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Hjerpe
Jun 16, 2022 14:25:44 GMT -8
Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 16, 2022 14:25:44 GMT -8
Well Yeskie and group are going to Omaha…..not saying good or bad but proof is in the pudding Well, are you comparing Yeskie to Dorman or A & M to OSU? Or let me ask it a different way. Would we be in Omaha if Yeskie were here? You mean, if we had Garrett Irvin to pair with Hjerpe and Susac behind the dish to catch for the pair? I think that Oregon State would have been next-to-unstoppable, if Nate Yeskie had stuck around. The guy can recruit anyone anywhere. Plus A&M is no powerhouse. 2022 is A&M's first College World Series since 2017, and that was a fluke. #4 Davidson beat North Carolina twice in the Chapel Hill Regional. A&M won the Houston Regional over host Houston, after an under-seeded Iowa had upset Houston in game one. and it took A&M 15 innings to beat Davidson at College Station. A&M went 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 2011 (back in the Big 12). The Aggies won the College Station Regional and then upset Florida State in the Tallahassee Super Regional, despite getting outscored. 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 1999. The Aggies won the College Station Regional winning their way out of the losers' bracket. A&M then won the College Station SUper Regional. 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 1993. 3&Q. Although A&M was the #1 overall seed. A&M went 2&Q in 1964 and 3&Q in 1951. If A&M wins two games, this is officially the greatest A&M team of all time. Yeskie is a big part of that on both sides of the plate. |
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Hjerpe
Jun 16, 2022 14:28:21 GMT -8
Post by thewizard on Jun 16, 2022 14:28:21 GMT -8
Go ahead and tell me that we miss Yeskie. Or that Dorman isn't a good coach.  Well Yeskie and group are going to Omaha…..not saying good or bad but proof is in the pudding MSU had a 6.07 ERA and 0.260 batting average against OSU had a 4.19 ERA and 0.246 batting average against |
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Hjerpe
Jun 16, 2022 14:49:43 GMT -8
Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 16, 2022 14:49:43 GMT -8
Well Yeskie and group are going to Omaha…..not saying good or bad but proof is in the pudding MSU had a 6.07 ERA and 0.260 batting average against OSU had a 4.19 ERA and 0.246 batting average against MSU? A&M has a 4.68 ERA and .262 BAA. OSU has a 4.19 ERA and .246 BAA. Three years ago (Nate Yeskie's last year at Oregon State), OSU had a 3.02 ERA and .230 BAA. 4.19 ERA is the highest at Oregon State since 2008 (last year before Yeskie). 4.19 ERA at Oregon State means that something is seriously wrong. A lot people point to injuries. But there were injuries in 2016 and 2019, and you never saw a 4.19 ERA. |
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Post by 56chevy on Jun 16, 2022 15:17:08 GMT -8
Seems strange to look at the current staff and team performance through the filter of a previous staff member and his current performance. Things happen, leadership changes. Nothing lasts forever. If it did, I'd choose every year to be 2018. I can't, and it's not. Greatful for the effort this year of players and staff.
