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Post by hottubbeaver on May 27, 2022 11:24:41 GMT -8
An interesting scenario lining up.
Our lone win of Stanford series came from the Saturday game with Kmatz the starter (Brown was credited with the W). So do we think about saving him for a potential Stanford series? To ad further intrigue to the decision, we dropped the Saturday games to both Cal and UCLA (Carpenter and Townsend tagged with the L's respectively). Do you think about throwing Pfennings vs Cal or UCLA given prior results and save Kmatz for a potential Stanford rematch given his prior result vs trees?
Stanford didn't see Pfennings so there's that. The Sunday game of series vs trees, in retrospect, was for the conference championship. I believe that was Lattery's last outing. He went 4.0 gave up 3 ER and was relieved with OSU holding a 1 run lead. He's supposedly back and ready to see action so another intriguing element.
Pfennings produced our loan win vs UCLA, so there is that to consider if we should face them again..
So what do you do?
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Post by messi on May 27, 2022 11:26:42 GMT -8
An interesting scenario lining up. Our lone win of Stanford series came from the Saturday game with Kmatz the starter (Brown was credited with the W). So do we think about saving him for a potential Stanford series? To ad further intrigue to the decision, we dropped the Saturday games to both Cal and UCLA (Carpenter and Townsend tagged with the L's respectively). Do you think about throwing Pfennings vs Cal or UCLA given prior results and save Kmatz for a potential Stanford rematch given his prior result vs trees? Stanford didn't see Pfennings so there's that. The Sunday game of series vs trees, in retrospect, was for the conference championship. I believe that was Lattery's last outing. He went 4.0 gave up 3 ER and was relieved with OSU holding a 1 run lead. He's supposedly back and ready to see action so another intriguing element. Pfennings produced our loan win vs UCLA, so there is that to consider if we should face them again.. So what do you do? Kmatz first, then Pfennigs. |
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Post by 56chevy on May 27, 2022 12:07:31 GMT -8
Unless the staff anticipates moving Pfinnigs up to two in the rotation next weekend, stick with what we are doing. Another option would be to start Kmatz tomorrow, let Sunday be an all bullpen day and then have Pfinning ready to go in game one in the Regional.
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Post by Judge Smails on May 27, 2022 12:09:17 GMT -8
An interesting scenario lining up. Our lone win of Stanford series came from the Saturday game with Kmatz the starter (Brown was credited with the W). So do we think about saving him for a potential Stanford series? To ad further intrigue to the decision, we dropped the Saturday games to both Cal and UCLA (Carpenter and Townsend tagged with the L's respectively). Do you think about throwing Pfennings vs Cal or UCLA given prior results and save Kmatz for a potential Stanford rematch given his prior result vs trees? Stanford didn't see Pfennings so there's that. The Sunday game of series vs trees, in retrospect, was for the conference championship. I believe that was Lattery's last outing. He went 4.0 gave up 3 ER and was relieved with OSU holding a 1 run lead. He's supposedly back and ready to see action so another intriguing element. Pfennings produced our loan win vs UCLA, so there is that to consider if we should face them again.. So what do you do? Kmatz first, then Pfennigs. Definitely. You can't save someone for Stanford, because if you lose the first game tomorrow, you have to play a double-header and you would end up pitching both of them anyway. |
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Post by vhalum92 on May 27, 2022 12:17:37 GMT -8
Agreed, you go with the guy who wins you the game on Saturday... Sunday's matchups can't be the driving force because you have to win Saturday for that to pan out.
I vote Pfennings on Saturday because I think he is our #2 guy and time for him to take that spot as we go into Regionals. Nothing to do with Pac 12 matchups. I think he is the best chance at a starter eating innings and holding the other team down.
