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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 12, 2022 15:43:00 GMT -8
First off, runs and RBI are overrated individual statistics. They make sense looking at runs and RBI out of the whole but do not make much sense looking at by themselves. 2021 only scored one extra run in six extra games than 2022. The problem is that Claunch did not have Logan's team support. Claunch scored 7.8% of the runs that Oregon State has scored in 2021 and drove in 10.1% of the RBI. Logan scored 6% of the runs that Oregon State has scored and drove in 10.3% of the RBI. What about in conference play? Claunch hit .370 in 2021. SLG% of .519. OB% of .430. OPS of .949. Logan is hitting .283 in 2022. SLG% of .500. OB% of .377. OPS of .877. Logan is showing more power than Claunch. But Claunch finished the 2021 regular season on a 15-game conference hitting streak and a 23-game conference on-base streak. Claunch hit safely in 22 of the 27 Pac-12 games that he started and reached safely in 25 of the 28 games that he played. (Claunch was hurt for two of the Wazzu games.) Logan has hit safely in three consecutive Pac-12 games and reached in five consecutive games. Even if he hits/reaches in the next six games, he does not catch Claunch. Logan has only started three games in a weekend twice: the opener in Surprise and Wazzu. Logan only played in all three games one other time, when he had a ninth inning strikeout against Arizona State (out #2 in the ninth). Now let's see your stat on how many of Claunch's passed balls last year led to runs. Didn't I do that last year? And wasn't the number like one the entire season? I forget. You can re-read my posts from last year. Most are gems. |
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Post by qbeaver on May 12, 2022 16:11:20 GMT -8
Is it me,or have our catchers done a better job in 2022 not allowing as many passed balls,and wild pitches as 2021?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 12, 2022 18:42:58 GMT -8
Is it me,or have our catchers done a better job in 2022 not allowing as many passed balls,and wild pitches as 2021? We cut our walks down dramatically. Which means we're throwing many more strikes. Which greatly reduces the chances of passed balls and wild pitches. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 12, 2022 20:32:19 GMT -8
Is it me,or have our catchers done a better job in 2022 not allowing as many passed balls,and wild pitches as 2021? We cut our walks down dramatically. Which means we're throwing many more strikes. Which greatly reduces the chances of passed balls and wild pitches. Troy vs SEC pitching is basically as good or better than OSUs two catchers combined. Nothing really missed, but certainly nothing gained. |
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Post by irimi on May 12, 2022 20:39:49 GMT -8
So I did a little looking because I knew Wilky would. LOL Last year, in 348 at bats, Claunch hit .305. He scored 26 runs (10.3% of his at bats) and he had 30 RBIs (8.6% of his at bats). This year, Logan has had 110 at bats. He is hitting .300. He has scored 20 runs (18%) and has knocked in 25 RBIs (23%). Logan's slugging percentage is 455 to Claunch's 399. Logan's on base percentage is 391 to Claunch's 379. Claunch may be having a good year this year, but I am happy with what we have. First off, runs and RBI are overrated individual statistics. They make sense looking at runs and RBI out of the whole but do not make much sense looking at by themselves. 2021 only scored one extra run in six extra games than 2022. The problem is that Claunch did not have Logan's team support. Claunch scored 7.8% of the runs that Oregon State has scored in 2021 and drove in 10.1% of the RBI. Logan scored 6% of the runs that Oregon State has scored and drove in 10.3% of the RBI. What about in conference play? Claunch hit .370 in 2021. SLG% of .519. OB% of .430. OPS of .949. Logan is hitting .283 in 2022. SLG% of .500. OB% of .377. OPS of .877. Logan is showing more power than Claunch. But Claunch finished the 2021 regular season on a 15-game conference hitting streak and a 23-game conference on-base streak. Claunch hit safely in 22 of the 27 Pac-12 games that he started and reached safely in 25 of the 28 games that he played. (Claunch was hurt for two of the Wazzu games.) Logan has hit safely in three consecutive Pac-12 games and reached in five consecutive games. Even if he hits/reaches in the