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Post by beavheart on Sept 28, 2022 11:05:21 GMT -8
No question, this will be a tough game. Always is with these guys. Utes have had a lot of sunshine blown up their butts, and if these 2 are any indication there's basically no question who wins this game.
View from the other side seems to be - OSU is a small school, that is plucky, and lucky to be competitive because of all the things stacked against us. Our resurgence is fun to see, apparently. I guess we're just the little guy who's done good, but obviously won't last like the huge, awesome Utah program.
Huh? Who are these people? Hey Ute fan, you have no idea what you are talking about if you think this the first time OSU has been competitive. I don't know, but the perspective from Utah just seems a little whack to me. OSU discussion picks up around 14:00 min.
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Sept 28, 2022 11:20:35 GMT -8
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Post by beaverstever on Sept 28, 2022 11:20:35 GMT -8
I didn’t get that at all. They basically went with the betting line but said it would be a test. OSU indeed has not been great on the road, and so there’s some proving to do.
I did learn that Kuithe is out - I didn’t know he got hurt. He’s a huge loss, and was the guy that they’d always go to when yards got difficult. I think they are underestimating the impact of that loss, but we will see.
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Sept 28, 2022 11:44:58 GMT -8
Post by beavheart on Sept 28, 2022 11:44:58 GMT -8
I didn’t get that at all. They basically went with the betting line but said it would be a test. OSU indeed has not been great on the road, and so there’s some proving to do. I did learn that Kuithe is out - I didn’t know he got hurt. He’s a huge loss, and was the guy that they’d always go to when yards got difficult. I think they are underestimating the impact of that loss, but we will see. She literally said it's good for CFB when "small" programs like OSU are competitive. Or did you miss that?
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Post by bennyskid on Sept 28, 2022 12:02:46 GMT -8
In what way aren't we "small"? In the Pac, we're #11 out of 12 in pretty much every metric of athletic department size.
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Sept 28, 2022 12:10:38 GMT -8
Post by jdogge on Sept 28, 2022 12:10:38 GMT -8
No question, this will be a tough game. Always is with these guys. Utes have had a lot of sunshine blown up their butts, and if these 2 are any indication there's basically no question who wins this game. View from the other side seems to be - OSU is a small school, that is plucky, and lucky to be competitive because of all the things stacked against us. Our resurgence is fun to see, apparently. I guess we're just the little guy who's done good, but obviously won't last like the huge, awesome Utah program. Huh? Who are these people? Hey Ute fan, you have no idea what you are talking about if you think this the first time OSU has been competitive. I don't know, but the perspective from Utah just seems a little whack to me. OSU discussion picks up around 14:00 min. Well, we rank 9th in the Pac 12 in enrollment.
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Sept 28, 2022 12:16:16 GMT -8
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Post by beavheart on Sept 28, 2022 12:16:16 GMT -8
Anyway, I feel like we have a chance here. From what I've seen most people do recognize that OSU could have, and maybe should have beaten USC, and are on an upward trajectory. That said, Utah in SLC is a different animal so there's still a lot of unknowns here, but I think some of the concerns we have are growing a little stale.
A couple points people are bringing up,
OSU isn't the same team on the road as they are at home - Who isn't? Yes, the Beavs were way more competitive at home than on the road... last year. This year we've had one road game and won it against no slouch. I think a year ago we lose at Fresno St. The jury is still out on this team, but I think we will see a lot more consistency this year between road and home games. For one, our D has taken a big step forward, and that bodes well for being more consistent away from Reser.
OSU beat Utah last year, so they will be looking for revenge - Sure, I bet they are. We also replaced an ineffective coordinator since then, and our D is playing much better than a year ago. It seems like Utah expects to be playing the same team from last year. I hope they are.
I don't really know what to expect in this game, but I like our chances if we can pressure Rising. He can run, but I don't think he's as elusive as Williams. He just lost his #1 target so if we can make him hurry up it could really effect their offense. I do think OSU is a better overall team than last year, and I'm not sure if Utah is better than they were. They also don't have Britton Covey anymore, and that guy was money for them. Will it be enough to actually win in SLC?
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Post by beavheart on Sept 28, 2022 12:25:32 GMT -8
In what way aren't we "small"? In the Pac, we're #11 out of 12 in pretty much every metric of athletic department size. OSU is the last Pac12 school to win a NC in anything that matters. We might be in the lower half of the conference by metrics, but that hardly tells the whole story. OSU is neither a "small" program, nor is it "small time". Especially compared to Utah. They have had a nice run in football, but they aren't Alabama. This is not David v Goliath.
