2ndGenBeaver
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jun 30, 2022 22:59:51 GMT -8
I must be old school - I would like to have some semblance of "regionality" to the conferences. Surprised the folks in California aren't talking about their carbon footprint when all their teams need to travel 1500 miles more to play.....or the academic impact of losing another day of travel? But I am having a harder and harder time discerning the difference between pro sports and university sports - we've dropped all pretense that this is about education, but maybe it is for the better. But however this all shakes out, OSU was better served by being part of the Pac-12, but now will have to make due with rivals like BSU, CSU, USU, PSU, UP etc. I suspect, with an occasional out of league game with former Pac-12 teams to remind us of pre-pandemic matchups. My wife and I talked about a retirement dream where we thought it would be fun to visit all the other Pac-12 campuses to take in OSU road games, but we might have to revise that plan, at least destination-wise.....and since I now need a few years for my 104K to turn back into a 401K :-). Go Beavers!
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Post by whiskybeaver on Jul 1, 2022 2:24:50 GMT -8
The Big 10 will not take OSU we are not an AAU institution. 100% not even an option unfortunately.
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Post by william44 on Jul 1, 2022 5:13:13 GMT -8
We have nothing to offer. Hard to get to. Have to fly to Eugene. Smallish stadium. NCAA and all is toast. Money reigns. Likely only ones left OSU and wsu. Will kill recruiting because kids will go where they get best deals.,The idiots have destroyed college sports like never before.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jul 1, 2022 5:20:55 GMT -8
I grew up in San Carlos/Lake Murray area. I’ll take Reser Stadium and the ambiance of the OSU campus over ANYTHING in brown, dry, dusty, crowded Mission Valley every day. But, that’s me. have you seen what they are doing to that site and the stadium? It's pretty awesome. Reser is a mishmash of four different phases...they've done a decent job of making it look somewhat cohesive....but not like a one time build in a small bowl with some pretty cool features
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Post by lebaneaver on Jul 1, 2022 5:55:45 GMT -8
I remember when they built San Diego Stadium. A pretty awesome time. My dad would drive us kids down there from time to time to watch the progress. When it was finished in the summer of '67, it looked amazing! A "flying saucer" from a birds eye view. As a kid (nine years old), I figured it would last as long as the pyramids! Went to our first Charger game in '68. Watched MANY games in old Balboa Stadium. Times change. Sometimes for the better. NOT this time, I'm afraid.
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Post by castorcanadensis on Jul 1, 2022 7:00:09 GMT -8
I grew up in San Carlos/Lake Murray area. I’ll take Reser Stadium and the ambiance of the OSU campus over ANYTHING in brown, dry, dusty, crowded Mission Valley every day. But, that’s me. have you seen what they are doing to that site and the stadium? It's pretty awesome. Reser is a mishmash of four different phases...they've done a decent job of making it look somewhat cohesive....but not like a one time build in a small bowl with some pretty cool features OSU always wants to be small time. When they raise $180 million all we get is a new looking high school stadium that is 12k smaller than the dump we had. For $180 million it should have completed reser and continued to wrap around and mirror the other side along with a double deck end zone and 55k capacity. That would keep OSU out of the MWC but as always the beavers think small. So, the new stadium has locked us out of a major conference. Nice job. I totally agree with you that reser now just looks like a bunch of remodels that don’t have any cohesive elements.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jul 1, 2022 8:44:35 GMT -8
have you seen what they are doing to that site and the stadium? It's pretty awesome. Reser is a mishmash of four different phases...they've done a decent job of making it look somewhat cohesive....but not like a one time build in a small bowl with some pretty cool features OSU always wants to be small time. When they raise $180 million all we get is a new looking high school stadium that is 12k smaller than the dump we had. For $180 million it should have completed reser and continued to wrap around and mirror the other side along with a double deck end zone and 55k capacity. That would keep OSU out of the MWC but as always the beavers think small. So, the new stadium has locked us out of a major conference. Nice job. I totally agree with you that reser now just looks like a bunch of remodels that don’t have any cohesive elements. FWIW if OSU had a 55000 seat stadium it would have 20000 empty seats every Saturday. I can't comment too much on Reser...not an easy thing to accomplish in a small town like Corvallis. I think they could have done a more architecturally pleasing redo on north side...it definitely looks high schoolish. but east side looks amazing.
