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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 28, 2022 18:18:21 GMT -8
no of the available arms I listed. We have tons of good pitchers. Ferrer is just the only good relief arm still available today. Ok. That makes more sense yeah if I claim our team has one good pitcher just take me for a walk behind the shed and come back alone. I would be so far gone it would be a mercy lol
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Post by rgeorge on May 28, 2022 18:18:49 GMT -8
The pitching just crumbled, due to: Heat, concrete infield, wind, nerves, and a strike zone the size of a dinner plate. It went that way for both teams, 47 runs, 270 pitches by the Beavs, 257 thrown by the Bruins. No pitcher had sustained success today. So all the factors that both teams faced?
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Post by Judge Smails on May 28, 2022 18:18:55 GMT -8
no of the available arms I listed. We have tons of good pitchers. Ferrer is just the only good relief arm still available today. I'll disagree with "tons". You just saw half our staff give up 25. Guerra has not pitched yet.
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Post by sonomabeav on May 28, 2022 18:19:14 GMT -8
I'm exaggerating on the "dinner plate" comment, but umpire Van Raphorst certainly did not provide a "pitcher's zone" today. No width or height to his zone. Squeezed on all sides, I thought....
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Post by zeroposter on May 28, 2022 18:19:22 GMT -8
Third and second were occupied. Sorry... I wasn't in the stadium, just clarifying the rule. As I read all the interpretations, Aristotle is right on the stepping off the rubber fake to third. I had always assumed so as well. Is it still legal to fake to third when off the rubber? It has to be. No difference in this result, but my beer head is confused.
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Post by Judge Smails on May 28, 2022 18:20:56 GMT -8
I'm exaggerating on the "dinner plate" comment, but umpire Van Raphorst certainly did not provide a "pitcher's zone" today. No width or height to his zone. Squeezed on all sides, I thought.... Correct me if I’m wrong, but if there was no width and no height to his strike zone, how was there any strikes thrown in the game?
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Post by rgeorge on May 28, 2022 18:22:34 GMT -8
Sorry... I wasn't in the stadium, just clarifying the rule. As I read all the interpretations, Aristotle is right on the stepping off the rubber fake to third. I had always assumed so as well. Is it still legal to fake to third when off the rubber? It has to be. No difference in this result, but my beer head is confused. Not being there... if he "parted" before stepping back, it's a balk. If he's on and steps toward, inside 45 degrees (usually the determination) he can also fake. But, just stepping back doesn't eliminate correct mitt/hand contact.
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Post by beaver55to7 on May 28, 2022 18:24:49 GMT -8
Not that it matters, but you can’t balk once you step off the pitchers plate. You are no longer a pitcher off the plate, you have the same rules as any other infielder off the pitchers plate. Calling a balk after a player has stepped off the pitchers plate would be like calling a balk on the third basemen, can’t happen. If there was a balk, and I don’t think there was, it would have to come before he stepped off.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 28, 2022 18:26:52 GMT -8
no of the available arms I listed. We have tons of good pitchers. Ferrer is just the only good relief arm still available today. I'll disagree with "tons". You just saw half our staff give up 25. okay I’d say we have 2 elite arms, 5 great arms, 5 good arm and some others that need to develop a bit. Significantly less than a to though. Oh Frisch is elite and Mundt is great but out.
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Post by cake on May 28, 2022 19:04:17 GMT -8
I'm exaggerating on the "dinner plate" comment, but umpire Van Raphorst certainly did not provide a "pitcher's zone" today. No width or height to his zone. Squeezed on all sides, I thought.... Correct me if I’m wrong, but if there was no width and no height to his strike zone, how was there any strikes thrown in the game? some pitches hit the singularity of his strike zone. But really, he was pretty consistent, just a very low zone which doesn't benefit Brown.
