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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 5, 2022 23:06:42 GMT -8
The last time that Oregon State lost by 7+ runs in the postseason at Goss Stadium/neutral site:
May 31, 2014 UC Irvine 14 - Oregon State 2
The next game:
June 1, 2014 Oregon State 6 - UNLV 1
The time before that:
June 17, 2006 Miami 11 - Oregon State 1
The next game:
June 19, 2006 Oregon State 5 - Georgia 3
The Beavers have been here before and have rebounded. Let's go out and give 'em hell tomorrow.
Also, let's start up the 2022 Revenge Tour with Vanderbilt. Revenge for yesterday. Revenge for the 2011 Nashville Super Regional. We still owe the Commodores at least one more really righteous ass-kicking.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 6, 2022 6:22:33 GMT -8
Appreciate the historical perspective, but this is against the same opponent who is playing loose, and confident.
If I'm honest, I don't have a great feeling about today's game. Last night was one of the poorest games we've had all season. We just looked flat and played sloppy......bats?
How will the guys respond?
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Post by beavaristotle on Jun 6, 2022 6:47:51 GMT -8
I’m wondering if it’s a lack of leadership from within the team, it can’t always come from the coaches. In the past it was obvious watching the team play who the leaders were. Our best teams have always had someone to rally the guys and shown the way, we have also had a guy willing to meet you in the parking lot to “discuss “ any problem that came up. Casey always said you don’t appoint a team captain, leaders will rise.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 6, 2022 6:54:15 GMT -8
Our two most recent "best" teams also had multiple future MLB players.
2017: Rutschman, Kwan, Larnach, Madrigal, Rasmussen.
2018: Rutschman, Kwan, Larnach, Madrigal.
Both teams had a guy who will most likely top out in AAA in Grenier, and a pitcher who could have played MLB (Heimlich).
That kind of talent is almost impossible to assemble. Talent matters, and this team simply isn't as talented. Doesn't mean we can't win today.
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Post by ricke71 on Jun 6, 2022 7:56:03 GMT -8
Our two most recent "best" teams also had multiple future MLB players. 2017: Rutschman, Kwan, Larnach, Madrigal, Rasmussen. 2018: Rutschman, Kwan, Larnach, Madrigal. Both teams had a guy who will most likely top out in AAA in Grenier, and a pitcher who could have played MLB (Heimlich). That kind of talent is almost impossible to assemble. Talent matters, and this team simply isn't as talented. Doesn't mean we can't win today. 2017 & 2018 teams will possibly (likely?) be the high water for the program...for decades to come. Both had incredible talent. I just hope that the next 10+ years provides very good PAC-12 teams, that are competitive and consistently make the post-season. The alternative to that is provided by the examples of USC and ASU: Teams that had many great years and then fell into the also-ran category, despite having the weather and the local recruiting base that the Beavers don't have. What a sad picture it is to see their National Championship banners in their outfields....all from the last Century; most of them from roughly 50 years ago. p.s. One of these months Grenier just might 'click' re: hitting and find himself an Oriole, for at least a cup of coffee. He's currently on an 7-game hitting streak at Norfolk (10 for 22) and his BA for the season is at .252. |
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Post by jefframp on Jun 6, 2022 7:59:12 GMT -8
Vanderbilt is trending downward. Saturday they scored 20, Sunday afternoon they scored 14 and Sunday night they scored only 8. Looks like they score 2 runs today by my math. If we can't score more than 2 runs today then we deserve to stay home. Ummmm, I guess either way we are staying home next weekend!   |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 6, 2022 8:24:07 GMT -8
Vanderbilt is trending downward. Saturday they scored 20, Sunday afternoon they scored 14 and Sunday night they scored only 8. Looks like they score 2 runs today by my math. If we can't score more than 2 runs today then we deserve to stay home. Ummmm, I guess either way we are staying home next weekend! Good point Jeff, they are getting tired, feet are wet and cold and they will be lucky to score 2! |
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Post by OriginalWhizzinator on Jun 6, 2022 8:30:07 GMT -8
Hated that Vanderbilt wound up in our regional from the get-go. Loved it when they got sent to the losers bracket. But ever since then, they’ve been absolute 🔥. Dammit.
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Post by rafer on Jun 6, 2022 9:01:34 GMT -8
The last time that Oregon State lost by 7+ runs in the postseason at Goss Stadium/neutral site: May 31, 2014 UC Irvine 14 - Oregon State 2
The next game:
June 1, 2014 Oregon State 6 - UNLV 1
The time before that:
June 17, 2006 Miami 11 - Oregon State 1
The next game:
June 19, 2006 Oregon State 5 - Georgia 3
The Beavers have been here before and have rebounded. Let's go out and give 'em hell tomorrow.