I can't wait for Surprise 2023.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 16, 2022 15:26:41 GMT -8
Well, are you comparing Yeskie to Dorman or A & M to OSU? Or let me ask it a different way. Would we be in Omaha if Yeskie were here? You mean, if we had Garrett Irvin to pair with Hjerpe and Susac behind the dish to catch for the pair? I think that Oregon State would have been next-to-unstoppable, if Nate Yeskie had stuck around. The guy can recruit anyone anywhere. Plus A&M is no powerhouse. 2022 is A&M's first College World Series since 2017, and that was a fluke. #4 Davidson beat North Carolina twice in the Chapel Hill Regional. A&M won the Houston Regional over host Houston, after an under-seeded Iowa had upset Houston in game one. and it took A&M 15 innings to beat Davidson at College Station. A&M went 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 2011 (back in the Big 12). The Aggies won the College Station Regional and then upset Florida State in the Tallahassee Super Regional, despite getting outscored. 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 1999. The Aggies won the College Station Regional winning their way out of the losers' bracket. A&M then won the College Station SUper Regional. 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 1993. 3&Q. Although A&M was the #1 overall seed. A&M went 2&Q in 1964 and 3&Q in 1951. If A&M wins two games, this is officially the greatest A&M team of all time. Yeskie is a big part of that on both sides of the plate. Nate Yeskie is not head coaching material. Plus, he's an a-hole. Good coach, but trying to extrapolate how OSU would have been if he was the head coach, is impossible. Nate had a big say in the recruiting of Pitchers and some say in the Catchers, but he was not heavily involved in the recruiting of other players. That had a lot more to do with Bailey and Jenkins. MC and Dorman are doing a very good job. I'll focus on that. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 16, 2022 15:32:07 GMT -8
MSU had a 6.07 ERA and 0.260 batting average against OSU had a 4.19 ERA and 0.246 batting average against MSU? A&M has a 4.68 ERA and .262 BAA. OSU has a 4.19 ERA and .246 BAA. Three years ago (Nate Yeskie's last year at Oregon State), OSU had a 3.02 ERA and .230 BAA. 4.19 ERA is the highest at Oregon State since 2008 (last year before Yeskie). 4.19 ERA at Oregon State means that something is seriously wrong. A lot people point to injuries. But there were injuries in 2016 and 2019, and you never saw a 4.19 ERA. We were 24th in the country in ERA with two of our projected starters out for the season. Nothing is "seriously" wrong. It doesn't help that stat when you give up 22 earned runs in 1 game. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jun 16, 2022 16:07:20 GMT -8
MSU had a 6.07 ERA and 0.260 batting average against OSU had a 4.19 ERA and 0.246 batting average against MSU? A&M has a 4.68 ERA and .262 BAA. OSU has a 4.19 ERA and .246 BAA. Three years ago (Nate Yeskie's last year at Oregon State), OSU had a 3.02 ERA and .230 BAA. 4.19 ERA is the highest at Oregon State since 2008 (last year before Yeskie). 4.19 ERA at Oregon State means that something is seriously wrong. A lot people point to injuries. But there were injuries in 2016 and 2019, and you never saw a 4.19 ERA. The UCLA game johnny wholestaff abortion in a pointless game added a 1/2 point? to the era. Scoring was way up in the regionals, so something was different with the bats or balls this year. Really should remove the UCLA game and normalize ERA to the scoring average for the year... and I am not doing that. I don't get the Yeskie bashing anyway, the man was here for 11 years or more, helped us in 3 or so College World Series and 1 National title, won a national assistant of the year award etc etc etc. I don't think the question was ever is he a great pitching coach, he was under Pat Casey. The only question was should he become the Head Coach when Pat retired. We got the right guy in Canham, and Canham hired an excellent pitching Coach in Dorman. We are fortunate to have or had all of them. |
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Hjerpe
Jun 16, 2022 16:22:17 GMT -8
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Post by zeroposter on Jun 16, 2022 16:22:17 GMT -8
MSU? A&M has a 4.68 ERA and .262 BAA. OSU has a 4.19 ERA and .246 BAA. Three years ago (Nate Yeskie's last year at Oregon State), OSU had a 3.02 ERA and .230 BAA. 4.19 ERA is the highest at Oregon State since 2008 (last year before Yeskie). 4.19 ERA at Oregon State means that something is seriously wrong. A lot people point to injuries. But there were injuries in 2016 and 2019, and you never saw a 4.19 ERA. The UCLA game johnny wholestaff abortion in a pointless game added a 1/2 point? to the era. Scoring was way up in the regionals, so something was different with the bats or balls this year. Really should remove the UCLA game and normalize ERA to the scoring average for the year... and I am not doing that. I don't get the Yeskie bashing anyway, the man was here for 11 years or more, helped us in 3 or so College World Series and 1 National title, won a national assistant of the year award etc etc etc. I don't think the question was ever is he a great pitching coach, he was under Pat Casey. The only question was should he become the Head Coach when Pat retired. We got the right guy in Canham, and Canham hired an excellent pitching Coach in Dorman. We are fortunate to have or had all of them. I don’t think any poster bashes Nate as a pitching coach. His first few years at OSU, where he got the “Late Nate” reputation, Nate never made a move that wasn’t Casey directed and orchestrated. Yeskie never deserved that nickname. Yeskie will, hopefully, get a shot at a head coaching slot. |
