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Post by cake on Sept 12, 2022 11:52:17 GMT -8
Cleveland continues toward playoff slot (Sept. 11). Thanks Steven. Crushed. He looks like he's lost a lot of weight. Or at least replaced fat with muscle, he just looks different now. |
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Post by ricke71 on Sept 12, 2022 14:53:33 GMT -8
Help me out.
I'm trying to recall if there were any leadoff hitters in OSU baseball 21st Century history, that were better, as Lead-off hitters, than Kwan.
My feeble mind is drawing blanks. Thanks.
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 12, 2022 15:00:30 GMT -8
Help me out. I'm trying to recall if there were any leadoff hitters in OSU baseball 21st Century history, that were better, as Lead-off hitters, than Kwan. My feeble mind is drawing blanks. Thanks. Jacoby? |
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Post by cake on Sept 12, 2022 15:49:56 GMT -8
Help me out. I'm trying to recall if there were any leadoff hitters in OSU baseball 21st Century history, that were better, as Lead-off hitters, than Kwan. My feeble mind is drawing blanks. Thanks. Jacoby? Yeah. My s%#tty memory had Darwin Barney leading off that year, but just looked it up and Jacoby took over lead off after a few games.
Give it a few years, maybe Wade Meckler is in the mix? Hitting .432 in September.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 13, 2022 15:54:38 GMT -8
Yeah. My s%#tty memory had Darwin Barney leading off that year, but just looked it up and Jacoby took over lead off after a few games.
Give it a few years, maybe Wade Meckler is in the mix? Hitting .432 in September.
Meckler, fresh off of his ACL Championship, was promoted to San Jose. Fresno heads to San Jose tonight to play game one of a best-of-three Division Series for the North Division in the California League. And for someone who nobody's mentioned yet, Kai Murphy, who played for Oregon State, during the abbreviated 2020 season, was signed by the Padres and is playing at Lake Elsinore. Lake Elsinore is playing for the South Crown against the Inland Empire 66ers. Game one is tonight in San Bernardino. Unless somebody knows something different, that about covers the California League situation. |
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Post by beaverphd on Sept 14, 2022 15:06:43 GMT -8
Two recent Oregon State lead-off hitters: without cheating who would you pick?
Player A:
G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS GDP
66 328 268 81 93 23 3 2 32 12 4 53 49 0.347 0.456 0.478 0.933 0
Player B:
G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS GDP
66 316 256 60 91 8 6 2 41 14 6 50 18 0.356 0.463 0.457 0.920 6
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 14, 2022 16:26:19 GMT -8
Two recent Oregon State lead-off hitters: without cheating who would you pick? Player A: G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS GDP 66 328 268 81 93 23 3 2 32 12 4 53 49 0.347 0.456 0.478 0.933 0 Player B: G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS GDP 66 316 256 60 91 8 6 2 41 14 6 50 18 0.356 0.463 0.457 0.920 6 Really hard to say without HBP, IBB, and SFs. OBP is a more important stat than SLG, but the answer appears to be player A without additional information. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 14, 2022 17:00:15 GMT -8
The most important stat in baseball is runs scored. Therefore player A.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 14, 2022 17:05:35 GMT -8
The most important stat in baseball is runs scored. Therefore player A. But it is one of the least within a single player's control. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 14, 2022 17:11:30 GMT -8
Two recent Oregon State lead-off hitters: without cheating who would you pick? Player A: G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS GDP 66 328 268 81 93 23 3 2 32 12 4 53 49 0.347 0.456 0.478 0.933 0 Player B: G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS GDP 66 316 256 60 91 8 6 2 41 14 6 50 18 0.356 0.463 0.457 0.920 6 I note that Player A's BABIP is 40 points higher than Player B's BABIP. That tends to indicate that Player A is luckier than Player B, at least within that season. If you can sustain a .414 BABIP, you're literally the greatest hitter of the past 75 years. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 14, 2022 18:12:30 GMT -8
Two recent Oregon State lead-off hitters: without cheating who would you pick? Player A: G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS GDP 66 328 268 81 93 23 3 2 32 12 4 53 49 0.347 0.456 0.478 0.933 0 Player B: G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS GDP 66 316 256 60 91 8 6 2 41 14 6 50 18 0.356 0.463 0.457 0.920 6 I note that Player A's BABIP is 40 points higher than Player B's BABIP. That tends to indicate that Player A is luckier than Player B, at least within that season. If you can sustain a .414 BABIP, you're literally the greatest hitter of the past 75 years. I guess, if I am really looking at analytics, the answer is Player B, unless Player A can really sustain a 40-point higher BABIP. |
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Post by beaverphd on Sept 15, 2022 8:47:07 GMT -8
Player A is Wade Meckler last year and Player B is Steven Kwan 2018
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 15, 2022 9:45:21 GMT -8
Player A is Wade Meckler last year and Player B is Steven Kwan 2018 For Meckler to have 28 extra-base hits and only 32 RBIs illustrates how punchless the bottom 1/3 of our order was last year. Nobodywas ever on base for him to drive in. And his 26 2bs and 3bs help show why he scored so many more runs than Kwan, because he got on base at least one base closer to home almost twice as often as Steven. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 15, 2022 13:15:10 GMT -8
Player A is Wade Meckler last year and Player B is Steven Kwan 2018 Yeah, we know. That is how I was able to calculate BABIP. A .414 BABIP, though! Like, keep that up, and you are a first ballot Hall of Famer. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 15, 2022 13:24:15 GMT -8
Player A is Wade Meckler last year and Player B is Steven Kwan 2018 For Meckler to have 28 extra-base hits and only 32 RBIs illustrates how punchless the bottom 1/3 of our order was last year. Nobody was ever on base for him to drive in. And his 26 2bs and 3bs help show why he scored so many more runs than Kwan, because he got on base at least one base closer to home almost twice as often as Steven. But Meckler did not hit leadoff all year. He finished batting second, so that Forrester and Melton could flip-flop, which did not make any sense, given how 5-9 wound up. And Tim Hudson clinically silenced Oregon State's bats as a result. But that's another story altogether. Oh well. 2023! |
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