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Post by ricke71 on Jun 30, 2022 16:08:51 GMT -8
This story (UCLA / USC to Big-10) gets more play re:football - but in the baseball world it could be a plus for OSU....and a disaster for UCLA.
Would a top HS SoCal baseball recruit rather play on (or against ) Purdue, Iowa, Minnesota....or on/against Stanford / OSU / UA, etc?
Big 10 is the 8th ranked (by RPI) baseball conference. PAC is the 4th ranked (and arguably a bit better).
1964: That was the last time a Big 10 BB team won the National Championship.
Personally, not being a football or men's basketball fan, I personally say: "Bye Bye !"
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 30, 2022 16:13:53 GMT -8
This story (UCLA / USC to Big-10) gets more play re:football - but in the baseball world it could be a plus for OSU....and a disaster for UCLA. Would a top HS SoCal baseball recruit rather play on (or against ) Purdue, Iowa, Minnesota....or on/against Stanford / OSU / UA, etc? Big 10 is the 8th ranked (by RPI) baseball conference. PAC is the 4th ranked (and arguably a bit better). 1962: That was the last time a Big 10 BB team won the National Championship. Personally, not being a football or men's basketball fan, I personally say: "Bye Bye !" You shouldn’t feel that way. Because the TV money from FB and BB is what runs the conference and this is going to make us lose a lot of it from not having the largest market. We are going to have less money to spend on baseball and other non revenue generating sports. |
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Post by william44 on Jun 30, 2022 17:00:14 GMT -8
If conference breaks up that will hurt in every sport. All about revenue. Best not wish good riddance. We will regret it .
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Post by ricke71 on Jun 30, 2022 17:18:43 GMT -8
This story (UCLA / USC to Big-10) gets more play re:football - but in the baseball world it could be a plus for OSU....and a disaster for UCLA. Would a top HS SoCal baseball recruit rather play on (or against ) Purdue, Iowa, Minnesota....or on/against Stanford / OSU / UA, etc? Big 10 is the 8th ranked (by RPI) baseball conference. PAC is the 4th ranked (and arguably a bit better). 1962: That was the last time a Big 10 BB team won the National Championship. Personally, not being a football or men's basketball fan, I personally say: "Bye Bye !" You shouldn’t feel that way. Because the TV money from FB and BB is what runs the conference and this is going to make us lose a lot of it from not having the largest market. We are going to have less money to spend on baseball and other non revenue generating sports. I realize that I "Shouldn't" feel this way. But as a baseball fan, I've already lived through the National transition from baseball being the "National Pastime" to a situation where the NFL Draft outshines the CWS in the National Media. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 30, 2022 17:33:35 GMT -8
You shouldn’t feel that way. Because the TV money from FB and BB is what runs the conference and this is going to make us lose a lot of it from not having the largest market. We are going to have less money to spend on baseball and other non revenue generating sports. I realize that I "Shouldn't" feel this way. But as a baseball fan, I've already lived through the National transition from baseball being the "National Pastime" to a situation where the NFL Draft outshines the CWS in the National Media. Transition? The CWS has always been outshined by multiple sports. |
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Post by ricke71 on Jun 30, 2022 17:44:20 GMT -8
I realize that I "Shouldn't" feel this way. But as a baseball fan, I've already lived through the National transition from baseball being the "National Pastime" to a situation where the NFL Draft outshines the CWS in the National Media. Transition? The CWS has always been outshined by multiple sports. You're right. I suppose my comparison should have been the "transition from baseball being the 'National Pastime' to a situation where the NFL Draft outshines the MLB World Series in the National Media. p.s. I honestly don't care. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 30, 2022 19:09:07 GMT -8
If conference breaks up that will hurt in every sport. All about revenue. Best not wish good riddance. We will regret it . Nothing anyone in the Pac-12 can do about it. I certainly didn't want them to leave. Of course if severely hurts the conference. But now that they have bailed, I want them to fail, and fail mightily, and have their fan bases rebel against losing rivals of more than a century and I want their attendance to tank. I want to see 20K in the Coliseum and Rose Bowl when Rutgers or Maryland shows up. I want to see them freezing their asses off in Minnesota and Iowa and Wisconsin and Michigan at football games in November and in baseball games in March and April. I want them to spend $50K flying back to Iowa for a baseball series and have the whole thing weathered out. I want their basketball teams to get stuck in a blizzard two or three times. Good riddance? Yeah, absolutely, those guys can GFT. |
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Post by easyheat on Jun 30, 2022 19:36:33 GMT -8
The notion that college athletes should be paid has been offensive to Stanford and their BOD. I can only imagine with the advent of NIL and big money "collectives", the kind of current conversation the BOD might be having.