I think Mitch pivoted during the UCLA game when he went to Ferrer and Brown for 2 innings in a non save opportunity. In post season play, you win the game in front of you and figure the rest out later.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 27, 2022 12:22:40 GMT -8
Seems to me that keeping the rotation the same would make most sense
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Post by vhalum92 on May 27, 2022 12:25:51 GMT -8
Keeping it the same as before Pfennings went down or after? What is the rational for keeping it the same after he came back? If we are fortunate enough to get to a Super regional why wouldn't you pitch your best 2 guys in the first two games and go for the sweep out of the gate?
To do that, it would be best to have them on a full 7 days of rest. This is the chance to move Pfennings to #2 and get him his full rest before the Saturday games of the Regional and eventually the Supers.
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Post by irimi on May 27, 2022 12:46:16 GMT -8
Keeping it the same as before Pfennings went down or after? What is the rational for keeping it the same after he came back? If we are fortunate enough to get to a Super regional why wouldn't you pitch your best 2 guys in the first two games and go for the sweep out of the gate? To do that, it would be best to have them on a full 7 days of rest. This is the chance to move Pfennings to #2 and get him his full rest before the Saturday games of the Regional and eventually the Supers. Maybe because Kmatz has been pulling his weight all season long. He’s got the confidence that a season of work will bring. So is Pfennigs ready to take over the #2 spot? I’ll let Dorman decide. He should know. If we want to win the tourney, pitch Kmatz tomorrow and Pfennigs on Sunday. It’s what we’ve been doing and it has been (more or less) successful. If we don’t care about getting any more wins, then I’d pitch Kmatz tomorrow and let Lattery start Sunday. We’re going to need to get some innings out of Lattery, Hibbard, and Lawson, I think. And any innings in the tourney will help them later. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 27, 2022 12:49:45 GMT -8
Keeping it the same as before Pfennings went down or after? What is the rational for keeping it the same after he came back? If we are fortunate enough to get to a Super regional why wouldn't you pitch your best 2 guys in the first two games and go for the sweep out of the gate? To do that, it would be best to have them on a full 7 days of rest. This is the chance to move Pfennings to #2 and get him his full rest before the Saturday games of the Regional and eventually the Supers. Kmatz has been Saturday pretty much all season and done a damn fine job.....Pfennings has slowly come back on Sunday and looks great.....why mess with that now? |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 27, 2022 13:03:28 GMT -8
Keeping it the same as before Pfennings went down or after? What is the rational for keeping it the same after he came back? If we are fortunate enough to get to a Super regional why wouldn't you pitch your best 2 guys in the first two games and go for the sweep out of the gate? To do that, it would be best to have them on a full 7 days of rest. This is the chance to move Pfennings to #2 and get him his full rest before the Saturday games of the Regional and eventually the Supers. Maybe because Kmatz has been pulling his weight all season long. He’s got the confidence that a season of work will bring. So is Pfennigs ready to take over the #2 spot? I’ll let Dorman decide. He should know. If we want to win the tourney, pitch Kmatz tomorrow and Pfennigs on Sunday. It’s what we’ve been doing and it has been (more or less) successful. If we don’t care about getting any more wins, then I’d pitch Kmatz tomorrow and let Lattery start Sunday. We’re going to need to get some innings out of Lattery, Hibbard, and Lawson, I think. And any innings in the tourney will help them later. So everyone is assuming we win game #1 tomorrow? There's a chance we have to throw 2 starters tomorrow. |
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on May 27, 2022 13:13:03 GMT -8
My choice would be Kmatz. I just don’t think Pfennigs is quite there yet. I would rather get the W tomorrow and save a game then have the bullpen get stretched out for the Pac-12 tourney. Getting out of our regional is the next big step in what has been a great season so far
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Post by william44 on May 27, 2022 13:14:06 GMT -8
