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Post by lebaneaver on Jul 16, 2022 9:13:59 GMT -8
…..with a spot o’ tea…… just joking about the tea…… I’ve been kinda/sorta rethinking my original disdain for those “traitors” who turned their selfish backs on the PGA. I suppose I understand their desire to play less rounds, in a different format, while gaining more control over their professional and private lives. If THAT is the motivation for their departure, I get it. The NFL begat the AFL, and then merged. The NBA begat the ABA, and then merged. My problem continues to be “where the money comes from,” I suppose, fist-pump and all. Maybe I’m wrong.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 16, 2022 16:51:04 GMT -8
The original AFL and ABA were almost totally filled with players who didn't get a chance in the established leagues.
Guys in the LIV went for the money. That's OK, but don't try to find other reasons for their defections. It was all about appearance money and the other cash, supplied by an arm of a corrupt government.
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Post by ag87 on Jul 16, 2022 17:43:20 GMT -8
The original AFL and ABA were almost totally filled with players who didn't get a chance in the established leagues. Guys in the LIV went for the money. That's OK, but don't try to find other reasons for their defections. It was all about appearance money and the other cash, supplied by an arm of a corrupt government. And the leagues were mostly in markets that the NFL and NBA had overlooked. AFL - Houston, Miami, Boston, Buffalo, Kansas City, San Diego, Denver, Cincinnati ABA - Louisville, Norfolk/Richmond, Charlotte/Greensboro/Raleigh, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Denver, Dallas, SaltLakeCity, Memphis. I've not followed the LIV at all but I know they did a weekend in North Plains. |
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Post by seastape on Jul 16, 2022 20:22:24 GMT -8
The original AFL and ABA were almost totally filled with players who didn't get a chance in the established leagues. Guys in the LIV went for the money. That's OK, but don't try to find other reasons for their defections. It was all about appearance money and the other cash, supplied by an arm of a corrupt government. And the leagues were mostly in markets that the NFL and NBA had overlooked. AFL - Houston, Miami, Boston, Buffalo, Kansas City, San Diego, Denver, Cincinnati ABA - Louisville, Norfolk/Richmond, Charlotte/Greensboro/Raleigh, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Denver, Dallas, SaltLakeCity, Memphis. I've not followed the LIV at all but I know they did a weekend in North Plains. Thanks for the informative post! For my age, I could not imagine pro (NFL level) football being absent from every city you listed except, of course, San Diego. Same with a lot of the ABA cities, but not all. I remember when the Jazz moved to Salt Lake and in my teenage years thought it strange that they kept the name "Jazz." |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 16, 2022 21:50:29 GMT -8
…..with a spot o’ tea…… just joking about the tea…… I’ve been kinda/sorta rethinking my original disdain for those “traitors” who turned their selfish backs on the PGA. I suppose I understand their desire to play less rounds, in a different format, while gaining more control over their professional and private lives. If THAT is the motivation for their departure, I get it. The NFL begat the AFL, and then merged. The NBA begat the ABA, and then merged. My problem continues to be “where the money comes from,” I suppose, fist-pump and all. Maybe I’m wrong. As a casual golf fan I admit I’m confused. Does that mean none of the defectors in playing in the British Open? |
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Post by lebaneaver on Jul 16, 2022 22:44:31 GMT -8
…..with a spot o’ tea…… just joking about the tea…… I’ve been kinda/sorta rethinking my original disdain for those “traitors” who turned their selfish backs on the PGA. I suppose I understand their desire to play less rounds, in a different format, while gaining more control over their professional and private lives. If THAT is the motivation for their departure, I get it. The NFL begat the AFL, and then merged. The NBA begat the ABA, and then merged. My problem continues to be “where the money comes from,” I suppose, fist-pump and all. Maybe I’m wrong. As a casual golf fan I admit I’m confused. Does that mean none of the defectors in playing in the British Open? MOST or ALL of them ARE playing. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 17, 2022 7:12:52 GMT -8
…..with a spot o’ tea…… just joking about the tea…… I’ve been kinda/sorta rethinking my original disdain for those “traitors” who turned their selfish backs on the PGA. I suppose I understand their desire to play less rounds, in a different format, while gaining more control over their professional and private lives. If THAT is the motivation for their departure, I get it. The NFL begat the AFL, and then merged. The NBA begat the ABA, and then merged. My problem continues to be “where the money comes from,” I suppose, fist-pump and all. Maybe I’m wrong. As a casual golf fan I admit I’m confused. Does that mean none of the defectors in playing in the British Open? They are banned from PGA events. The PGA does not run the British Open, the US Open, the Masters or the PGA. However, LIV founder Greg Norman was not invited to the British Open champions dinner. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 17, 2022 7:14:35 GMT -8
As a casual golf fan I admit I’m confused. Does that mean none of the defectors in playing in the British Open? They are banned from PGA events. The PGA does not run the British Open, the US Open, the Masters or the PGA. However, LIV founder Greg Norman was not invited to the British Open champions dinner. That last one is ironic. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 17, 2022 8:44:02 GMT -8
As a casual golf fan I admit I’m confused. Does that mean none of the defectors in playing in the British Open? They are banned from PGA events. The PGA does not run the British Open, the US Open, the Masters or the PGA. However, LIV founder Greg Norman was not invited to the British Open champions dinner. The PGA doesn’t run the PGA championship? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 17, 2022 9:30:37 GMT -8
They are banned from PGA events. The PGA does not run the British Open, the US Open, the Masters or the PGA. However, LIV founder Greg Norman was not invited to the British Open champions dinner. The PGA doesn’t run the PGA championship? The PGA runs it, but it’s not part of the PGA tour. The LIV players are only banned from tour events. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 17, 2022 9:37:19 GMT -8
The PGA doesn’t run the PGA championship? The PGA runs it, but it’s not part of the PGA tour. The LIV players are only banned from tour events. So the PGA does run the PGA championship. Thanks for confirming. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 17, 2022 17:15:38 GMT -8
The PGA runs it, but it’s not part of the PGA tour. The LIV players are only banned from tour events. So the PGA does run the PGA championship. Thanks for confirming. The PGA is the Professional Golfers of America. It runs the PGA Championship, among other things, like the U S Amateur, etc., and makes its own eligibility rules. It is an entirely different organization than the PGA Tour. |
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Post by ag87 on Jul 17, 2022 17:30:42 GMT -8
Maybe it's bit like the Major League Player's Association and the Minor League Player's Association.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 17, 2022 18:30:40 GMT -8
The PGA runs it, but it’s not part of the PGA tour. The LIV players are only banned from tour events. So the PGA does run the PGA championship. Thanks for confirming. I’m sure many posters missed your condescending, snarky responses in your absence. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 17, 2022 18:46:13 GMT -8
So the PGA does run the PGA championship. Thanks for confirming. I’m sure many posters missed your condescending, snarky responses in your absence. The above assertion (relative to the PGA not running the PGA championship) is not factual. Tough luck if people don’t like seeing erroneous assertions corrected. I’ve certainly made my share and generally appreciate being corrected & don’t take it personally. |
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