They have made it very clear, Division III fits nicely with their philosophy of college athletics.
Leland Jr. would be very upset if he knew his University was engaged in a $10,000,000 bidding war with "Bama for a 5-Star high school quarterback.
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Post by seastape on Jul 4, 2022 21:18:02 GMT -8
The notion that college athletes should be paid has been offensive to Stanford and their BOD. I can only imagine with the advent of NIL and big money "collectives", the kind of current conversation the BOD might be having. They have made it very clear, Division III fits nicely with their philosophy of college athletics. Leland Jr. would be very upset if he knew his University was engaged in a $10,000,000 bidding war with "Bama for a 5-Star high school quarterback. Leland Stanford Jr. died at the age of 15 and his parents created the university as a memorial for him (the internet rumor that Harvard rejected the Stanfords, causing them to go west, is a myth). I think it's pretty unlikely that we know how he would react to the school engaging in pay for play. |
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Post by chinmusic on Jul 7, 2022 6:20:21 GMT -8
You assumed (incorrectly) that I didn't know that. Since the LSJU reference point is it's namesake, Leland Jr. is often used in the context I used it.
Leland and Jane are like family to me - know what I'm saying here?
You sound like you have interest in the Farm, or did you breeze down Palm Drive, zip through OU, avoided Door 1 and became a student there. Since I don't know your age, I'll ask, who sent you the big, fat envelope - Hargadon, Mamlette, Shaw?
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Post by seastape on Jul 7, 2022 10:15:48 GMT -8
You assumed (incorrectly) that I didn't know that. Since the LSJU reference point is it's namesake, Leland Jr. is often used in the context I used it. Leland and Jane are like family to me - know what I'm saying here? You sound like you have interest in the Farm, or did you breeze down Palm Drive, zip through OU, avoided Door 1 and became a student there. Since I don't know your age, I'll ask, who sent you the big, fat envelope - Hargadon, Mamlette, Shaw? To whom are you responding? |
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Post by seastape on Jul 7, 2022 12:08:23 GMT -8
You assumed (incorrectly) that I didn't know that. Since the LSJU reference point is it's namesake, Leland Jr. is often used in the context I used it. Leland and Jane are like family to me - know what I'm saying here? You sound like you have interest in the Farm, or did you breeze down Palm Drive, zip through OU, avoided Door 1 and became a student there. Since I don't know your age, I'll ask, who sent you the big, fat envelope - Hargadon, Mamlette, Shaw? To whom are you responding? Actually, I assume you're responding to me. I do have an interest in Stanford. It is my second favorite university behind my beloved OSU. My paternal grandparents went to Stanford for their undergrad degrees in the WWII era but before the war ended. I grew up going to home Stanford football games. I never got to go to a road game or a Big Game until 1982, when, a week before the game, two adults in the ticket group had to cancel going and I and my cousin, both of us in the 8th grade, got tapped to go. It was the single greatest/worst sporting experience of my life outside of a few OSU games. My cousin later went to Stanford for his undergrad and my sister later went there for her PhD. In my adulthood I've attended many Stanford basketball and football games. Never once in my 50+ years of living have I heard my relatives (and friends/alumni of the school) refer to the school as "he" because they were talking about the school and using the dead namesake to personalize the school. To me, the post by easyheat (is that another name you use on this board? If so, that's weird.) seemed to be specifically referencing the child who died young and not the school. Even so, I figured that easyheat might have been referencing the school but I decided to give a literal response to a figurative statement. Just a little humor. As far as "Leland and Jane" are concerned...no, I have no idea what you're saying here. I also didn't go to school as I never was a good student. And I'm baffled why you felt the need to get so nasty about it. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 7, 2022 12:50:48 GMT -8
