would think that, since those sports are a drain on athletic department budgets, I would not be enthused to have those schools in my conference without the revenue sports. And, to be frank, out of sheer pettiness I would not want USC or UCLA in the Pac 10 for any sports if they were not in it for the revenue sports. It might also be incentive for those schools to think about re-joining the Pac in the future if it turns out that the travel demands of being in the Big 10 is a strain on budgets (doubt it) and/or the student-athletes (expect it).
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 2, 2022 13:40:41 GMT -8
In the case of basketball, for instance, they play a game at X university's home and then play X again in LA. This year, we see the Trojans at home and we play them in LA. Same is true for the other Pac 12 games. Once away, and once at home. That's 9 very long flights back and forth. And remember, a lot of those games are midweek. Tell me any kid is gonna love doing that. Academics will be shot to hell. And won't the team be exhausted? I expect it to backfire on them. Then there's the other sports in which the athletes have games mid-week, such as soccer, baseball, and softball just off the top of my head. The UCLA athletic director said that he had the student-athletes in mind when he made the decision to join the Big 10. It's tough to believe that. What about the non-revenue sports? Are SC and UCLA going to join a west coast league for those? I would think that, since those sports are a drain on athletic department budgets, I would not be enthused to have those schools in my conference without the revenue sports. And, to be frank, out of sheer pettiness I would not want USC or UCLA in the Pac 10 for any sports if they were not in it for the revenue sports. It might also be incentive for those schools to think about re-joining the Pac in the future if it turns out that the travel demands of being in the Big 10 is a strain on budgets (doubt it) and/or the student-athletes (expect it). A lot of the athletes in major college sports are online only students. This is why it is not as a big of a deal as it used to be to have teams travel mid-week. A good majority of our baseball team last year were online only students.
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Post by beavs6 on Nov 2, 2022 13:58:51 GMT -8
Then there's the other sports in which the athletes have games mid-week, such as soccer, baseball, and softball just off the top of my head. The UCLA athletic director said that he had the student-athletes in mind when he made the decision to join the Big 10. It's tough to believe that. What about the non-revenue sports? Are SC and UCLA going to join a west coast league for those? I would think that, since those sports are a drain on athletic department budgets, I would not be enthused to have those schools in my conference without the revenue sports. And, to be frank, out of sheer pettiness I would not want USC or UCLA in the Pac 10 for any sports if they were not in it for the revenue sports. It might also be incentive for those schools to think about re-joining the Pac in the future if it turns out that the travel demands of being in the Big 10 is a strain on budgets (doubt it) and/or the student-athletes (expect it). A lot of the athletes in major college sports are online only students. This is why it is not as a big of a deal as it used to be to have teams travel mid-week. A good majority of our baseball team last year were online only students. No, no they are not. Maybe during their prospective sport's "in season" some are. But not a majority, all of the time, all 2, 3, 4 years whatever they attend.
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