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Post by irimi on May 27, 2022 15:46:21 GMT -8
Maybe because Kmatz has been pulling his weight all season long. He’s got the confidence that a season of work will bring. So is Pfennigs ready to take over the #2 spot? I’ll let Dorman decide. He should know. If we want to win the tourney, pitch Kmatz tomorrow and Pfennigs on Sunday. It’s what we’ve been doing and it has been (more or less) successful. If we don’t care about getting any more wins, then I’d pitch Kmatz tomorrow and let Lattery start Sunday. We’re going to need to get some innings out of Lattery, Hibbard, and Lawson, I think. And any innings in the tourney will help them later. So everyone is assuming we win game #1 tomorrow? There's a chance we have to throw 2 starters tomorrow. I thought about that briefly. OK, let’s start by assuming Canham thinks it’s best for the team to win it all, which I sort of agree with. Then I through Kmatz Saturday game 1 and give it all for the win. If we lose, then we throw Lattery, Hibbard, or Lawson in game 2, saving Pfennigs for Sunday. For relief, I’d like to see Ferrer saved for Sunday to back up Pfennigs, if necessary. |
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Post by ricke71 on May 27, 2022 15:59:47 GMT -8
Kmatz tomorrow - one of the few truly Hot Weather players on the roster. Plus his parents live only 407 miles from Scottsdale.
Win tomorrow, and Sunday matters very little (compared to next Friday at Goss) - I'm good with Lattery / whole-staff on Sunday.
June 3 is the next game that really means anything.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 27, 2022 16:03:00 GMT -8
So everyone is assuming we win game #1 tomorrow? There's a chance we have to throw 2 starters tomorrow. I thought about that briefly. OK, let’s start by assuming Canham thinks it’s best for the team to win it all, which I sort of agree with. Then I through Kmatz Saturday game 1 and give it all for the win. If we lose, then we throw Lattery, Hibbard, or Lawson in game 2, saving Pfennigs for Sunday. For relief, I’d like to see Ferrer saved for Sunday to back up Pfennigs, if necessary. It really depends on how that first game ends and how long it is between the first game and second game. If Stanford wins, and we lose the first game, Oregon State plays in the next game. Oregon State would be the away team against UCLA and the home team against California in game one. In game two, that switches. Oregon State would be the home team in game two against UCLA and the away team against California. If Stanford wins and the Beavers lose to the Bruins, you could just have the pitcher that closed out the UCLA loss start the next game fresh and then go Johnny Wholestaff. That would be more difficult to pull off against California and would be next-to-impossible, if Stanford lost. However, generally, you would want Kmatz to start one game on Saturday and Pfennigs to throw the other game, because you want them fresh for the probable Corvallis Regional. And saving either for Sunday, if there are two games on Saturday does not make a ton of sense looking at the big picture. Besides, you have a very fresh Brock Townsend that can start against Stanford with a very fresh Mitchell Verburg to back him up. That is not 100% ideal, but no team has a deeper stable of great arms than Oregon State. If this were a Regional, or if Oregon State desperately needed a Conference Championship, I probably would approach it differently. A Pac-12 Tournament Championship Trophy is nothing to sneeze at, but I want to set up for the Regional, because I want that National Championship Trophy to make its way from Omaha to Corvallis. |
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Post by ricke71 on May 27, 2022 16:14:24 GMT -8
Kmatz tomorrow - one of the few truly Hot Weather players on the roster. Plus his parents live only 407 miles from Scottsdale. Win tomorrow, and Sunday matters very little (compared to next Friday at Goss) - I'm good with Lattery / whole-staff on Sunday. June 3 is the next game that really means anything. Tomorrow and Sunday are moot - kapoot - of no consequence....other than a meaningless 1st Ever PAC Conference Tourney Championship. A Tourney that, going in, had meaning primarily for Cal / ASU / UW...because winning it was their only road to post-season. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 27, 2022 16:18:19 GMT -8
Why would Pfennings be less rested throwing Sunday? It's his normal start.
And, the Townsend that got rocked 1/3 of an inning vs UW is the pick to start Sunday? Hmmmm
IF, you're playing a 2nd game Saturday it's versus a team that's played an extra game. If Cal, a team with far inferior overall staff. If UCLA, a team taking it a bit easy to rest folks. OSU should be able to beat either without Pfennings.
If not big deal. But, it depends on the coaching staff. How much risk do you take trying to win this. Not only pitching... heat aggravates and can lead to injuries all around.
