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Post by easyheat on Feb 27, 2022 12:55:34 GMT -8
Wait for it . . . . .
Rooney and Sorenson from D1 Baseball saw it, Fitt is on the Bandwagon.
Baseball America has been there for several months.
Jes say'n
Ya, I know, polls don't matter . . . . except to the 16 guys we just signed and the 30 more that are committed to play in the OSU baseball program. They're watching all of this like a Hawk, decked out in their Beaver gear.
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Post by beavheart on Feb 27, 2022 13:34:40 GMT -8
Really enjoyed Rooney and Sorenson commentary for our games in Surprise. They are definitely sold on the Beavs. Who wouldn't be after watching the last 2 weekends of this team?
Not a ton of losses in top 25 this week. We will definitely move past #12 Long Beach St who has been losing since beating Miss St. in the first 2 games. We should pass #10 Florida St who has dropped a couple games, including today as home vs Samford. I predict #10 for Beavs.
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Post by beavheart on Feb 27, 2022 13:39:44 GMT -8
Stanford up 2-0 right now on #2 Arkansas with a chance to score more. It's only in top of the 3rd, but would be a nice win for Pac12 if they can hold on.
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Post by alwaysorange on Feb 28, 2022 6:31:34 GMT -8
Stanford up 2-0 right now on #2 Arkansas with a chance to score more. It's only in top of the 3rd, but would be a nice win for Pac12 if they can hold on. Stanford won 5-0. |
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Post by beavheart on Feb 28, 2022 7:53:24 GMT -8
LOL. We went down a spot. What a joke Of course, I know. It doesn't matter. But, we got passed by Notre Dame who hasn't played anyone, and dropped a game to Delaware. Miss St STILL in the top 10 at 4-3? Arkansas at #3 with Stanford still at #6 is just pathetic. Stanford beat the Hogs handily, Arkansas was never a threat in the game. They followed that up by barely getting by Louisiana last night. They were behind until a very lucky 3 run HR in the 8th to squeak out a 6-4 win. Oh, but their next like 13 games are all at home, so we'll just keep them right there so they don't have to work to keep their lofty ranking. Arkansas IS NOT the #3 best team in the country. Not by a long shot. Also, just want to add that Hogs loaded the bases when one of the Louisiana pitchers lost his control for a bit (lots of very questionable, close calls by umpire), and the hogs walked several guys and I think got a weak single to right. They closed the deficit by one run to 3-2 that inning, and the guy who walked in the run (on a bad call) totally turned and stared down the pitcher after getting the call like he did something. Total and utterly dooshbag move. Just, no class. At. All. That's your #3 team for you. Watch out, or they will walk you to death! Of course, the next guy was a swinging K to end the inning. But, yeah, they're "awesome". |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Feb 28, 2022 7:53:53 GMT -8
D1 has hogs ahead of Furd. Furd dominated the Hogs yesterday.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Feb 28, 2022 7:56:50 GMT -8
Our ranking doesn't matter right now. We have a good schedule to prove how good we are moving forward. Just gotta take 2 of 3 in most of em and we'll be in good shape.
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on Feb 28, 2022 8:03:26 GMT -8
I’m not paying attention to the rankings right now- too early to get anything out of it .....the bigger issue is the status of Pfennigs and Frisch......
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Post by beavheart on Feb 28, 2022 8:05:58 GMT -8
LOL. We went down a spot. What a joke Of course, I know. It doesn't matter. But, we got passed by Notre Dame who hasn't played anyone, and dropped a game to Delaware. Miss St STILL in the top 10 at 4-3? Arkansas at #3 with Stanford still at #6 is just pathetic. Stanford beat the Hogs handily, Arkansas was never a threat in the game. They followed that up by barely getting by Louisiana last night. They were behind until a very lucky 3 run HR in the 8th to squeak out a 6-4 win. Oh, but their next like 13 games are all at home, so we'll just keep them right there so they don't have to work to keep their lofty ranking. Arkansas IS NOT the #3 best team in the country. Not by a long shot. 13 is the D1 poll. We were 14 last week Corrected. I thought we were #12. Should be #1.... jerks  |
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Post by easyheat on Feb 28, 2022 8:49:14 GMT -8
D1 Poll - stunning!
McDonalds brought us Egg McMuffin, Chicken McNuggets and now D1 brings us McThought.
Here is the scenario: You start with your pre-season poll. You check scores and series results. If a team wins a series or sweeps, they move up one notch. If they lose, you move them down one notch.
