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Post by irimi on Apr 23, 2022 16:20:08 GMT -8
Honestly, I don't know yet. Seems silly, but I'd love a chance to knock Stanford down. Chippy bastards.
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Post by messi on Apr 23, 2022 16:22:59 GMT -8
Round robin, that’s all
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 23, 2022 16:40:11 GMT -8
If we aren’t in I like the chance to get in. If we are in I’d like to see us use it to develop players for the post season run
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Post by gtflaming on Apr 23, 2022 17:37:16 GMT -8
If we aren’t in I like the chance to get in. If we are in I’d like to see us use it to develop players for the post season run I like this idea, but does our play have an impact on our seeding? i.e. if we are on the cusp of top 8 and we win or conversely does losing bump us out? |
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Post by beavaristotle on Apr 23, 2022 18:13:33 GMT -8
hate it, because it smells like Larry Scott
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 23, 2022 18:16:55 GMT -8
I hate it but there is a benefit to having one *elite 8 run in basketball
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Post by eorbeav on Apr 23, 2022 18:24:17 GMT -8
It is pointless in my opinion. Win the Pac for the automatic bid. If you can win the Pac, you are a pretty damn good team and ready for post season play. I hate change by the way.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 23, 2022 19:59:58 GMT -8
If I did a pluses and minuses list the minuses would ultimately win due to the potential toll on pitching, right before the postseason.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 23, 2022 20:59:43 GMT -8
If I did a pluses and minuses list the minuses would ultimately win due to the potential toll on pitching, right before the postseason. It's not the SEC Tournament. Why would it have a toll on pitching? Explain. Half the teams are done in three games. And you can win the thing with four straight wins. Most teams throw their midweek guy on Wednesday, their ace in game 2, their Saturday starter in game 3 and their Sunday starter in game 4. The only way that you could possibly burn up your staff, is if you are playing 6+ games Other than LSU in '18 (had to play six games in six days: the play-in game on Tuesday, the loss to Florida on Wednesday, the three games out of the losers' bracket from Thursday to Saturday and the Championship Game on Sunday), name one team that lost a Regional, because they burned up their pitching in a Tournament. Mississippi State played in two games in Hoover and won three games in the Starkville Regional, went 2-1 in the Starkville Super Regional and won a National Championship. Vandy played in three games in Hoover and coasted through the Nasville Regional and Super Regional in five games. Texas played in four games in Oklahoma City and coasted through the Austin Regional and Super Regional in five games. NC State played in four games in Charlotte and coasted through the Ruston Regional in three games en route to Omaha. Virginia played in three games in Charlotte, lost a road opener in the Columbia Regional and still had enough in the tank to win four straight in the Charlottesville Regional. Virginia lost the opener to Dallas Baptist before coming back to win two more elimination games en route to Omaha. Tennessee played in five games in Hoover and coasted through the Knoxville Regional and Super Regional in five games. Arkansas played in four games in Hoover and made it through the Fayetteville Regional in four games. Texas Tech played in three games in Oklahoma City and coasted through the Lubbock Regional in three games. Notre Dame played in two games in Charlotte and coasted through three games in the South Bend Regional Ole Miss played in five games in Hoover and then won the Oxford Regional in four games. East Carolina played in five games in Clearwater and the won the Greenville Regional in three games. LSU lost a game in Hoover and then won the Eugene Regional in five games. South Florida played in five games in Clearwater and won the Gainesville Regional in four games. Dallas Baptist played four games in Carbondale and still had enough in their tank to win the Fort Worth Regional over Oregon State. Whose staff was exactly gassed from their Conference Tournament? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 23, 2022 21:01:07 GMT -8
If we aren’t in I like the chance to get in. If we are in I’d like to see us use it to develop players for the post season run I like this idea, but does our play have an impact on our seeding? i.e. if we are on the cusp of top 8 and we win or conversely does losing bump us out? Yes. You are not seeded in the top eight until after the Tournament ends. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 23, 2022 21:35:08 GMT -8
The real reason to support the Tournament is because it levels the playing field and increases the Pac-12's RPI. It is already helping. The Pac-12 season started a week earlier than normal. You already have two teams that are in line for a National Seed (Oregon and Oregon State) and another one that is on the fringe (Stanford) with two other teams looking like pretty good bets to make the Tourney. If a sixth team runs the gauntlet in Scottsdale, the Pac-12 gets six bids. Good stuff. The Tournament should continue to increase the Pac-12's RPI throughout the season and into the Tournament.
Not having a Pac-12 Tournament is a big reason why 2016 Oregon State stayed home and is why 2012 and 2015 Oregon State had to travel for Regionals.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 24, 2022 7:31:15 GMT -8
So is the tournament extra games? Or did they eliminate some non conf games? Cuz last season we ended the reg season on May 29th against Furd. The conf tournament goes thru May 29th.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 24, 2022 8:53:07 GMT -8
Does anyone know whether the decision to hold a tournament was made with the support of the Pac 12 head baseball coaches? Or against their preference?
I wouldn’t think they’d create a conference tournament without the support of the coaches. And if it has their support then I’ll defer to their greater knowledge of the sport than my own.
Also does softball hold a Pac12 tournament? And if not isn’t that a potential equity issue between men’s and women’s sports? I’m only half-serious about that, but it wouldn’t surprise me to have someone raise it as an “issue”
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 24, 2022 9:06:23 GMT -8
Does anyone know whether the decision to hold a tournament was made with the support of the Pac 12 head baseball coaches? Or against their preference? I wouldn’t think they’d create a conference tournament without the support of the coaches. And if it has their support then I’ll defer to their greater knowledge of the sport than my own. Also does softball hold a Pac12 tournament? And if not isn’t that a potential equity issue between men’s and women’s sports? I’m only half-serious about that, but it wouldn’t surprise me to have someone raise it as an “issue” It was made in consort with the ADs. A quick google will show lots of public support from ADs, who knows behind the curtain. Softball starts theirs next year. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 24, 2022 16:58:25 GMT -8
Does anyone know whether the decision to hold a tournament was made with the support of the Pac 12 head baseball coaches? Or against their preference? I wouldn’t think they’d create a conference tournament without the support of the coaches. And if it has their support then I’ll defer to their greater knowledge of the sport than my own. Also does softball hold a Pac12 tournament? And if not isn’t that a potential equity issue between men’s and women’s sports? I’m only half-serious about that, but it wouldn’t surprise me to have someone raise it as an “issue” Pat Casey was always a very vocal proponent of a Pac-12 Tournament. I would surmise that Mitchy Slick is about the same, but I do not know. I am assuming that pretty much everyone else is on board, as well. Everyone knows that that the lack of a Tournament has been seriously holding the conference back for years. And there is a very real possibility that the conference has been leaving money on the table just to shoot themselves in the foot. The con for years was teams that had a hard time putting schedules together and teams that were worried about gate. |
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