Also, let's start up the 2022 Revenge Tour with Vanderbilt. Revenge for yesterday. Revenge for the 2011 Nashville Super Regional. We still owe the Commodores at least one more really righteous ass-kicking.Good luck with that, hard to do with subpar pitching and VERY little hitting from your stars. Might be more embarrassing than yesterday . Hope they wake up but from the last 8 games or so, not expecting it. Hope I'm totally wrong. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jun 6, 2022 9:06:22 GMT -8
Our two most recent "best" teams also had multiple future MLB players. 2017: Rutschman, Kwan, Larnach, Madrigal, Rasmussen. 2018: Rutschman, Kwan, Larnach, Madrigal. Both teams had a guy who will most likely top out in AAA in Grenier, and a pitcher who could have played MLB (Heimlich). That kind of talent is almost impossible to assemble. Talent matters, and this team simply isn't as talented. Doesn't mean we can't win today. I don't think the talent gap is that big. And this year's talent hasn't finished writing it's story. Hopefully there's more to the story after today. Hjerpe and Melton are consensus 1st rounders. Boyd is an absolute beast. Bazzana, Logan, Forrester, Meckler......and a pretty deep pitching staff......I think what maybe put the 17/18 teams over the top was Gretler the elder at 3rd. The '22 team has never been able to get consistency at 3rd, or at SS for that matter, in the batting order....if only Guerra and Trosky were a bit further along! |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 6, 2022 11:04:44 GMT -8
Let's seen how many 2022 Beavers are in the majors four or five years down the road. I'm guessing not four or five.
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Post by rgeorge on Jun 6, 2022 11:26:28 GMT -8
Our two most recent "best" teams also had multiple future MLB players. 2017: Rutschman, Kwan, Larnach, Madrigal, Rasmussen. 2018: Rutschman, Kwan, Larnach, Madrigal. Both teams had a guy who will most likely top out in AAA in Grenier, and a pitcher who could have played MLB (Heimlich). That kind of talent is almost impossible to assemble. Talent matters, and this team simply isn't as talented. Doesn't mean we can't win today. I don't the talent gap is that big. And this year's talent hasn't finished writing it's story. Hopefully there's more to the story after today. Hjerpe and Melton are consensus 1st rounders. Boyd is an absolute beast. Bazzana, Logan, Forrester, Meckler......and a pretty deep pitching staff......I think what maybe put the 17/18 teams over the top was Gretler the elder at 3rd. The '22 team has never been able to get consistency at 3rd, or at SS for that matter, in the batting order....if only Guerra and Trosky were a bit further along! Crazy talk! Not trying to be argumentative, but this team is in no way the caliber of those two teams. Although it doesn't matter as those guys are long gone... Excluding the obvious outcomes of CWS/Titles the overall talent doesn't compare. Those team would dominate this current squad. Although 20/20 hindsight there are not (4-5) MLB level players on this squad. Melton is by no means a "consensus" 1st rounder... certain mocks have him dropped out of the top 62. With all the college and HS OF available I do not see (and several scouts) a team risking big $ and early selection on a player with glaring holes in his game. That said there is not a player on the current roster that could equal those mentioned in their college careers. Even if you say the top 4-5 in '22 vs these guys was close (it's not) that would mean the other 4-5 starters would have to be at the level of the other 2017/18 regulars. Fuchs, Trotsky, Gretler, Dukart, Derneede vs let's say ("other" key regulars): '17... KJ, Anderson, M Gretler, Donahue... NOPE, take 2017 every time '18... M Gretler, Nobach, Malone, Taylor, Anderson, Armstrong... NOPE, take 2018 every time. A couple of those guys are EXACTLY what this team is missing. Not only not at the same talent level overall, but not at the same "big/key moment" level. There's not the overall consistent fire in this '22 team. Sure when things are going well emotions flow. But 2017-2018, the team was always pumped, always super competitive and NEVER took plays off. My take anyway. |
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on Jun 6, 2022 11:41:48 GMT -8
Vanderbilt is trending downward. Saturday they scored 20, Sunday afternoon they scored 14 and Sunday night they scored only 8. Looks like they score 2 runs today by my math. If we can't score more than 2 runs today then we deserve to stay home. Ummmm, I guess either way we are staying home next weekend! Not too crazy about your analysis….. I think we need to plate a half dozen runs to be in this game honestly…..I hope I’m wrong |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 6, 2022 17:13:10 GMT -8
Let's seen how many 2022 Beavers are in the majors four or five years down the road. I'm guessing not four or five. Last I checked we don't have to meet the 2017-18 Beavers in the 2022 tourney so who cares how much talent they had compared to the current team. The post was in response to one questioning this team's "leadership" compared to those teams. Talent matters most. Always has, always will. Armstrong was a great guy to have on your team. But he would not play on this team in the OF ahead of Meckler, Boyd and Melton. Simply no way. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 6, 2022 17:23:15 GMT -8
Last I checked we don't have to meet the 2017-18 Beavers in the 2022 tourney so who cares how much talent they had compared to the current team. The post was in response to one questioning this team's "leadership" compared to those teams. Talent matters most. Always has, always will. Armstrong was a great guy to have on your team. But he would not play on this team in the OF ahead of Meckler, Boyd and Melton. Simply no way. I think maybe you meant Anderson and not Armstrong, since Andy was an infielder. |
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