In D1's poll, 22 teams either stayed the same, moved up a notch or down a notch. Only Miami (up 2 pegs),Sac State (up 2 pegs) and Mississippi State (down 2 pegs) moved more than 1 notch either way. That's a really easy way to run a poll, minimum effort and restricted movement shows your subscribers you were right on with your pre-season poll.
Laughable.
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Post by rgeorge on Feb 28, 2022 10:26:00 GMT -8
D1 Poll - stunning! McDonalds brought us Egg McMuffin, Chicken McNuggets and now D1 brings us McThought. Here is the scenario: You start with your pre-season poll. You check scores and series results. If a team wins a series or sweeps, they move up one notch. If they lose, you move them down one notch. In D1's poll, 22 teams either stayed the same, moved up a notch or down a notch. Only Miami (up 2 pegs),Sac State (up 2 pegs) and Mississippi State (down 2 pegs) moved more than 1 notch either way. That's a really easy way to run a poll, minimum effort and restricted movement shows your subscribers you were right on with your pre-season poll. Laughable. Actually "laughable" is thinking you have any idea what goes into their rankings/system and then to somehow think your judgement is anymore plausible than some early season polling. Do you think they randomly just make up the first poll? Or maybe they take into account such factors as: -returners at each position and the output of each -transfers/recruits in and their past performance where applicable -who/where teams are playing -early season trials/acclimation of new players in setting up a lineup -reputation/past successes -injuries -other factors And, those same factors don't necessarily change a bunch early in the season with a loss here or there. And to be really blunt of the 299 (?) D1 baseball schools how many are really in top 25 consideration? Maybe 40? 50? So actually not rocket science to get to a top 25 if you have the time and resources to go through all the data. But, even at that it's a "best guess" scenario, not some exact science. Laughable is to take them so serious. Unlike football is actually is decided on the field, and unless something crazy happens OSU will be in the top 64 and from there rankings don't matter. -I'll give you a hint, it's more than just a win or loss. |
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Post by irimi on Feb 28, 2022 10:53:12 GMT -8
I'm happy with it. We're still in the conversation and we haven't exactly been tested yet.
Rankings matter. As long as our number trends in the right direction, no problem.
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Post by beaver56 on Feb 28, 2022 12:17:51 GMT -8
The one that gets me is Florida St staying at #10 after a 2-2 week with losses to Jacksonville and Samford???
But as others have stated at this point of the season it is what it is and the rankings don't mean much
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Post by lotrader on Feb 28, 2022 14:09:06 GMT -8
The rankings are screwy. It is no different in other major college sports. PAC-12 (West Coast) is rarely ranked correctly, especially at the beginning of the season. The SEC & ACC in particular, are always ranked higher than they should be at the beginning of the season.
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Post by easyheat on Mar 1, 2022 22:24:14 GMT -8
Thomas my Man, let’s begin this reply by addressing your reading and comprehension skills. The issue raised was the minimal movement in the D1 poll up or down. Try responding to that instead of setting up yourself as some quasi baseball authority and wandering away from the subject to lecture on something of little importance.
Teams all over America are distancing themselves from their competition – some quite convincingly. OSU is example 1A of that fact. A 7-0 record, by an 83-21 margin and a 62 run differential. Do you in your most lucid moment really believe that moved the needle one slot? Do you think there was any correlation between the glowing field reports and observations Mike Rooney and Eric Sorenson published, had much, if any bearing in OSU moving from 13 to 12 in their poll? I’ll ask you a hypothetical - Do you in your infinite baseball wisdom believe there are 12 college baseball teams in the country that can beat the 13th ranked Beavers at a neutral site – HERE AND NOW?
In response to your vividly imagined research that takes pace in constructing pre-season polls, I have a thorough and complete understanding of what goes into their ranking systems, far more in fact than your musing leads you to believe. Pre-season rankings are about 80% based on where and how teams finished last year. Writers tell you that. Pre-season polls are out before fall reports are written. Writers aren’t interested in unknowns, they stay with known facts.
Do you think Oregon State was “thoroughly” researched when they were ranked 38th in the Rawlings Perfect-Game Poll? In the early polls, do you think D1 Baseball’s “research” had Sacramento State within 30 slots of the number 23 ranking they now hold. Perhaps their research overlooked Cesar Valero who was 2-18 in two years at OSU (BA .111), and in Sac State’s 7-0 run, has put up .333/ .419/ .667 with 3 HR’s and 8 RBI. You did mention taking into account transfers, didn't you?.
Finally, will you please decipher this sentence for me.
“Unlike football is actually is decided on the field, and unless something crazy happens OSU will be in the top 64 and from there rankings don't matter.”
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