next six games, he does not catch Claunch. Logan has only started three games in a weekend twice: the opener in Surprise and Wazzu. Logan only played in all three games one other time, when he had a ninth inning strikeout against Arizona State (out #2 in the ninth). You seem to think that I produced the stats to prove undoubtedly that Logan is better. Nope. My bottom line is that I am happy with Logan and I don’t miss Claunch at all. I’m also happy with Smith. I don’t like comparing what Claunch is currently doing on another team in another division with what Logan is doing here at home for many reasons, not the least of which is rpi and ranking. But also weather and the fact that Claunch has had a ton of experience. I think both Logan and Smith have the ability to surpass what Claunch did in a Beaver uniform. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 12, 2022 20:47:34 GMT -8
First off, runs and RBI are overrated individual statistics. They make sense looking at runs and RBI out of the whole but do not make much sense looking at by themselves. 2021 only scored one extra run in six extra games than 2022. The problem is that Claunch did not have Logan's team support. Claunch scored 7.8% of the runs that Oregon State has scored in 2021 and drove in 10.1% of the RBI. Logan scored 6% of the runs that Oregon State has scored and drove in 10.3% of the RBI. What about in conference play? Claunch hit .370 in 2021. SLG% of .519. OB% of .430. OPS of .949. Logan is hitting .283 in 2022. SLG% of .500. OB% of .377. OPS of .877. Logan is showing more power than Claunch. But Claunch finished the 2021 regular season on a 15-game conference hitting streak and a 23-game conference on-base streak. Claunch hit safely in 22 of the 27 Pac-12 games that he started and reached safely in 25 of the 28 games that he played. (Claunch was hurt for two of the Wazzu games.) Logan has hit safely in three consecutive Pac-12 games and reached in five consecutive games. Even if he hits/reaches in the next six games, he does not catch Claunch. Logan has only started three games in a weekend twice: the opener in Surprise and Wazzu. Logan only played in all three games one other time, when he had a ninth inning strikeout against Arizona State (out #2 in the ninth). You seem to think that I produced the stats to prove undoubtedly that Logan is better. Nope. My bottom line is that I am happy with Logan and I don’t miss Claunch at all. I’m also happy with Smith. I don’t like comparing what Claunch is currently doing on another team in another division with what Logan is doing here at home for many reasons, not the least of which is rpi and ranking. But also weather and the fact that Claunch has had a ton of experience. I think both Logan and Smith have the ability to surpass what Claunch did in a Beaver uniform. I agree with you about upside potential. Claunch being gone gives Logan and Smith their time to shine. |
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Post by babeav on May 12, 2022 20:50:23 GMT -8
Loved Troys game except for receiving with his kickstand down. I felt his mobility was limited when he needed to move side to side. Logan uses the more traditional squat which leads to fewer passed balls.
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Post by irimi on May 12, 2022 20:56:48 GMT -8
Is it me,or have our catchers done a better job in 2022 not allowing as many passed balls,and wild pitches as 2021? We cut our walks down dramatically. Which means we're throwing many more strikes. Which greatly reduces the chances of passed balls and wild pitches. Sure looks true on the surface, but there are lots of strikes that aren’t in the zone. Sometimes batters swing at the damnedest things. |
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Post by beaver1989 on May 12, 2022 21:44:15 GMT -8
There's more to catching than hitting. Both Logan and Smith are better receivers than Claunch. There were a lot of passed balls last year. I agree with that. Logan's a better true catcher. Claunch is a more consistent hitter. Claunch could catch and DH on our squad with no problem. A Claunch / Logan combination would've been sweet. Two solid hitters with a good eye, plus one is RH while the other LH , which would've given Mitch Slick a lot of maneuverability in lineups. Our 1-7 batting order would've had great flexibility, leaving only 2 weak bats.(The 3rd & SS dilemma.) |
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