We need to win Tomorrow. Will it be Cal over ucla today?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 27, 2022 13:29:49 GMT -8
An interesting scenario lining up. Our lone win of Stanford series came from the Saturday game with Kmatz the starter (Brown was credited with the W). So do we think about saving him for a potential Stanford series? To ad further intrigue to the decision, we dropped the Saturday games to both Cal and UCLA (Carpenter and Townsend tagged with the L's respectively). Do you think about throwing Pfennings vs Cal or UCLA given prior results and save Kmatz for a potential Stanford rematch given his prior result vs trees? Stanford didn't see Pfennings so there's that. The Sunday game of series vs trees, in retrospect, was for the conference championship. I believe that was Lattery's last outing. He went 4.0 gave up 3 ER and was relieved with OSU holding a 1 run lead. He's supposedly back and ready to see action so another intriguing element. Pfennings produced our loan win vs UCLA, so there is that to consider if we should face them again.. So what do you do? My general thought is that Oregon State is two wins away from a Pac-12 Championship. We want that. To that end, it depends on who wins between California and UCLA. If California wins, I want Kmatz to throw. Kmatz did a great job against California. I trust that he is all the pitcher that Oregon State needs against a California that is not going to have much left in the tank. Win and Pfennigs goes against Stanford or the Arizonas in the Championship Game. Lose, and Pfennigs shuts down California in game two. If UCLA wins, I want Pfennigs to throw. Pfennigs did great against UCLA last time, whereas Kmatz struggled. Save Kmatz for the Championship Game. If UCLA wins, Kmatz throws for redemption against the Bruins in game two. That is not ideal, but I do not think that there is a better option. I am 100% sold on Kmatz throwing against California. I think about switching Kmatz and Pfennigs around against UCLA, depending on how the morning game shakes out. |
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Post by vhalum92 on May 27, 2022 14:02:00 GMT -8
Not trying to go tit for tat... I'm not the coach.. just a fan with an opinion based in watching Beaver Baseball closely.
Pfennings was the #2 guy at the beginning of the year.
Kmatz is a freshman and I think he is running into that freshman wall.... it is a long season for an 18-19 year old. I think the kid is great and is our future guy but if he is running out of gas... not alot anyone can do.
Kmatz last 3 starts.
IP ER SO Team Result
UCLA 4.1 4 1 Loss
Arizona 6.0 3 4 Loss
Oregon 3.0 3 4 Win
Pfennings last 3 starts.
IP ER SO Team Result
UCLA 6.1 3 5 Win
Arizona 2.2 1 2 Loss
Oregon 5.0 0 6 Win
My opinion in the last 3 games Pfennings has given up fewer earned runs and won more strikeouts.
Going further back is ok too but they were certainly building up Pfennings pitch count.
In that Arizona game we were up 5-1 at the end of the 4th. Then the bullpen lost it...
Anyway, I see an improving Pfennings that gives us the best chance to win on Saturdays both tomorrow and moving forward into the playoffs.
Just my opinion... loving that Lattery should be back but he is going to need some pitches to build back up and this team really needs some solid middle of the game bullpen relief.
Go BEAVS!
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 27, 2022 15:22:50 GMT -8
An interesting scenario lining up. Our lone win of Stanford series came from the Saturday game with Kmatz the starter (Brown was credited with the W). So do we think about saving him for a potential Stanford series? To ad further intrigue to the decision, we dropped the Saturday games to both Cal and UCLA (Carpenter and Townsend tagged with the L's respectively). Do you think about throwing Pfennings vs Cal or UCLA given prior results and save Kmatz for a potential Stanford rematch given his prior result vs trees? Stanford didn't see Pfennings so there's that. The Sunday game of series vs trees, in retrospect, was for the conference championship. I believe that was Lattery's last outing. He went 4.0 gave up 3 ER and was relieved with OSU holding a 1 run lead. He's supposedly back and ready to see action so another intriguing element. Pfennings produced our loan win vs UCLA, so there is that to consider if we should face them again.. So what do you do? I’d prefer to have Kmatz go against a tired loser bracket team and pfennigs take on Stanford (just assuming they win). If We can’t get the win tomorrow then having Pfennigs for elimination gives us the best chance to stay in. |
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