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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 10, 2022 10:46:12 GMT -8
Nothing compared to the challenges UC Berkeley has. sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2022/03/03/uc-berkeley-enrollment-freeze-california-supreme-court-ruling/I see this as not a left/right political battle but just an inevitable struggle around how a large institution can (or should) grow within an urbanized environment. In Corvallis, there is local pushback here and there, but the reality is that OSU is the biggest show in town and ultimately gets its way. OSU enrollment has grown substantially in the last 15 years with little organized resistance. But growth puts pressure on housing, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 10, 2022 10:58:11 GMT -8
OSU should grow, in conjunction with Oregon's population growth. Kids today deserve the same educational opportunities their parents had 20-30 years ago.
Growth does put pressure on housing. But some in Corvallis still fight every project catered to students that would help alleviate the shortage. The Retreat, 7th Street Station, the apartments where the old G-T building was, the Domain out on Harrison, the new complex on Washington Street east of 15th Street and the apartments on Harrison where the old hospital was all faced major local pushback.
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Post by ag87 on Mar 10, 2022 11:17:05 GMT -8
OSU should grow, in conjunction with Oregon's population growth. Kids today deserve the same educational opportunities their parents had 20-30 years ago. Growth does put pressure on housing. But some in Corvallis still fight every project catered to students that would help alleviate the shortage. The Retreat, 7th Street Station, the apartments where the old G-T building was, the Domain out on Harrison, the new complex on Washington Street east of 15th Street and the apartments on Harrison where the old hospital was all faced major local pushback. Where is that? It must be before my time. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 10, 2022 11:31:08 GMT -8
OSU should grow, in conjunction with Oregon's population growth. Kids today deserve the same educational opportunities their parents had 20-30 years ago. Growth does put pressure on housing. But some in Corvallis still fight every project catered to students that would help alleviate the shortage. The Retreat, 7th Street Station, the apartments where the old G-T building was, the Domain out on Harrison, the new complex on Washington Street east of 15th Street and the apartments on Harrison where the old hospital was all faced major local pushback. Where is that? It must be before my time. 27th and Harrison. The complex is called the Union and it is where the old Corvallis Hospital was located. Samaritan Health got some grief for it because they partnered with a provide developer to build it causing the locals to wonder why a health care provider was in the student housing industry. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 10, 2022 18:49:30 GMT -8
It’s understandable. The Corvallis and OSU of my day was quaint and slightly behind the times anyway, and that was in the late 80s, early 90s. But even Portland was manageable back then. All of Oregon is growing, and hoping to hold on to what it was never works out. I always wanted to settle in Corvallis, but I’m not sold on it anymore. Still love to visit.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 10, 2022 18:59:19 GMT -8
It’s understandable. The Corvallis and OSU of my day was quaint and slightly behind the times anyway, and that was in the late 80s, early 90s. But even Portland was manageable back then. All of Oregon is growing, and hoping to hold on to what it was never works out. I always wanted to settle in Corvallis, but I’m not sold on it anymore. Still love to visit. I attended OSU at a similar time. I came back in the late 90’s after living elsewhere post college. It has changed a lot. We have a lot of NIMBY’s that don’t want growth yet are the same people that bitch about housing prices. They don’t understand that no supply equals much higher prices. It’s much different, but I’m still glad I’m here. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 10, 2022 21:08:34 GMT -8
It’s understandable. The Corvallis and OSU of my day was quaint and slightly behind the times anyway, and that was in the late 80s, early 90s. But even Portland was manageable back then. All of Oregon is growing, and hoping to hold on to what it was never works out. I always wanted to settle in Corvallis, but I’m not sold on it anymore. Still love to visit. Corvallis is far superior to what it was in the late 1980s or early 1990s (IMHO). Yes, more traffic, higher housing costs, more homeless. But the choice of places to eat, drink and stay are far, far more varied and plentiful than that era. The riverfront is completely different. Even far more shopping opportunities without the big box stores or malls. And we're even getting a two-lane bridge out of town next year! Change, adapt or die. Those who want Corvallis of the 1980s should move to Monmouth or Dallas. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 10, 2022 21:15:58 GMT -8