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Hjerpe
Jun 16, 2022 16:28:10 GMT -8
Post by irimi on Jun 16, 2022 16:28:10 GMT -8
MSU? A&M has a 4.68 ERA and .262 BAA. OSU has a 4.19 ERA and .246 BAA. Three years ago (Nate Yeskie's last year at Oregon State), OSU had a 3.02 ERA and .230 BAA. 4.19 ERA is the highest at Oregon State since 2008 (last year before Yeskie). 4.19 ERA at Oregon State means that something is seriously wrong. A lot people point to injuries. But there were injuries in 2016 and 2019, and you never saw a 4.19 ERA. The UCLA game johnny wholestaff abortion in a pointless game added a 1/2 point? to the era. Scoring was way up in the regionals, so something was different with the bats or balls this year. Really should remove the UCLA game and normalize ERA to the scoring average for the year... and I am not doing that. I don't get the Yeskie bashing anyway, the man was here for 11 years or more, helped us in 3 or so College World Series and 1 National title, won a national assistant of the year award etc etc etc. I don't think the question was ever is he a great pitching coach, he was under Pat Casey. The only question was should he become the Head Coach when Pat retired. We got the right guy in Canham, and Canham hired an excellent pitching Coach in Dorman. We are fortunate to have or had all of them. Not really bashing him. I appreciate what he did for us when he was a Beaver. I really didn’t like the way he took off, but we can chalk that up to bitter grapes. I think this honor, of course, belongs to Coop. But I’m sure he would credit Dorman and many others. You don’t get there alone. Hjerpe was a big part of why we had the year we had. We started with some bad luck, losing our projected starters, but rolled on ahead, coming within a run of Omaha. Looking back to February and March, most of the people on the board didn’t think it was possible. But here we are. With the best pitcher in the country. |
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Hjerpe
Jun 16, 2022 16:31:08 GMT -8
Post by irimi on Jun 16, 2022 16:31:08 GMT -8
Well, are you comparing Yeskie to Dorman or A & M to OSU? Or let me ask it a different way. Would we be in Omaha if Yeskie were here? You mean, if we had Garrett Irvin to pair with Hjerpe and Susac behind the dish to catch for the pair? I think that Oregon State would have been next-to-unstoppable, if Nate Yeskie had stuck around. The guy can recruit anyone anywhere. Plus A&M is no powerhouse. 2022 is A&M's first College World Series since 2017, and that was a fluke. #4 Davidson beat North Carolina twice in the Chapel Hill Regional. A&M won the Houston Regional over host Houston, after an under-seeded Iowa had upset Houston in game one. and it took A&M 15 innings to beat Davidson at College Station. A&M went 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 2011 (back in the Big 12). The Aggies won the College Station Regional and then upset Florida State in the Tallahassee Super Regional, despite getting outscored. 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 1999. The Aggies won the College Station Regional winning their way out of the losers' bracket. A&M then won the College Station SUper Regional. 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 1993. 3&Q. Although A&M was the #1 overall seed. A&M went 2&Q in 1964 and 3&Q in 1951. If A&M wins two games, this is officially the greatest A&M team of all time. Yeskie is a big part of that on both sides of the plate. Just think. If Susac had been as faithful to Yeskie as before, he’d be in Omaha right now…. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 16, 2022 17:19:40 GMT -8
