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Post by oldbeav on Jan 28, 2022 19:37:57 GMT -8
Alatishe says that not everyone has bought into the team.
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Post by speakthetruth on Jan 29, 2022 6:56:42 GMT -8
Well those interviewed talked a good talk.
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 29, 2022 11:15:49 GMT -8
Well those interviewed talked a good talk. Yeah, nothing like airing your dirty laundry in public. Even though no names are mentioned and it's subtle, it casts aspersions on those not interviewed. It's just BS. Handle the issues in your locker room WT. A bit of WT seeking a public reprieve... "it's not my fault, the kids just don't listen..." Your team, your recruits, your responsibility. Maybe players not respecting/listening will lead to another extension. Cuz 8 years wasn't enough time to get WT's type of players into the program?! Every season there is some excuse. But, really it comes down to one simple tenet... the guy can't recruit. |
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Post by skyrider on Jan 29, 2022 11:18:32 GMT -8
AMEN! PUT IT IN CAPS-HE CAN NOT RECRUIT!!!!!!
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 29, 2022 11:31:51 GMT -8
Yeah, nothing like airing your dirty laundry in public. Even though no names are mentioned it casts aspersions on those not interviewed. It's just BS. Handle the issues in your locker room WT. A bit of WT seeking a public reprieve... "it's not my fault, the kids just don't listen..." Your team, your recruits, your responsibility. Maybe players not respecting/listening will lead to another extension. Cuz 8 years wasn't enough time to get WT's type of players into the program?! Every season there is some excuse. But, really it comes down to one simple tenet... the guy can't recruit. I think you couldn't be more wrong. He can't coach either. I'll only disagree in that on a sliding scale his/staff's recruiting acumen/success is far below his x's & o's. But, as D1/P5 coach his coaching acumen requires some fairly talent kids to make the "basic" stuff successful. Recruiting talent and/or player development is terrible hence his coaching looks worse. Even his newest attempt to follow the pack and shortcut recruiting with JC types has failed. I'm not sure if he thought he'd suddenly be able to land high level JCs when he couldn't touch high level HS players?? Every coach looks better with great talent. WT can't get depth with marginal talent. Unfortunately, though the key characteristics for a good D1 coach are missing, WT is a good guy. He fits OSU/Corvallis pretty well. And, outside of his coaching persona is friendly. He may be guilty of misguided loyalty. I thought, maybe 3-4 seasons back, that if he'd sought out/hired some young/ fresh assistant(s) that were known in recruiting circles OSU could have built a solid foundation by now. But, basically same old staff, same old recruiting results. |
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Post by irimi on Jan 29, 2022 14:35:56 GMT -8
I took some crap for speculating that Hunt’s departure meant anything more than a lad trying to deal with mental health issues. But this suggests that very little is right in Gill, despite a Sweet 16 appearance.
The way I see it now is that we’ve had the players here to compete, but Tinkle isn’t a good enough coach.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 29, 2022 14:46:08 GMT -8
I took some crap for speculating that Hunt’s departure meant anything more than a lad trying to deal with mental health issues. But this suggests that very little is right in Gill, despite a Sweet 16 appearance. The way I see it now is that we’ve had the players here to compete, but Tinkle isn’t a good enough coach. I feel the opposite. I think WT is a slight above average coach, but a below average recruiter. Marlon is the only decent recruiter as an assistant coach. I think he needs to shakeup the staff. |
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Post by alwaysorange on Jan 29, 2022 17:01:54 GMT -8
53 - 82 Pac 12 record and 5 more years (after this year) on his contract at roughly 3 million a year. Seriously is there any other power 5 school hell forget power 5 any college that would take that type of league record and give an extension. With certain transfers out and transfers in you expect the next "team" to buy in? Maybe he can find a new assistant with a 5 star son in high school. Maybe that 5 star has an equally good younger brother.
I guess you can't blame Wayne if some body is willing to fork out all those millions he'd be a fool not to take it. Especially since absolutely no other school was knocking on his door.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 29, 2022 18:13:50 GMT -8
53 - 82 Pac 12 record and 5 more years (after this year) on his contract at roughly 3 million a year. Seriously is there any other power 5 school hell forget power 5 any college that would take that type of league record and give an extension. With certain transfers out and transfers in you expect the next "team" to buy in? Maybe he can find a new assistant with a 5 star son in high school. Maybe that 5 star has an equally good younger brother. I guess you can't blame Wayne if some body is willing to fork out all those millions he'd be a fool not to take it. Especially since absolutely no other school was knocking on his door. JS has a worse record in football and he got an extension. Don’t remember him getting us to the final 8 or a top 8 ranking. |
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Post by irimi on Jan 29, 2022 20:08:07 GMT -8
I took some crap for speculating that Hunt’s departure meant anything more than a lad trying to deal with mental health issues. But this suggests that very little is right in Gill, despite a Sweet 16 appearance. The way I see it now is that we’ve had the players here to compete, but Tinkle isn’t a good enough coach. I feel the opposite. I think WT is a slight above average coach, but a below average recruiter. Marlon is the only decent recruiter as an assistant coach. I think he needs to shakeup the staff. I guess at this level, I see a good coach as a guy who can work with the young men, give them direction, mentor them, and help them grow as players and individuals. I also see a good coach as a guy who can bring the individuals together as a team—it shouldn’t be difficult, they want to play after all—and get them to believe in each other. Tinkle’s teams rarely show this. Plus, recruiting is difficult to measure for a team that consistently finishes where the Beavs finish. There doesn’t seem to be direction to the program. There doesn’t seem to be much growth among the players. But who knows? You may be right. I just don’t like what I’m hearing. I don’t care if we are great, but I want the program to be a welcoming place for men to develop. |
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Post by seastape on Jan 29, 2022 20:45:22 GMT -8
Guess they need to keep looking.
What a mess.
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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 31, 2022 9:49:36 GMT -8
I took some crap for speculating that Hunt’s departure meant anything more than a lad trying to deal with mental health issues. But this suggests that very little is right in Gill, despite a Sweet 16 appearance. The way I see it now is that we’ve had the players here to compete, but Tinkle isn’t a good enough coach. I feel the opposite. I think WT is a slight above average coach, but a below average recruiter. Marlon is the only decent recruiter as an assistant coach. I think he needs to shakeup the staff. I don’t really agree that WT is slightly above average, but since he likely isn’t going anywhere I agree he needs to shake up his staff. |
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 31, 2022 10:39:26 GMT -8
Guess they need to keep looking. What a mess. lol this seems to sum up my feelings as well.....especially the 2nd sentence |
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