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Post by cake on May 28, 2022 19:06:15 GMT -8
Not that it matters, but you can’t balk once you step off the pitchers plate. You are no longer a pitcher off the plate, you have the same rules as any other infielder off the pitchers plate. Calling a balk after a player has stepped off the pitchers plate would be like calling a balk on the third basemen, can’t happen. If there was a balk, and I don’t think there was, it would have to come before he stepped off. that's exactly right. They could have ended up calling delay of game, but I thought there was a warning for that. To me it's pretty clear that wasn't a balk.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 28, 2022 20:12:37 GMT -8
I'm exaggerating on the "dinner plate" comment, but umpire Van Raphorst certainly did not provide a "pitcher's zone" today. No width or height to his zone. Squeezed on all sides, I thought.... I don't know, if it's the reason. However, it seemed to me like Van Raaphorst never cleaned off the plate, and he did not call a strike unless he saw that it was clearly a strike in his zone.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 28, 2022 21:23:52 GMT -8
Carpenter= BP pitching machine again At the Battle of Coral Sea, Japan sent the Shōkaku and Zuikaku, the two most advanced Japanes carriers, to take Port Moresby. It was the first time that they committed only two aircraft carriers to an attack like that. The Shōkaku and the Zuikaku failed to take Port Moresby and sank the Lexington. But the Shōkaku had been hit three times, was so badly damaged that she almost capsized in a storm and could not participate in Midway. The Zuikaku lost all but 36 of its airplanes and so was also unavailable for Midway. The Zuikaku had to leave the area. The Japanese still went forward with the invasion, until a very hobbled Yorktown was seen by Japanese aircraft making what was merely a feint toward Port Moresby. At that point, the Japanese called off the naval invasion and instead set off on simultaneous ruinous invasions of Midway and Port Moresby overalnd. By destroying the Lexington, the Japanese had scored a tactical victory. However, the Americans had bluffed off the invasion of Port Moresby and had weekend the Kidō Butai sufficiently that the Americans were able to destroy all four carriers in one foul swoop at Midway. In the final analysis, if Port Moresby was important enough to send two carriers, at least four should have been committed. Not committing sufficient resources to win cost Japan the majority of its carrier fleet and handed the Americans the carrier advantage for more than three months, which was all the time that the United States needed, in order to build up Henderson Field and begin launching next generation carriers. That is all to say that Japan taking its foot off the gas and not committing sufficient resources cost it what should have been an easy win and led to additional subsequent losses, which led to a loss of World War II. Oregon State started the ninth with Carpenter and then went with Victor Quinn before going to Ryan Brown. If Ryan Brown was an option, he should have started the ninth or been put in at any point before Victor Quinn threw his four-pitch walk. Brown should not have been put in in a six-run game with the bases juiced. Brown gave up three runs in the ninth, which would have won the game for Oregon State at the start of the ninth or at any point before Quinn pitched. And then Gavin Logan would not gotten have in the ninth. And then Justin Boyd would have gotten hurt in a game that he did not need to play in. Very bad coaching there. I see what the intent was, but pitching Carpenter against a team with a pulse is like playing catch with 200-year-old dynamite.
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Post by Judge Smails on May 29, 2022 5:16:41 GMT -8
Carpenter= BP pitching machine again At the Battle of Coral Sea, Japan sent the Shōkaku and Zuikaku, the two most advanced Japanes carriers, to take Port Moresby. It was the first time that they committed only two aircraft carriers to an attack like that. The Shōkaku and the Zuikaku failed to take Port Moresby and sank the Lexington. But the Shōkaku had been hit three times, was so badly damaged that she almost capsized in a storm and could not participate in Midway. The Zuikaku lost all but 36 of its airplanes and so was also unavailable for Midway. The Zuikaku had to leave the area. The Japanese still went forward with the invasion, until a very hobbled Yorktown was seen by Japanese aircraft making what was merely a feint toward Port Moresby. At that point, the Japanese called off the naval invasion and instead set off on simultaneous ruinous invasions of Midway and Port Moresby overalnd. By destroying the Lexington, the Japanese had scored a tactical victory. However, the Americans had bluffed off the invasion of Port Moresby and had weekend the Kidō Butai sufficiently that the Americans were able to destroy all four carriers in one foul swoop at Midway. In the final analysis, if Port Moresby was important enough to send two carriers, at least four should have been committed. Not committing sufficient resources to win cost Japan the majority of its carrier fleet and handed the Americans the carrier advantage for more than three months, which was all the time that the United States needed, in order to build up Henderson Field and begin launching next generation carriers. That is all to say that Japan taking its foot off the gas and not committing sufficient resources cost it what should have been an easy win and led to additional subsequent losses, which led to a loss of World War II. Oregon State started the ninth with Carpenter and then went with Victor Quinn before going to Ryan Brown. If Ryan Brown was an option, he should have started the ninth or been put in at any point before Victor Quinn threw his four-pitch walk. Brown should not have been put in in a six-run game with the bases juiced. Brown gave up three runs in the ninth, which would have won the game for Oregon State at the start of the ninth or at any point before Quinn pitched. And then Gavin Logan would not gotten have in the ninth. And then Justin Boyd would have gotten hurt in a game that he did not need to play in. Very bad coaching there. I see what the intent was, but pitching Carpenter against a team with a pulse is like playing catch with 200-year-old dynamite. That is some crazy hindsight. Any pitcher on our roster should be able to get 3 outs without giving up 9 runs in the 9th. Blaming MC for that collapse is absurd.
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