MSU? A&M has a 4.68 ERA and .262 BAA. OSU has a 4.19 ERA and .246 BAA. Three years ago (Nate Yeskie's last year at Oregon State), OSU had a 3.02 ERA and .230 BAA. 4.19 ERA is the highest at Oregon State since 2008 (last year before Yeskie). 4.19 ERA at Oregon State means that something is seriously wrong. A lot people point to injuries. But there were injuries in 2016 and 2019, and you never saw a 4.19 ERA. The UCLA game johnny wholestaff abortion in a pointless game added a 1/2 point? to the era. Scoring was way up in the regionals, so something was different with the bats or balls this year. Really should remove the UCLA game and normalize ERA to the scoring average for the year... and I am not doing that. I don't get the Yeskie bashing anyway, the man was here for 11 years or more, helped us in 3 or so College World Series and 1 National title, won a national assistant of the year award etc etc etc. I don't think the question was ever is he a great pitching coach, he was under Pat Casey. The only question was should he become the Head Coach when Pat retired. We got the right guy in Canham, and Canham hired an excellent pitching Coach in Dorman. We are fortunate to have or had all of them. Not bashing him. He is a good pitching coach. Just didn’t like him off the field and don’t think he has what it takes to be a head coach. There’s a reason that PC wanted MC and not Yeskie. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 16, 2022 17:20:48 GMT -8
You mean, if we had Garrett Irvin to pair with Hjerpe and Susac behind the dish to catch for the pair? I think that Oregon State would have been next-to-unstoppable, if Nate Yeskie had stuck around. The guy can recruit anyone anywhere. Plus A&M is no powerhouse. 2022 is A&M's first College World Series since 2017, and that was a fluke. #4 Davidson beat North Carolina twice in the Chapel Hill Regional. A&M won the Houston Regional over host Houston, after an under-seeded Iowa had upset Houston in game one. and it took A&M 15 innings to beat Davidson at College Station. A&M went 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 2011 (back in the Big 12). The Aggies won the College Station Regional and then upset Florida State in the Tallahassee Super Regional, despite getting outscored. 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 1999. The Aggies won the College Station Regional winning their way out of the losers' bracket. A&M then won the College Station SUper Regional. 2&Q at Omaha. A&M's appearance before that was 1993. 3&Q. Although A&M was the #1 overall seed. A&M went 2&Q in 1964 and 3&Q in 1951. If A&M wins two games, this is officially the greatest A&M team of all time. Yeskie is a big part of that on both sides of the plate. Just think. If Susac had been as faithful to Yeskie as before, he’d be in Omaha right now…. He wipe his tears with the bills he gets from being a 1st round draft pick. He’ll be OK. |
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Hjerpe
Jun 16, 2022 17:29:51 GMT -8
Post by grackle on Jun 16, 2022 17:29:51 GMT -8
I thought at the time that the Canham-Dorman hire was a mistake. In a number of respects I still think it was a mistake. But in other ways the Canham-Dorman team has exceeded my expectations.
However, to spend much time speculating how some other coaches might have fared here amounts to a pure waste of energy. IMO.
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Post by zeroposter on Jun 16, 2022 18:55:25 GMT -8
Not having Frisch at all, and Pfennings for most of the year, I think our staff exceeded expectations.......who would've thought hitting and defensive miscues wouldve been whatvkept us from advancing? Pitching did not help. Posting a 4.33 ERA over a three-game set is not going to win a lot of series. Our defense only had two errors, and one was on a pitcher. And that was the only one that led to an unearned run, and that run did not factor into the loss. Oregon State was 3/8 with runners in scoring position in game one. But the pitching put us in too big of a hole. Hitting completely failed in game three. But the whole Hjerpe is sick and Pfennigs throwing on short notice is what killed Oregon State in game one. The Bazzana error did not lead to an unearned run. Absolutely correct. But to say that it did not factor into the game 3 loss is misleading at best. If he doesn’t make the error, Beavers have 2 outs and are down 3-1. Does the next guy squeeze? Hell no. The next guy may have homered or struck out or whatever. But he sure the heck wouldn’t have squeezed. To say that error didn’t impact is pure, lawyer- speak bulls%#t. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 16, 2022 20:37:15 GMT -8
Not having Frisch at all, and Pfennings for most of the year, I think our staff exceeded expectations.......who would've thought hitting and defensive miscues wouldve been whatvkept us from advancing? Pitching did not help. Posting a 4.33 ERA over a three-game set is not going to win a lot of series. Our defense only had two errors, and one was on a pitcher. And that was the only one that led to an unearned run, and that run did not factor into the loss. Oregon State was 3/8 with runners in scoring position in game one. But the pitching put us in too big of a hole. Hitting completely failed in game three. But the whole Hjerpe is sick and Pfennigs throwing on short notice is what killed Oregon State in game one. I meant moreso down the stretch run.....we had a lot of games with 3 errors, and too many games where our bats disappeared. Also, we held Auburns hot offense down about as well as anyone couldve expected......Big boy just happened to hit two long balls that were the difference.....that second one was a long pop fly that just kept carrying |
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