The notion that college athletes should be paid has been offensive to Stanford and their BOD. I can only imagine with the advent of NIL and big money "collectives", the kind of current conversation the BOD might be having. They have made it very clear, Division III fits nicely with their philosophy of college athletics. Leland Jr. would be very upset if he knew his University was engaged in a $10,000,000 bidding war with "Bama for a 5-Star high school quarterback. Leland Stanford Jr. died at the age of 15 and his parents created the university as a memorial for him (the internet rumor that Harvard rejected the Stanfords, causing them to go west, is a myth). I think it's pretty unlikely that we know how he would react to the school engaging in pay for play. The whole Leland; Jane; and Leland, Junior, saga is crazy. 49er. First Republican governor of California, during the Civil War. Great Flood of 1862. Co-founded the Central Pacific Railroad. Drove in the golden spike, which is in a Museum at Stanford University. Funded the first proto-motion picture, which was used to film one of Senior's horses on the Farm that would eventually become Stanford University. Senior's only son, Junior, died in Florence on vacation in Europe. Senior founds Stanford as a way of adopting all the children of California, names it after his son, and then dies. Jane takes over but is poisoned by strychnine twice before dying in Hawai'i of strychnine poisoning. (Intentional strychnine poisoning, although no one is sure who did it.) The first President of Stanford with motive (but no opportunity - conspiracy?) covers up the poisoning, which only comes back to light more than 80 years later. |
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Post by BeaverG20 on Jul 7, 2022 19:46:43 GMT -8
Leland Stanford Jr. died at the age of 15 and his parents created the university as a memorial for him (the internet rumor that Harvard rejected the Stanfords, causing them to go west, is a myth). I think it's pretty unlikely that we know how he would react to the school engaging in pay for play. The whole Leland; Jane; and Leland, Junior, saga is crazy. 49er. First Republican governor of California, during the Civil War. Great Flood of 1862. Co-founded the Central Pacific Railroad. Drove in the golden spike, which is in a Museum at Stanford University. Funded the first proto-motion picture, which was used to film one of Senior's horses on the Farm that would eventually become Stanford University. Senior's only son, Junior, died in Florence on vacation in Europe. Senior founds Stanford as a way of adopting all the children of California, names it after his son, and then dies. Jane takes over but is poisoned by strychnine twice before dying in Hawai'i of strychnine poisoning. (Intentional strychnine poisoning, although no one is sure who did it.) The first President of Stanford with motive (but no opportunity - conspiracy?) covers up the poisoning, which only comes back to light more than 80 years later. And?...... |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 7, 2022 20:59:57 GMT -8
The whole Leland; Jane; and Leland, Junior, saga is crazy. 49er. First Republican governor of California, during the Civil War. Great Flood of 1862. Co-founded the Central Pacific Railroad. Drove in the golden spike, which is in a Museum at Stanford University. Funded the first proto-motion picture, which was used to film one of Senior's horses on the Farm that would eventually become Stanford University. Senior's only son, Junior, died in Florence on vacation in Europe. Senior founds Stanford as a way of adopting all the children of California, names it after his son, and then dies. Jane takes over but is poisoned by strychnine twice before dying in Hawai'i of strychnine poisoning. (Intentional strychnine poisoning, although no one is sure who did it.) The first President of Stanford with motive (but no opportunity - conspiracy?) covers up the poisoning, which only comes back to light more than 80 years later. And?...... And that's why Stanford's a thing. Wildly interesting. The idea that Leland, Junior would give a rat's patoot seems dubious at best. |
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