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Post by badwack on Apr 29, 2022 11:48:44 GMT -8
Facts are the Utah Ace was average, relief worse. Not scoring a run in the 8th with no one out was a crime. Get the damn run with a Squeeze. Concerns are the same. Bottom of the order are just place holders. Melton is not driving the ball. Bazzana is not driving the ball. Donkey is coming around. Cooper might want to starting hitting for himself!
Terrible loss!
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Post by grovestbeav on Apr 29, 2022 11:49:15 GMT -8
All the talk about the bottom of the order slacking. The offense has really taken a nose dive since Jacob Melton stopped driving the ball. Better yet. Driving in runners. His BA has stayed relatively high. But lots of dinkers, infield hits or legged doubles mixed in there.
At least we can finally get some fresh blood at 3rd base. Cant see how Dukart maintains his position after today.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Apr 29, 2022 11:50:51 GMT -8
And OF COURSE after not getting a simple fly ball sac fly, everyone flies out in the 9th.....naturally. Just not the kind of game you can afford to lose w/ such great pitching for us and knowing how high the goals are this season. Totally, you could never win a national championship after losing 2 of 3 in Salt Lake City......... I see what ya did there lol. Yes anything is possible. But losing this series would certainly make the odds more steep if the goal is to be the national champions. |
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Apr 29, 2022 11:52:52 GMT -8
Losing a game 100 people attend (and at least half in orange) makes it even worse. No one cares about Utah baseball. Hopefully we can stay away from, early start time excuses, and degrading the team/program that just played an outstanding game to beat the #2 team in the country? I think too many posters on sites like this tend to forget that there is another team out there trying to win. Its always what OSU did wrong and never what the other team did well to win. You'd think that every team OSU plays is the worst team out there based on some of the comments. Last time I checked OSU is 32-9 and still leads the PAC 12. Hasn't lost consecutive games this season. Only lost 1 series all season. Funny to see the reactions of posters. Just my 2 cents.. sure other posters will disagree |
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 29, 2022 12:08:59 GMT -8
Facts are the Utah Ace was average, relief worse. Not scoring a run in the 8th with no one out was a crime. Get the damn run with a Squeeze. Concerns are the same. Bottom of the order are just place holders. Melton is not driving the ball. Bazzana is not driving the ball. Donkey is coming around. Cooper might want to starting hitting for himself! Terrible loss! Squeezing with the bases loaded is never a good idea. |
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Post by tamatrix on Apr 29, 2022 12:10:19 GMT -8
Agreed on no squeeze....just need to ATTACK first ball that's close to a strike and hit it hard somewhere...but we watched 2 strikes and fell in 1-2 hole. Can't do that.
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Post by beaver1989 on Apr 29, 2022 12:10:46 GMT -8
Hopefully we can stay away from, early start time excuses, and degrading the team/program that just played an outstanding game to beat the #2 team in the country? I think too many posters on sites like this tend to forget that there is another team out there trying to win. Its always what OSU did wrong and never what the other team did well to win. You'd think that every team OSU plays is the worst team out there based on some of the comments. Last time I checked OSU is 32-9 and still leads the PAC 12. Hasn't lost consecutive games this season. Only lost 1 series all season. Funny to see the reactions of posters. Just my 2 cents.. sure other posters will disagree We're reacting that way because our offense isn't getting it done, against pitching that isn't that special. Our pitchers have to be perfect, which is an almost impossible achievement to accomplish.(See Hjerpe's perfect game through 6 innings for a reference.) |
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Post by joecool on Apr 29, 2022 12:13:00 GMT -8
All the talk about the bottom of the order slacking. The offense has really taken a nose dive since Jacob Melton stopped driving the ball. Better yet. Driving in runners. His BA has stayed relatively high. But lots of dinkers, infield hits or legged doubles mixed in there. At least we can finally get some fresh blood at 3rd base. Cant see how Dukart maintains his position after today. Recommendation for 3B?. Either someone can't hit, or they can't field, we are this deep into the season and there isn't a reliable 3B on this team. |
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Post by tamatrix on Apr 29, 2022 12:20:36 GMT -8
Dukart is absolutely the right answer at this point....Trosky, Gretler, Myro and Guerra have got opportunity to take a spot on the left side of the infield and for one reason or the other, haven't taken it.
