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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 21, 2022 12:07:49 GMT -8
I was in the let it drop camp. If he catches that ball the runner scores 100% of the time. If it drops, beavers at least have a chance to go to bottom of the inning just down one. Down 1 run instead of 2 totally changes the beavers approach to the bottom of the inning
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 21, 2022 12:57:42 GMT -8
Depends on MC's philosophy?
They've worked/discussed it I'm sure. We had a signal/reminder to OF in special cases.
Maybe instructed, maybe not?
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Post by irimi on Mar 21, 2022 20:25:21 GMT -8
Didn’t matter in the end.
Get the sure out. Next swing could bring in two or more. Get the sure out.
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Post by irimi on Mar 22, 2022 7:30:36 GMT -8
Perhaps we should ask Arkansas what happens if you give a batter another pitch or two after not catching a sure foul out.
Some of you forget too quickly.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 22, 2022 10:01:47 GMT -8
Perhaps we should ask Arkansas what happens if you give a batter another pitch or two after not catching a sure foul out. Some of you forget too quickly. Totally different scenario - one catch would have ended the game, the other one didn't - but yeah, whatever.
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Post by irimi on Mar 22, 2022 10:30:51 GMT -8
Perhaps we should ask Arkansas what happens if you give a batter another pitch or two after not catching a sure foul out. Some of you forget too quickly. Totally different scenario - one catch would have ended the game, the other one didn't - but yeah, whatever. Yes, there are differences, but the fundamental idea is the same. In this situation, with bases loaded and only 1 out, do you let the guy keep swinging away or forfeit the run to take the sure out? Lots of people say let it drop because you don’t want to give up the run. But by doing so, you know he gets at least one more swing, and a decent swing could score more than 1. Further, by getting the out and clearing third, the runner on second has a more dificult time to score. A walk won’t give up a run. A hit batter won’t give up a run. A passed ball won’t give up a run. An infield hit won’t give up a run. With only 1 out and a runner on 3, there are a ton of ways to get that run home. And very few ways to stop it from scoring. I think the Beavs had already realized that. And one run isn’t as bad a Larnach home run.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 22, 2022 10:42:15 GMT -8
Perhaps we should ask Arkansas what happens if you give a batter another pitch or two after not catching a sure foul out. Some of you forget too quickly. Totally different scenario - one catch would have ended the game, the other one didn't - but yeah, whatever. The only time you tell him to drop it is in a tie game, last inning and 1 run ends the game. Other than that, you take the out.
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Post by rainmanrich on Mar 22, 2022 14:07:17 GMT -8
This topic is interesting. I spent two minutes searching the internet about it but didn't find much. Obviously in the case of the walk-off run, which it wasn't, the answer is no. My knee jerk reaction is get to 27 outs efficiently as you can. However, upon further thought I believe its a descision to be made based on where they are in the lineup, how confident are you in making an out with runners in scoring position (in this case on second) after the run scores, and your next batting order coming up. Lots to consider. This is the type of thing that speeds the game way up. Without second guessing the Beavs, I wonder if the facts were considered, the decision made, and the players communicated the plan. We may never know.
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