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Sept 28, 2022 12:26:36 GMT -8
Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Sept 28, 2022 12:26:36 GMT -8
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Sept 28, 2022 12:57:15 GMT -8
Post by Judge Smails on Sept 28, 2022 12:57:15 GMT -8
In what way aren't we "small"? In the Pac, we're #11 out of 12 in pretty much every metric of athletic department size. OSU is the last Pac12 school to win a NC in anything that matters. We might be in the lower half of the conference by metrics, but that hardly tells the whole story. OSU is neither a "small" program, nor is it "small time". Especially compared to Utah. They have had a nice run in football, but they aren't Alabama. This is not David v Goliath. While it matters a lot to us, college baseball is still not a sport that matters much nationally. USC was the last Pac12 school to win a NC in a sport that matters. There are still only two sports that matter nationwide.
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Sept 28, 2022 13:05:20 GMT -8
Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 28, 2022 13:05:20 GMT -8
No question, this will be a tough game. Always is with these guys. Utes have had a lot of sunshine blown up their butts, and if these 2 are any indication there's basically no question who wins this game. View from the other side seems to be - OSU is a small school, that is plucky, and lucky to be competitive because of all the things stacked against us. Our resurgence is fun to see, apparently. I guess we're just the little guy who's done good, but obviously won't last like the huge, awesome Utah program. Huh? Who are these people? Hey Ute fan, you have no idea what you are talking about if you think this the first time OSU has been competitive. I don't know, but the perspective from Utah just seems a little whack to me. OSU discussion picks up around 14:00 min. Well, we rank 9th in the Pac 12 in enrollment. That's only if you include online enrollment. Oregon State University is the sixth-largest university in the Pac-12. 1. Arizona State 2. Washington 3. Arizona 4. Washington State 5. Colorado 6. Oregon State 7. Utah 8. Oregon 9. Stanford 10. California 11. UCLA 12. USC
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Sept 28, 2022 13:08:24 GMT -8
Post by Judge Smails on Sept 28, 2022 13:08:24 GMT -8
Well, we rank 9th in the Pac 12 in enrollment. That's only if you include online enrollment. Oregon State University is the sixth-largest university in the Pac-12. 1. Arizona State 2. Washington 3. Arizona 4. Washington State 5. Colorado 6. Oregon State 7. Utah 8. Oregon 9. Stanford 10. California 11. UCLA 12. USCI would imagine they're referring to our smallness in relation to the success of our major sports programs, not our enrollment.
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Sept 28, 2022 13:10:50 GMT -8
Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 28, 2022 13:10:50 GMT -8
OSU is the last Pac12 school to win a NC in anything that matters. We might be in the lower half of the conference by metrics, but that hardly tells the whole story. OSU is neither a "small" program, nor is it "small time". Especially compared to Utah. They have had a nice run in football, but they aren't Alabama. This is not David v Goliath. While it matters a lot to us, college baseball is still not a sport that matters much nationally. USC was the last Pac12 school to win a NC in a sport that matters. There are still only two sports that matter nationwide. Baseball is the third in television viewership. I would not say that it does not matter. Stanford won a national championship in basketball just last year.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Sept 28, 2022 13:15:26 GMT -8
I will say, as someone with a very good friend who is a Ute, they definitely think they're on a different plane than us - and for a couple years that's certainly been true. I'd love to beat them again and bring them back to the norm.
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Post by beavheart on Sept 28, 2022 13:20:15 GMT -8
OSU is the last Pac12 school to win a NC in anything that matters. We might be in the lower half of the conference by metrics, but that hardly tells the whole story. OSU is neither a "small" program, nor is it "small time". Especially compared to Utah. They have had a nice run in football, but they aren't Alabama. This is not David v Goliath. While it matters a lot to us, college baseball is still not a sport that matters much nationally. USC was the last Pac12 school to win a NC in a sport that matters. There are still only two sports that matter nationwide. Maybe so, but we know a lot of folks in the SEC sure care about baseball. If I had to illustrate interest in a college sports I would say something like this, 1) Football 2) Football 3) Football 4) Men's Basketball 5) Baseball 6) Women's Bball ...a country mile 7) Softball Everything else
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Sept 28, 2022 13:45:31 GMT -8
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Post by william44 on Sept 28, 2022 13:45:31 GMT -8
This is a winnable game for us if we play very well. Last year the Fresno game would have been a loss. I think they have a great program in football . I know they are good at gymnastics. Better than we are. Basketball a push. Baseball our advantage. Soccer ours. Volleyball we still are poor. If their people feel a little better they just might be. Would love to beat them.
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