It’s understandable. The Corvallis and OSU of my day was quaint and slightly behind the times anyway, and that was in the late 80s, early 90s. But even Portland was manageable back then. All of Oregon is growing, and hoping to hold on to what it was never works out. I always wanted to settle in Corvallis, but I’m not sold on it anymore. Still love to visit. Corvallis is far superior to what it was in the late 1980s or early 1990s (IMHO). Yes, more traffic, higher housing costs, more homeless. But the choice of places to eat, drink and stay are far, far more varied and plentiful than that era. The riverfront is completely different. Even far more shopping opportunities without the big box stores or malls. And we're even getting a two-lane bridge out of town next year! Change, adapt or die. Those who want Corvallis of the 1980s should move to Monmouth or Dallas. I agree. Downtown in those days was so bleak and dull. Now it is full of life! And I love the idea of a bus system. That sure would’ve been handy when I was a student there. Yeah, I loved the OSU and Corvallis of the era when I was there. But nothing stays the same. And good places attract people so they grow. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 10, 2022 21:50:59 GMT -8
It’s understandable. The Corvallis and OSU of my day was quaint and slightly behind the times anyway, and that was in the late 80s, early 90s. But even Portland was manageable back then. All of Oregon is growing, and hoping to hold on to what it was never works out. I always wanted to settle in Corvallis, but I’m not sold on it anymore. Still love to visit. Corvallis is far superior to what it was in the late 1980s or early 1990s (IMHO). Yes, more traffic, higher housing costs, more homeless. But the choice of places to eat, drink and stay are far, far more varied and plentiful than that era. The riverfront is completely different. Even far more shopping opportunities without the big box stores or malls. And we're even getting a two-lane bridge out of town next year! Change, adapt or die. Those who want Corvallis of the 1980s should move to Monmouth or Dallas. Well said. My nostalgic memories of downtown Corvallis as an OSU student in the '80's are..none. There was never any reason to spend any time downtown other than to gas up your car on your way out of town. |
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Post by ag87 on Mar 10, 2022 22:07:22 GMT -8
I have a few memories - Night Deposit, Top of the Cock, seems like I was in one or two other bars downtown.
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 11, 2022 8:01:25 GMT -8
Corvallis of the late 80s was pretty sleepy outside of the campus area.
Downtown had some places to go… Peacock, Top of the Cock, OMs, Squirrels, a movie theater, Old World Deli (sometimes had live Reggae)
Nothing like all the offerings nowadays, but still existed as an alternative to the Monroe places.
I find the “if you don’t like it you need to move” as very divisive, not helpful, and typical of today’s culture.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 11, 2022 8:15:41 GMT -8
Corvallis of the late 80s was pretty sleepy outside of the campus area. Downtown had some places to go… Peacock, Top of the Cock, OMs, Squirrels, a movie theater, Old World Deli (sometimes had live Reggae) Nothing like all the offerings nowadays, but still existed as an alternative to the Monroe places. I find the “if you don’t like it you need to move” as very divisive, not helpful, and typical of today’s culture. There were still a few places to go in the 80's, but when the waterfront was converted from a dirt road mud pit to a park, it really revitalized the downtown core and added a lot of new businesses, restaurants and bars. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 11, 2022 10:09:53 GMT -8
I find the “if you don’t like it you need to move” as very divisive, not helpful, and typical of today’s culture.
Not intending to "divide" anyone. To me the complaining from some parties about the growth and changes in Corvallis, the "this city was a lot better in the 1980s" talk is annoying and pretty pointless.
Just saying that if you're not happy with what Corvallis is, if you're going to constantly complain about how it has changed and if you want to find the 1980s version, maybe you should try Monmouth or Dallas. Because 1980s Corvallis is gone and it ain't coming back.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 13, 2022 7:43:21 GMT -8
I find the “if you don’t like it you need to move” as very divisive, not helpful, and typical of today’s culture.
Not intending to "divide" anyone. To me the complaining from some parties about the growth and changes in Corvallis, the "this city was a lot better in the 1980s" talk is annoying and pretty pointless. Just saying that if you're not happy with what Corvallis is, if you're going to constantly complain about how it has changed and if you want to find the 1980s version, maybe you should try Monmouth or Dallas. Because 1980s Corvallis is gone and it ain't coming back. “Oh, mercy, mercy me. Ah, things ain’t what they used to be” Marvin Gaye. |
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