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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 6, 2022 19:23:04 GMT -8
Welcome converts. I sense the tide is changing. As long as you got no joy out of the Elite 8 last year, you’re good.
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Post by irimi on Feb 6, 2022 19:27:08 GMT -8
I don’t think the two views are mutually exclusive. I think you both have a point. Tinkle may be a great Xs and Os coach, but there seems to be little development and little focus on the fundamentals.
I think I’ve read that he’s got some real winners this year….Guys who believe that they are prima donnas. Hard to coach those kind.
Too bad he just doesn’t bring in a bunch of freshman he can grow into a team.
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Post by irimi on Feb 6, 2022 19:28:48 GMT -8
Welcome converts. I sense the tide is changing. I think your memory is pretty poor. You should go back and look at posts before last year.
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 6, 2022 19:31:39 GMT -8
I don’t think the two views are mutually exclusive. I think you both have a point. Tinkle may be a great Xs and Os coach, but there seems to be little development and little focus on the fundamentals. I think I’ve read that he’s got some real winners this year….Guys who believe that they are prima donnas. Hard to coach those kind. Too bad he just doesn’t bring in a bunch of freshman he can grow into a team. It’s not a focus of fundamentals. It’s getting your players to buy into your coaching. That is the disconnect.
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Post by irimi on Feb 6, 2022 19:41:04 GMT -8
I don’t think the two views are mutually exclusive. I think you both have a point. Tinkle may be a great Xs and Os coach, but there seems to be little development and little focus on the fundamentals. I think I’ve read that he’s got some real winners this year….Guys who believe that they are prima donnas. Hard to coach those kind. Too bad he just doesn’t bring in a bunch of freshman he can grow into a team. It’s not a focus of fundamentals. It’s getting your players to buy into your coaching. That is the disconnect. If the players don’t buy in, then they shouldn’t be wearing orange and black. Simple. He did better his first year with a group of walk-ons, so I basically agree with your point. But I don’t think it ends there. I don’t see the Pat Casey or Ralph Miller sort of coaching. Hell, not even Mike Riley. This year, it looks a lot more like Gary Andersen. The year after winning the Civil War in dramatic fashion.
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Post by OSUprof on Feb 7, 2022 7:53:19 GMT -8
I don’t think the two views are mutually exclusive. I think you both have a point. Tinkle may be a great Xs and Os coach, but there seems to be little development and little focus on the fundamentals. I think I’ve read that he’s got some real winners this year….Guys who believe that they are prima donnas. Hard to coach those kind. Too bad he just doesn’t bring in a bunch of freshman he can grow into a team. It’s getting your players to buy into your coaching. But that's my point. Getting your players to buy into your plan is a coaching skill.
When Mike Riley first came to OSU he stated that he had to change the culture and get players to buy into his program for OSU football. His plan might have been great but he needed their participation to be a successful coach. You can't have one without the other.
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