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Post by ochobeavo on Mar 9, 2022 16:01:18 GMT -8
So you don't expect to win but keep within striking distance. And that's positive? Have to be within striking distance to have a chance to win. And I can still be realistic while pointing out the good things, like overall team effort and Lucas' play. He's not a good defender, but he works his butt off. I can appreciate that. We can win this game, but realistically we shouldn't. Just hope we have a chance down the stretch, and how we played following that initial 12-0 run by the Ducks (which was terrible basketball by us) gives me reason to think it's possible. So what you're saying is that you can point out positive things you're seeing on the court today AND still be unhappy with how this season has gone? Big if true.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 9, 2022 16:03:33 GMT -8
I thought McLean brought up a good point in the first half when he said that most of the recruiting for this team had to be done via Zoom, and so you're just kind of hoping guys fit in and the pieces are going to work well together. Makes sense that would affect the Beavs more on account of us having to take so many transfers because we have struggled in recruiting high school kids (which is a valid criticism), but something I hadn't really considered. So, wasn't everyone's recruiting restrictions the same? And, those teams having to sign even more last minute are because of their recruiting chops... the lack thereof. No matter what individuals think of WT, his contract, etc he has failed in almost every aspect of coaching this season. No excuses.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 9, 2022 16:16:43 GMT -8
Can’t we keep the WT sucks posts in the many WT sucks threads?
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 9, 2022 16:18:50 GMT -8
Can’t we keep the WT sucks posts in the many WT sucks threads? So you mean on game days? Like today? Or... you could do you and other posters do them?
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 9, 2022 16:19:18 GMT -8
I thought McLean brought up a good point in the first half when he said that most of the recruiting for this team had to be done via Zoom, and so you're just kind of hoping guys fit in and the pieces are going to work well together. Makes sense that would affect the Beavs more on account of us having to take so many transfers because we have struggled in recruiting high school kids (which is a valid criticism), but something I hadn't really considered. So, wasn't everyone's recruiting restrictions the same? And, those teams having to sign even more last minute are because of their recruiting chops... the lack thereof. No matter what individuals think of WT, his contract, etc he has failed in almost every aspect of coaching this season. No excuses. ASU football strenuously objects to this post.
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Post by nabeav on Mar 9, 2022 16:19:29 GMT -8
I thought McLean brought up a good point in the first half when he said that most of the recruiting for this team had to be done via Zoom, and so you're just kind of hoping guys fit in and the pieces are going to work well together. Makes sense that would affect the Beavs more on account of us having to take so many transfers because we have struggled in recruiting high school kids (which is a valid criticism), but something I hadn't really considered. So, wasn't everyone's recruiting restrictions the same? And, those teams having to sign even more last minute are because of their recruiting chops... the lack thereof. No matter what individuals think of WT, his contract, etc he has failed in almost every aspect of coaching this season. No excuses. Not sure where you got that I was making excuses for Tinkle. More of an explanation. He recruited the wrong guys. He had to recruit those guys because he did not have enough underclassmen on the roster due to weak HS recruiting and/or the inability to keep guys on campus. It's definitely something that needs to be addressed if he's going to continue to be our head coach. Nobody's arguing that Tinkle has done an amazing job to get us to 3 wins. Nobody ever has. All people are saying is that he's not a terrible basketball coach. He deserves a lot of credit for getting us to the tournament twice. It's a program full of good kids that represent the university well as far as I can tell. It's not black and white. He's not a godsend. He's not the worst coach of all time. I'm somewhere in the middle.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 9, 2022 16:22:13 GMT -8
So, wasn't everyone's recruiting restrictions the same? And, those teams having to sign even more last minute are because of their recruiting chops... the lack thereof. No matter what individuals think of WT, his contract, etc he has failed in almost every aspect of coaching this season. No excuses. Not sure where you got that I was making excuses for Tinkle. More of an explanation. He recruited the wrong guys. He had to recruit those guys because he did not have enough underclassmen on the roster due to weak HS recruiting and/or the inability to keep guys on campus. It's definitely something that needs to be addressed if he's going to continue to be our head coach. Nobody's arguing that Tinkle has done an amazing job to get us to 3 wins. Nobody ever has. All people are saying is that he's not a terrible basketball coach. He deserves a lot of credit for getting us to the tournament twice. It's a program full of good kids that represent the university well as far as I can tell. It's not black and white. He's not a godsend. He's not the worst coach of all time. I'm somewhere in the middle. Had no intent being directed at you. You mentioned a DM quote. I was responding to that. Announcers aren't paid to be overtly realistic on air. Play by play comments, generally positive about every coach/ program. You wonder what they really think/say off camera?
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Post by nabeav on Mar 9, 2022 16:23:29 GMT -8
Davis has not played well today. There, I'll say something not positive.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Mar 9, 2022 16:26:05 GMT -8
Sadly this really seems to sum up our season: Had the ball at the block to get within 6.....get stuffed, allow wiiiide open trey.....down 11
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 9, 2022 16:28:43 GMT -8
Can’t we keep the WT sucks posts in the many WT sucks threads? I was going to start a new one but worried you would freak out about a new thread. 😎
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Mar 9, 2022 16:34:57 GMT -8
What is there to be positive of? You approve of the mess S Scott Barnes as well as Wayne sTinkle got themselves and us into? I don’t, but these guys are active. Giving it a good shot. No quit in them even down 11 or 12 nothing. Good for them. Clap clap clap
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Mar 9, 2022 16:35:49 GMT -8
Can’t we keep the WT sucks posts in the many WT sucks threads? You're in a Wayne sucks thread. lol
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Mar 9, 2022 16:37:25 GMT -8
So, wasn't everyone's recruiting restrictions the same? And, those teams having to sign even more last minute are because of their recruiting chops... the lack thereof. No matter what individuals think of WT, his contract, etc he has failed in almost every aspect of coaching this season. No excuses. Not sure where you got that I was making excuses for Tinkle. More of an explanation. He recruited the wrong guys. He had to recruit those guys because he did not have enough underclassmen on the roster due to weak HS recruiting and/or the inability to keep guys on campus. It's definitely something that needs to be addressed if he's going to continue to be our head coach. Nobody's arguing that Tinkle has done an amazing job to get us to 3 wins. Nobody ever has. All people are saying is that he's not a terrible basketball coach. He deserves a lot of credit for getting us to the tournament twice. It's a program full of good kids that represent the university well as far as I can tell. It's not black and white. He's not a godsend. He's not the worst coach of all time. I'm somewhere in the middle. That's the hill you're going to die on....Wayne helped get these guys to the dance? #1 was all GP II #2 was team actually getting hot at the right moment and beating quite a few teams in the tourney that went ice cold (that's basketball).
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 9, 2022 16:37:56 GMT -8
Welp no Pac 12 tournament magic this year.
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Mar 9, 2022 16:38:51 GMT -8
I thought McLean brought up a good point in the first half when he said that most of the recruiting for this team had to be done via Zoom, and so you're just kind of hoping guys fit in and the pieces are going to work well together. Makes sense that would affect the Beavs more on account of us having to take so many transfers because we have struggled in recruiting high school kids (which is a valid criticism), but something I hadn't really considered. So, wasn't everyone's recruiting restrictions the same? And, those teams having to sign even more last minute are because of their recruiting chops... the lack thereof. No matter what individuals think of WT, his contract, etc he has failed in almost every aspect of coaching this season. No excuses. All of this. And yet S Scott Barnes doesn't hold Wayne's feet to the fire at all. Wipe out the assistant coaches, make Wayne actually work for his money THAT YOU SIGNED HIM TO BARNES!
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