This is a learning exercise in terms of how to handle this. It'll be interesting to see how all the teams handle it. But most want to win.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 27, 2022 17:22:45 GMT -8
Why would Pfennings be less rested throwing Sunday? It's his normal start. And, the Townsend that got rocked 1/3 of an inning vs UW is the pick to start Sunday? Hmmmm IF, you're playing a 2nd game Saturday it's versus a team that's played an extra game. If Cal, a team with far inferior overall staff. If UCLA, a team taking it a bit easy to rest folks. OSU should be able to beat either without Pfennings. If not big deal. But, it depends on the coaching staff. How much risk do you take trying to win this. Not only pitching... heat aggravates and can lead to injuries all around. This is a learning exercise in terms of how to handle this. It'll be interesting to see how all the teams handle it. But most want to win. Is this to me? I meant for the week following. You want to win, but it is more important to set up for the Corvallis Regional. You want to error on giving your starters more rest for the Regional. You want to win but not at the expense of the Corvallis Regional. |
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Post by ricke71 on May 27, 2022 17:38:14 GMT -8
Why would Pfennings be less rested throwing Sunday? It's his normal start. And, the Townsend that got rocked 1/3 of an inning vs UW is the pick to start Sunday? Hmmmm IF, you're playing a 2nd game Saturday it's versus a team that's played an extra game. If Cal, a team with far inferior overall staff. If UCLA, a team taking it a bit easy to rest folks. OSU should be able to beat either without Pfennings. If not big deal. But, it depends on the coaching staff. How much risk do you take trying to win this. Not only pitching... heat aggravates and can lead to injuries all around. This is a learning exercise in terms of how to handle this. It'll be interesting to see how all the teams handle it. But most want to win. Is this to me? I meant for the week following. You want to win, but it is more important to set up for the Corvallis Regional. You want to error on giving your starters more rest for the Regional. You want to win but not at the expense of the Corvallis Regional. The PAC-12 tourney going forward no longer matters. Pitch whoever, and let the offense decide things. Give Mason Guerra another chance. The next game that 'counts' is Friday, June 3, at Goss. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 27, 2022 17:39:56 GMT -8
Is this to me? I meant for the week following. You want to win, but it is more important to set up for the Corvallis Regional. You want to error on giving your starters more rest for the Regional. You want to win but not at the expense of the Corvallis Regional. The PAC-12 tourney going forward no longer matters. Pitch whoever, and let the offense decide things. Give Mason Guerra another chance. The next game that 'counts' is Friday, June 3, at Goss. I don’t think we’re ready to pitch Mason Guerra at this point. |
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Post by beaver1989 on May 27, 2022 19:43:06 GMT -8
The PAC-12 tourney going forward no longer matters. Pitch whoever, and let the offense decide things. Give Mason Guerra another chance. The next game that 'counts' is Friday, June 3, at Goss. I don’t think we’re ready to pitch Mason Guerra at this point. Lol I'm pretty sure ricke71 wants Guerra filling the DH spot instead Fuchs. Not Guerra taking the mound either Saturday & Sunday. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 27, 2022 20:11:43 GMT -8
Hahahahaha! He’s a talented guy.
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Post by irimi on May 28, 2022 6:31:12 GMT -8
Here’s an idea. UCLA is sure to pitch their best. What if we play for the loss and save Kmatz for the second game? Then Pfennigs tomorrow?
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Post by beavermd on May 28, 2022 7:54:28 GMT -8
I’m expecting Pfennigs to pitch today. That sets him up to throw game 2 of the regional on 7 days rest. Kmatz has had a solid season, but he’s struggled his last couple starts, and the staff isn’t as comfortable letting him go deep into games.
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on May 28, 2022 8:10:01 GMT -8
Why would Pfennings be less rested throwing Sunday? It's his normal start. And, the Townsend that got rocked 1/3 of an inning vs UW is the pick to start Sunday? Hmmmm IF, you're playing a 2nd game Saturday it's versus a team that's played an extra game. If Cal, a team with far inferior overall staff. If UCLA, a team taking it a bit easy to rest folks. OSU should be able to beat either without Pfennings. If not big deal. But, it depends on the coaching staff. How much risk do you take trying to win this. Not only pitching... heat aggravates and can lead to injuries all around. This is a learning exercise in terms of how to handle this. It'll be interesting to see how all the teams handle it. But most want to win. Yep.....all four teams left standing in the Pac-12 are in the regional with OSU and Stanford being national seeds. I just don’t see any of the coaches risking their starting pitching and key bullpen for any of the remaining Pac-12 tourney games.....guessing that the games might be a higher scoring affair |
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Post by pabeaver on May 28, 2022 8:55:27 GMT -8
I doubt a pitching coach would change the rotation at this point in the season. Change it and you plant a seed of doubt that you don’t think one pitcher or another is good enough to get the job done.
Either you pull them and save them for the regional, which I don’t think is going to happen, or you keep them in the same rotation.
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Post by beavermd on May 28, 2022 10:45:20 GMT -8
I’m expecting Pfennigs to pitch today. That sets him up to throw game 2 of the regional on 7 days rest. Kmatz has had a solid season, but he’s struggled his last couple starts, and the staff isn’t as comfortable letting him go deep into games. Pfennigs gets the start. This was the obvious decision. |
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