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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 9, 2022 20:01:51 GMT -8
I'd like to know what some of you see as the record necessary next year for tinkle to avoid getting canned? 8 overall wins? 12? What's the magic number? 0-0. Great, you want to not play any games next season. Then we’ll have to pay him for another year.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 9, 2022 20:04:33 GMT -8
No they're not. You are completely overvaluing Wayne's coaching abilities. And you’re overvaluing your posting ability. I guess we’re even.
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Post by speakthetruth on Mar 9, 2022 20:04:35 GMT -8
Yes, a missed FT was all it took. But so happy to hear that you love paying for Wayne's ineptness (which is worse than Craig's). How many NCAA tournaments did your buddy Craig lead us to? Tinkles losing percentage is now better than Craig's and Jimmy Anderson. Its now approaching Jay Johns. While getting to the tourney is great. It obviously doesn't take a good coach to get there. Wayne's record proves he is not a good coach.
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Post by ee1990 on Mar 9, 2022 22:30:12 GMT -8
And their best player didn't even play.
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Post by beaver94 on Mar 10, 2022 7:10:12 GMT -8
No they're not. You are completely overvaluing Wayne's coaching abilities. If it was all luck and had nothing to do with coaching, I’m surprised one of the other OSU coaches over the last 30 years never lucked into the NCAA tournament.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 10, 2022 7:58:25 GMT -8
No they're not. You are completely overvaluing Wayne's coaching abilities. If it was all luck and had nothing to do with coaching, I’m surprised one of the other OSU coaches over the last 30 years never lucked into the NCAA tournament. Let alone lucked all the way to the elite 8. Super luck.
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Post by osufan2k on Mar 10, 2022 8:19:16 GMT -8
Am I correct that 3-28 (.097) is not only the worst record (and most losses) in a single season in Oregon State history, but also the worst overall record in Pac 8/10/12 history?
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Post by OSUprof on Mar 10, 2022 9:37:31 GMT -8
Am I correct that 3-28 (.097) is not only the worst record (and most losses) in a single season in Oregon State history, but also the worst overall record in Pac 8/10/12 history? Not the worst overall season record by winning percentage in conference history. Oregon has that honor back in the 1916-17 season with a 0-11 overall season record and 0.000 winning percentage. But that was back in the dark ages when the schedules were really short. There has not been a program with a 3-win season since programs started playing 25+ game seasons and no one has a winning percentage approaching 0.097 since the 1920s.
But the 27 and 28 loss seasons are all-time conference records - both held by Tinkle. Let that sink in - no other coach in conference history has lost 27 or 28 games in a season. Teflon Tinkle is both first and second place in losses.
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Post by osufan2k on Mar 10, 2022 10:52:46 GMT -8
Am I correct that 3-28 (.097) is not only the worst record (and most losses) in a single season in Oregon State history, but also the worst overall record in Pac 8/10/12 history? Not the worst overall season record by winning percentage in conference history. Oregon has that honor back in the 1916-17 season with a 0-11 overall season record and 0.000 winning percentage. But that was back in the dark ages when the schedules were really short. There has not been a program with a 3-win season since programs started playing 25+ game seasons and no one has a winning percentage approaching 0.097 since the 1920s.
But the 27 and 28 loss seasons are all-time conference records - both held by Tinkle. Let that sink in - no other coach in conference history has lost 27 or 28 games in a season. Teflon Tinkle is both first and second place in losses.
I did see some .000 percentages from back in the PCC days and before, but wasn't sure if those applied to the modern PAC 8/10/12. Wow, that's a sad stat about both seasons being the top 2 for most losses in a season.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 10, 2022 11:05:14 GMT -8
It much more to say. How could He be so wrong about these players? I do not see any way forward. We are on uncharted territory . Or..........maybe his coaching isn't helping being the glue to getting them to work together. We won't mention the Maryland academic transcript...that's a waste of a schollie right there. Marial had a 4.0 GPA in fall term, according to Parker. His problem was he did not have the progress toward his degree required by third-year players because of his transfer. That should be resolved after this academic year.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 10, 2022 11:07:20 GMT -8
Am I correct that 3-28 (.097) is not only the worst record (and most losses) in a single season in Oregon State history, but also the worst overall record in Pac 8/10/12 history? Not the worst overall season record by winning percentage in conference history. Oregon has that honor back in the 1916-17 season with a 0-11 overall season record and 0.000 winning percentage. But that was back in the dark ages when the schedules were really short. There has not been a program with a 3-win season since programs started playing 25+ game seasons and no one has a winning percentage approaching 0.097 since the 1920s.
