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Post by obf on Mar 14, 2022 10:09:55 GMT -8
Sunday WSU batters got hit by pitch 3 times, specifically in the decisive, walk off ninth, they got hit twice... in a row.... both times the batter was behind in the count.
Worden mentioned that Verburg asked the ump if the batter leaned in on at least one of the HBP. For those of you watching... Did it seem like the cougs were leaning in? Did it effect how Verburg was pitching? He seemed pretty lights out until he plunked those two guys and then long loud out (sac fly), single, single. Did he decide to just start centering picthes to avoid the lean ins?
Not really looking for an excuse. You can't let another team get 20 hits and expect to win. Plus your closer needs to be tougher minded than a couple of HBP. Just wondering.
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 14, 2022 10:55:43 GMT -8
I thought both HBP in the ninth were legitimate. The first was definitely a good call. The second one, the batter did raise his elbows up, but that is a somewhat natural reaction to a quite high and inside pitch. I sure would like to have seen replays on several calls which actually were about a 50-50 split for or against both teams.
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Post by tamatrix on Mar 14, 2022 14:05:30 GMT -8
I agree with zeroposter....in my opinion, neither coug tried hard to get out of the way but both pitches were so inside that ump wasn't going to bail out verburg either
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Post by vhalum92 on Mar 14, 2022 16:17:57 GMT -8
I would also add we had two bad throws by infielders "late" in that game. I'm not sure how much of an impact they had as the situations are a bit fuzzy...Once on a double play opportunity..Bazanna's throw to first was low and wide. Caught but batter/runner was safe at first. Would have ended the inning I believe.
The other was Smith throwing home, low and away again. Can't remember if he recorded the out at 1b or was simply trying to get he lead runner.
Verburg is responsible for his HBP... but I'm wondering how much of this was trying to get 5 outs instead of 3. If Mitchell isn't the closer my vote is Ferrer. That dude keeps the ball low, throws strikes and has that pitch that just sinks and the batters are surprised it is not a fastball.
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 14, 2022 16:33:49 GMT -8
I would also add we had two bad throws by infielders "late" in that game. I'm not sure how much of an impact they had as the situations are a bit fuzzy...Once on a double play opportunity..Bazanna's throw to first was low and wide. Caught but batter/runner was safe at first. Would have ended the inning I believe. The other was Smith throwing home, low and away again. Can't remember if he recorded the out at 1b or was simply trying to get he lead runner. Verburg is responsible for his HBP... but I'm wondering how much of this was trying to get 5 outs instead of 3. If Mitchell isn't the closer my vote is Ferrer. That dude keeps the ball low, throws strikes and has that pitch that just sinks and the batters are surprised it is not a fastball. Add in a bad throw to 2nd by the 3B and that really is a lot of outs.
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Post by collegiate on Mar 14, 2022 17:57:35 GMT -8
Simply put: Verburg has to be better if he’s going to be our closer. But the L falls on the entire team. Pitching was below average all day. Defense (as stated by other) did not execute in the clutch. Hitting, all game long, left a lot of runners stranded. We could not get a key hit.
In the end, wazzu had some luck with a high percentage of ground balls finding holes. But we kept the door propped open for them to step through.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 14, 2022 20:02:38 GMT -8
If you play a 56-game season, you'll have games like Sunday. That's just baseball. The key is to not have very many of them.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 14, 2022 20:39:42 GMT -8
If you play a 56-game season, you'll have games like Sunday. That's just baseball. The key is to not have very many of them. Most every elite team will lose 10-15+ games. As stated it's a long season. Crap happens. Win 10 series in the Pac12 and your 20-10. Really tough to do, but it's still 10 losses. And as conference play proceeds some of the midweek games become less "important". There is the will to win, but players need rest.
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Post by rilesinnewberg on Mar 14, 2022 22:01:38 GMT -8
Verburg just needs to pitch. Also someone with a closer mentality might be better as a one inning guy. Both losses were in his 2nd inning. Against Irvine he threw 26 pitches and WSU 24.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 15, 2022 11:25:56 GMT -8
Verburg just needs to pitch. Also someone with a closer mentality might be better as a one inning guy. Both losses were in his 2nd inning. Against Irvine he threw 26 pitches and WSU 24. Well he blows another save, he may not get more opps to pitch.
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Post by vhalum92 on Mar 16, 2022 7:53:17 GMT -8
Good to see Verburg back on the mound Tuesday night. Better command but still struggling in key counts to make a competitive pitch. Last night he was throwing the ball into the ground before it crossed the plate. Maybe over throwing?
He faced the top of the order and most of the best GCU hitters only giving up a walk... but look out because Mr. Carpenter struck out the side in the 9th. Boing to be interesting to see who gets the next save opportunity.
Glad Mitch bounced back some.
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