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Post by beaver55to7 on Apr 24, 2022 5:42:30 GMT -8
Of Melton, Boyd, and Big Country, who has the best plate discipline? Also, when u load the bases intentionally walking two guys, you now limit your pitcher cuz he's got nowhere to put the guy with the highest OBP in the conference. I mean ur kinda screwed any way u slice it unless u strike a guy out, and get two down. I still think the call is to go after Melton and give him nothing to hit.....lots of bottom dropping out sliders that he has a tendency to chase....hope ur catcher can dig em out.....you walk him ok, now you've got the double play up the middle....although Boyd doesn't often get doubled up.....Big Country is slow.....I get that line of thought.....thing is, Big Country has been pretty hot lately....is anyone surprised he barrelled one up, up 2-0 in the count? Could have pitched to Melton, put the third outfielder at back up to the catcher and thrown nothing but soft breaking stuff. Is that within the rules? I thought only the catcher can be in the catcher box and everyone else has to be on the field of play? |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 24, 2022 6:32:30 GMT -8
Every player except the catcher must be in fair territory when the ball is pitched.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 24, 2022 6:58:15 GMT -8
Of Melton, Boyd, and Big Country, who has the best plate discipline? Also, when u load the bases intentionally walking two guys, you now limit your pitcher cuz he's got nowhere to put the guy with the highest OBP in the conference. I mean ur kinda screwed any way u slice it unless u strike a guy out, and get two down. I still think the call is to go after Melton and give him nothing to hit.....lots of bottom dropping out sliders that he has a tendency to chase....hope ur catcher can dig em out.....you walk him ok, now you've got the double play up the middle....although Boyd doesn't often get doubled up.....Big Country is slow.....I get that line of thought.....thing is, Big Country has been pretty hot lately....is anyone surprised he barrelled one up, up 2-0 in the count? Could have pitched to Melton, put the third outfielder at back up to the catcher and thrown nothing but soft breaking stuff. I kinda am dieing to see someone use a Eephus pitch in game. |
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Post by vhalum92 on Apr 25, 2022 12:43:19 GMT -8
I think Meggs over coached it.
Pick you path... but once he loaded the bases why not keep the infield back and try to get the double play?
If I'm hitting and I only see 2 outfielders... I know it is to my advantage and the pressure is off me and squarely on the pitcher.
As stated... we have seen a few games ended on a bases loaded walk over the years and that is soul crushing to a losing team. Why put yourself right into that mess where you have to come to Forrester with a strike or something close to the zone?
By the way... great swing by Forrester. I think going the other way was perfect... and he stung it real good.
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Post by chinmusic on Apr 25, 2022 18:01:06 GMT -8
Playing the infield back looking for the DP with Forrester running to 1B might have some validity but it is a much lower % play in terms of risk assesment. How many times have we seen a ground ball this year not hit hard, and directly to an IF, which results in a 5-4, 6-4, 4-6 or 3-6 force at 2B but the the runner beats the completion throw to 1B.
In this situation executing the front end of the DP without completion on the back end isn't good enough. You lose the game.
Making the force throw home and then throwing to 1b for a possible DP keeps your priority (choking off the winning run) in order and then taking a shot at say, a 6-2-3 DP to escape the inning.
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Post by vhalum92 on Apr 26, 2022 10:28:48 GMT -8
Agreed.... if you play back you have to complete the D.P. I haven't studied the numbers, I just know as a player.... that alignment was not intimidating. I'm already thinking SF wins the game and now I can hit a can of corn to center it even if it isn't deep enough we win. Odd. Seems like you could play 4 inf in to cut the run off at home on a groudn ball to an infielder and 3 of at shallow depth to try to throw out the runner from 3rd. Leaving a gaping hole in center just seemed silly. Foresters spray chart is another bit of data we don't have to analyze... I still stand by my conclusion... Meggs overcoaches and likes to insert himself into to too many situations that can just be played out. Something he can discuss with his next employer at an interview  |
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Post by chinmusic on Apr 26, 2022 11:52:41 GMT -8
LOL, I certainly wouldn't disagree with that assessment. One of the first lessons you learn in the coaching business is,
"Don't screw your kids up with coaching".
You can play 4 Inf and cut the run off-nothing wrong with that approach. The 5-man infield is a tactic primarily used to take away the squeeze. With the 1B and 3B charging and covering the lines, you can cover the 4 and 6 hole along with the middle - increased difficulty hitting anything through the IF.
With 5-in, You double the risk of a squeeze for the offense. A secondary advantage is the IF gaps are narrowed which increases the possibility of clean field and throw home. The downside of course, is anything in the air can find a huge outfield gap with only two OF positioned there.
If you bring that 5th guy in, you are betting the farm on a ground ball while the offense is thinking . . increase that launch angle a few degrees.
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 26, 2022 12:12:46 GMT -8
In game 3, the decision to walk Melton to load the bases and pitch to Boyd (even though he had a L/L mail chip on Melton) worked out well for Meggs. I though Boyd would make him pay again.
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