But the 27 and 28 loss seasons are all-time conference records - both held by Tinkle. Let that sink in - no other coach in conference history has lost 27 or 28 games in a season. Teflon Tinkle is both first and second place in losses.
Well to be fair, hasn’t it been only since about early 1970s that it was possible to lose 28 games in a season? But, yes, pretty remarkable.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 10, 2022 11:14:59 GMT -8
Or..........maybe his coaching isn't helping being the glue to getting them to work together. We won't mention the Maryland academic transcript...that's a waste of a schollie right there. Marial had a 4.0 GPA in fall term, according to Parker. His problem was he did not have the progress toward his degree required by third-year players because of his transfer. That should be resolved after this academic year. And I wouldn’t even put that on Tinkle. That’s an admissions department or an athletic department issue. I’m assuming that there is some kind of office in athletic department that should have caught that earlier. Plenty to get on WT about, but that’s not one of them. Plus with the Covid exception, Beavers had 13 scholarship players without Marial to start season.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 10, 2022 11:37:35 GMT -8
Marial had a 4.0 GPA in fall term, according to Parker. His problem was he did not have the progress toward his degree required by third-year players because of his transfer. That should be resolved after this academic year. And I wouldn’t even put that on Tinkle. That’s an admissions department or an athletic department issue. I’m assuming that there is some kind of office in athletic department that should have caught that earlier. Plenty to get on WT about, but that’s not one of them. Plus with the Covid exception, Beavers had 13 scholarship players without Marial to start season. Nor would I put much stock in Marial being much of an asset in terms of a turnaround. Although a highly rated recruit, some may have forgotten (not known) he was a non-factor on a 17-14 Maryland team. He missed 12 games his first season due to surgery, but was used sparingly and had very little in the way of performance: '20-21 played in 18 of 31 games... started a NC, played 7 min. Averaged 6.2 min/g Shot .370 (10/27) from the field... 50% from the line (8/16) Averages 1.6/1.1 Wingspan, block some shots, has improved... but no one can really expect him to be too much more (even equal?) than Silva's 7.2/4.6??? OSU needs better portal transfers than this, Akanno, Williams, Malone-Key, Rand. WT can't miss on 50% or more of his "recruits"... high school or portal.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 10, 2022 11:54:29 GMT -8
I'm expecting big things in 2023. We could potentially triple our '22 season win total!
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 10, 2022 12:02:41 GMT -8
And I wouldn’t even put that on Tinkle. That’s an admissions department or an athletic department issue. I’m assuming that there is some kind of office in athletic department that should have caught that earlier. Plenty to get on WT about, but that’s not one of them. Plus with the Covid exception, Beavers had 13 scholarship players without Marial to start season. Nor would I put much stock in Marial being much of an asset in terms of a turnaround. Although a highly rated recruit, some may have forgotten (not known) he was a non-factor on a 17-14 Maryland team. He missed 12 games his first season due to surgery, but was used sparingly and had very little in the way of performance: '20-21 played in 18 of 31 games... started a NC, played 7 min. Averaged 6.2 min/g Shot .370 (10/27) from the field... 50% from the line (8/16) Averages 1.6/1.1 Wingspan, block some shots, has improved... but no one can really expect him to be too much more (even equal?) than Silva's 7.2/4.6??? OSU needs better portal transfers than this, Akanno, Williams, Malone-Key, Rand. WT can't miss on 50% or more of his "recruits"... high school or portal. yeah, I’d hope people aren’t expecting much from Marial next year. At best we can hope he and Andela, make a decent center tandem. If WT can actually get the team to play D in front of him, Marial could clean things up on the back end. But from want I remember of him while in BIG, he’s not going to be anywhere near as effective as a shot blocker as Kylor was unless he’s taken a big step forward while sitting.
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