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Post by joeavocado on Jul 1, 2022 9:24:44 GMT -8
OSU always wants to be small time. When they raise $180 million all we get is a new looking high school stadium that is 12k smaller than the dump we had. For $180 million it should have completed reser and continued to wrap around and mirror the other side along with a double deck end zone and 55k capacity. That would keep OSU out of the MWC but as always the beavers think small. So, the new stadium has locked us out of a major conference. Nice job. I totally agree with you that reser now just looks like a bunch of remodels that don’t have any cohesive elements. FWIW if OSU had a 55000 seat stadium it would have 20000 empty seats every Saturday. I can't comment too much on Reser...not an easy thing to accomplish in a small town like Corvallis. I think they could have done a more architecturally pleasing redo on north side...it definitely looks high schoolish. but east side looks amazing. I agree, don't blame the stadium or the capacity, it's just a reflection of the ticket demand over the past 15 years. It won't be 12k seats smaller, it will be about 8k smaller than the 2007 version, and about 6k smaller than the 2017 version. The upper ends of the old west side have been empty for about 10 years, so why would they invest in making sure the new version includes those seats? They can always be added if demand increases, but let's face it, outside the SEC college football attendance is decreasing and will likely continue. The new side will have amenities and luxury seating options as nice as anywhere. The stadium is going to look really good and will finally be something OSU can be proud to show off, regardless of what league they are in or where the visiting team is from.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 1, 2022 9:26:09 GMT -8
have you seen what they are doing to that site and the stadium? It's pretty awesome. Reser is a mishmash of four different phases...they've done a decent job of making it look somewhat cohesive....but not like a one time build in a small bowl with some pretty cool features OSU always wants to be small time. When they raise $180 million all we get is a new looking high school stadium that is 12k smaller than the dump we had. For $180 million it should have completed reser and continued to wrap around and mirror the other side along with a double deck end zone and 55k capacity. That would keep OSU out of the MWC but as always the beavers think small. So, the new stadium has locked us out of a major conference. Nice job. I totally agree with you that reser now just looks like a bunch of remodels that don’t have any cohesive elements. It’s not $180 million and it’s not 12k smaller. Our stadium has nothing to do with this.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 1, 2022 9:26:35 GMT -8
have you seen what they are doing to that site and the stadium? It's pretty awesome. Reser is a mishmash of four different phases...they've done a decent job of making it look somewhat cohesive....but not like a one time build in a small bowl with some pretty cool features OSU always wants to be small time. When they raise $180 million all we get is a new looking high school stadium that is 12k smaller than the dump we had. For $180 million it should have completed reser and continued to wrap around and mirror the other side along with a double deck end zone and 55k capacity. That would keep OSU out of the MWC but as always the beavers think small. So, the new stadium has locked us out of a major conference. Nice job. I totally agree with you that reser now just looks like a bunch of remodels that don’t have any cohesive elements. Please show me a high school stadium that rivals Reser. Anywhere. Hyperbole or not, that's one ignorant statement. New capacity at Reser will be about 37k. Old capacity was 43K. I'm not anywhere near as good at math as you must be but 43k minus 37k is 6k, not 12k. How has the stadium locked us out of a major conference when we are already in one, and will continue to be?
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Post by Beavcat on Jul 1, 2022 10:21:07 GMT -8
Poor old OSU probably won't be part of the new Division I in any event. Maybe we'll have a great rivalry with Boise State. That's the most depressing thing I've read yet...
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Post by larbeav on Jul 1, 2022 10:24:48 GMT -8
If the Pac-12 folds . . . I think we are in the Mountain West, unless we get picked up by Big 10 but I don't think we have the gravitas to be invited. Oregon state has zero chance to be in the big ten, Oregon chances are not good either.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 1, 2022 10:41:10 GMT -8
OSU always wants to be small time. When they raise $180 million all we get is a new looking high school stadium that is 12k smaller than the dump we had. For $180 million it should have completed reser and continued to wrap around and mirror the other side along with a double deck end zone and 55k capacity. That would keep OSU out of the MWC but as always the beavers think small. So, the new stadium has locked us out of a major conference. Nice job. I totally agree with you that reser now just looks like a bunch of remodels that don’t have any cohesive elements. FWIW if OSU had a 55000 seat stadium it would have 20000 empty seats every Saturday. I can't comment too much on Reser...not an easy thing to accomplish in a small town like Corvallis. I think they could have done a more architecturally pleasing redo on north side...it definitely looks high schoolish. but east side looks amazing. 20k is generous lol
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 1, 2022 10:45:09 GMT -8
OSU always wants to be small time. When they raise $180 million all we get is a new looking high school stadium that is 12k smaller than the dump we had. For $180 million it should have completed reser and continued to wrap around and mirror the other side along with a double deck end zone and 55k capacity. That would keep OSU out of the MWC but as always the beavers think small. So, the new stadium has locked us out of a major conference. Nice job. I totally agree with you that reser now just looks like a bunch of remodels that don’t have any cohesive elements. Please show me a high school stadium that rivals Reser. Anywhere. Hyperbole or not, that's one ignorant statement. New capacity at Reser will be about 37k. Old capacity was 43K. I'm not anywhere near as good at math as you must be but 43k minus 37k is 6k, not 12k. How has the stadium locked us out of a major conference when we are already in one, and will continue to be? yeah that makes no sense. We are locked out cause we have almost no value. If we’re being generous we’re probably worth 50k household subscriptions for sports. The only other value we would offer is if we suddenly start with national championships in basketball and football so we are a good profit share. We have been a small time fan base in the PAC for 60 years, time to get used to getting valued based on us instead of what the conference did for us.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 1, 2022 10:54:59 GMT -8
If the Pac-12 folds . . . I think we are in the Mountain West, unless we get picked up by Big 10 but I don't think we have the gravitas to be invited. Oregon state has zero chance to be in the big ten, Oregon chances are not good either. Really depends on how much they want to expand. If they wanted 20 teams then the Washington and Oregon schools aren’t a bad option. If they want to just cherry pick random schools for value then there’s definitely zero chance for anyone but UW unless they want to let Oregon buy in.
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