Dukart's strongest skill is his glove and arm and although I could argue as well he could/should have made that play on the 2B...he's made several very good plays in the last couple of weeks that I'd argue no one else makes at 3B.....coupled with fact he's 9 for last 25 (last 8 games) he's been hitting pretty well lately too.
I could buy trying Trosky a bit more over Kyle at SS, but feel like at this point it is what it is
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Post by beaver1989 on Apr 29, 2022 12:23:24 GMT -8
Well, 8, 9, 1 to keep this thing going... Good news these pitchers aren't swing and miss types. OSU just needs some patience, see some pitches and find a couple holes! Jeez US... what a wasted opportunity. Not only lose, the Utes will be sky high after beating #2 OSU, former OSU assistant leading them, beating OSU's/Pac12's best pitcher who was perfect thru 6 innings. The recent results, excluding today have never changed my mind that OSU is a very average offensive team vs good competition. Unless they get some freebies (BB and Es) they do not have a complete lineup. OSU has some very productive hitters, but, we've been highly inconsistent vs pitchers that can command off speed stuff. Runners on: OSU (2-12), Utah (2-5)... Utes 3-27 (.111) overall... when matters! OSU with (12) fly ball outs... that's not our game. Today we looked impatient, with swings early in the count and trying to do more with a pitch location vs going with it. This one hurts. Saturday morning a must win. Great f%#*ing post! Plus don't get me going about the "bunt for a hit" attempts by Meckler, Bazzana, & Boyd in the first few innings. It'll just piss me off. We should've been working the pitch count & looking to rake, instead of looking for cheap hits on a fairly fast grass infield. It looked passive, which I don't like one bit coming down the stretch in the Pac. |
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Post by beaver1989 on Apr 29, 2022 12:29:13 GMT -8
Dukart is absolutely the right answer at this point....Trosky, Gretler, Myro and Guerra have got opportunity to take a spot on the left side of the infield and for one reason or the other, haven't taken it. Dukart's strongest skill is his glove and arm and although I could argue as well he could/should have made that play on the 2B...he's made several very good plays in the last couple of weeks that I'd argue no one else makes at 3B.....coupled with fact he's 9 for last 25 (last 8 games) he's been hitting pretty well lately too. I could buy trying Trosky a bit more over Kyle at SS, but feel like at this point it is what it is Dukart stays in the lineup. From my perspective we don't really have another choice. He missed one on that douple play ball, but he's not he reason we lost. We lost because our bats scored 1 run........which is pathetic. |
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Post by tamatrix on Apr 29, 2022 12:32:32 GMT -8
Personally, I liked the Mecker/Melton/Boyd/Forrester/Bazzana lineup the best....guessing that isn't going to make a big difference but made more sense to me
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Post by grovestbeav on Apr 29, 2022 12:39:08 GMT -8
All the talk about the bottom of the order slacking. The offense has really taken a nose dive since Jacob Melton stopped driving the ball. Better yet. Driving in runners. His BA has stayed relatively high. But lots of dinkers, infield hits or legged doubles mixed in there. At least we can finally get some fresh blood at 3rd base. Cant see how Dukart maintains his position after today. Recommendation for 3B?. Either someone can't hit, or they can't field, we are this deep into the season and there isn't a reliable 3B on this team. Trosky at 3rd. Move Dernedde up in the lineup to the 2 hole and string out the bigger bats down the lineup. |
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Post by beaver1989 on Apr 29, 2022 12:48:16 GMT -8
Personally, I liked the Mecker/Melton/Boyd/Forrester/Bazzana lineup the best....guessing that isn't going to make a big difference but made more sense to me Funny you said that because I was just going to post that. You beat me to it. Nice job. The thinking on the current lineup, is better speed with Meckler, Bazzana, Melton, & Boyd at the top. However, the lineup you & like gives Melton & Forrester more at bats, while letting Freshman Bazzana "free swing" if they start putting Donkey on. It also breaks up the lefty heavy top of the order nicely.(LLRRL instead of LLLRR) |
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Post by beaver1989 on Apr 29, 2022 12:50:32 GMT -8
Recommendation for 3B?. Either someone can't hit, or they can't field, we are this deep into the season and there isn't a reliable 3B on this team. Trosky at 3rd. Move Dernedde up in the lineup to the 2 hole and string out the bigger bats down the lineup. No, Dernedde belongs at the bottom of the order. Your best hitter belongs in the 2 hole. |
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