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Post by beaver56 on Jan 25, 2022 17:34:28 GMT -8
Baseball America preseason poll is out and has the Beavers sitting at #11 in their poll. Nice to see someone really must like us. Although not sure how much stock we can put into this poll as they have Notre Dame at 4 and Virginia at 5?
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 25, 2022 18:00:26 GMT -8
As far as the PAC-12 goes (other than the Beavs) the two rankings (D-1 BB and BA) are very similar:
Stanford - 7 BA, 6 D-1.
AZ - 13 BA, 15 D-1.
Only 24 days before pre-season rankings fade forever into the mist.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 25, 2022 21:26:45 GMT -8
Baseball America preseason poll is out and has the Beavers sitting at #11 in their poll. Nice to see someone really must like us. Although not sure how much stock we can put into this poll as they have Notre Dame at 4 and Virginia at 5? Sarcasm? The best three teams out of the ACC to end last year were NC State, Notre Dame and Virginia. Notre Dame outscored Mississippi State in Starkville in the Starkville Super Regional. The Irish missed out on the College World Series after they were cheated out of a National Seed. Virginia blew a 4-0 no hitter in the eighth to lose 6-5 to Mississippi State in the Winners' Bracket in Omaha. I mean why shouldn't Notre Dame be 4 and Virginia be 5? |
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Post by tamatrix on Jan 25, 2022 21:59:46 GMT -8
I'm more with beavers56 probably, those two definitely caught my eye
Virginia - lost Andrew Abbott as well as other 2 starters and their closer and two of their top players at SS and 3B....enough questions to not be #5 for sure
ND - lost Kavadas and that's huge and lost their best pitcher. #4 does feel too high to me but not total overkill, but feels more like starting in the 10-19 range is more reasonable
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 25, 2022 23:16:19 GMT -8
I'm more with beavers56 probably, those two definitely caught my eye Virginia - lost Andrew Abbott as well as other 2 starters and their closer and two of their top players at SS and 3B....enough questions to not be #5 for sure ND - lost Kavadas and that's huge and lost their best pitcher. #4 does feel too high to me but not total overkill, but feels more like starting in the 10-19 range is more reasonable With that said, having OSU at #11 may be more questionable than either of those two. I don't see OSU in the top 3, maybe 4 in the Pac12, let alone #11 in the country, unless some seriously consistent offense appears. Although preseason hype is nice what does it really matter? The season will shake it all out. The Pac12 will be very interesting. Most have Furd pretty solid as the fav, but spots 2-5, even 6 could be a "brawl". |
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Post by beaver56 on Jan 26, 2022 5:27:17 GMT -8
Baseball America preseason poll is out and has the Beavers sitting at #11 in their poll. Nice to see someone really must like us. Although not sure how much stock we can put into this poll as they have Notre Dame at 4 and Virginia at 5? Sarcasm? The best three teams out of the ACC to end last year were NC State, Notre Dame and Virginia. Notre Dame outscored Mississippi State in Starkville in the Starkville Super Regional. The Irish missed out on the College World Series after they were cheated out of a National Seed. Virginia blew a 4-0 no hitter in the eighth to lose 6-5 to Mississippi State in the Winners' Bracket in Omaha. I mean why shouldn't Notre Dame be 4 and Virginia be 5? No not sarcasm at all. I feel D1 baseball guys have the best feel for our beautiful game of college baseball and their rankings are usually very good with few alarming question marks. They have Notre Dame at 13 and Virginia is not ranked at all in the top 25. Both teams were very very good last year BUT both had big losses to their rosters. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 26, 2022 11:12:19 GMT -8
Sarcasm? The best three teams out of the ACC to end last year were NC State, Notre Dame and Virginia. Notre Dame outscored Mississippi State in Starkville in the Starkville Super Regional. The Irish missed out on the College World Series after they were cheated out of a National Seed. Virginia blew a 4-0 no hitter in the eighth to lose 6-5 to Mississippi State in the Winners' Bracket in Omaha. I mean why shouldn't Notre Dame be 4 and Virginia be 5? No not sarcasm at all. I feel D1 baseball guys have the best feel for our beautiful game of college baseball and their rankings are usually very good with few alarming question marks. They have Notre Dame at 13 and Virginia is not ranked at all in the top 25. Both teams were very very good last year BUT both had big losses to their rosters. Maybe... I guess... depending on what "best feel" means. It is preseason rankings, and the Top 25 has a lot of "regulars" and their positioning is sort of meaningless and even less predictable with all the portal movement and anticipated productions levels. I do know D1 had (7) of the (8) CWS teams ranked in the initial 2021 poll. Only Furd was missing. But only one team was ranked in the top 8 (MissSt) with Texas just outside at #9. D1 does have tons of inside info and great write ups. But, most on here and other places that follow D1 ball closely could probably make a Top 25 list and get 4,5 or more of the CWS 8 correct. Folks like to focus on the rankings, I find the individual write ups and weekly updates much more useful and entertaining. |
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jan 29, 2022 18:53:49 GMT -8
I'm more with beavers56 probably, those two definitely caught my eye Virginia - lost Andrew Abbott as well as other 2 starters and their closer and two of their top players at SS and 3B....enough questions to not be #5 for sure ND - lost Kavadas and that's huge and lost their best pitcher. #4 does feel too high to me but not total overkill, but feels more like starting in the 10-19 range is more reasonable Put out your own preseason t 25…. |
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jan 29, 2022 18:59:42 GMT -8
Every year is different. Towards end of year last year our bats weren’t bad. We now have more experience. And we get Melton back. And Bazanna will be a bat. I am optimistic we will plate runs. I’m more thinking about the pitching… which is getting preseason accolades…. Agree there is talent there. But really…. Projected starting staff had some problems getting through 4-5 innings last year . We need more depth from the starting staff. We can’t have bullpen throwing 4-5 innings consistently …. Just my opinion. Not worth much.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jan 29, 2022 19:04:28 GMT -8
No not sarcasm at all. I feel D1 baseball guys have the best feel for our beautiful game of college baseball and their rankings are usually very good with few alarming question marks. They have Notre Dame at 13 and Virginia is not ranked at all in the top 25. Both teams were very very good last year BUT both had big losses to their rosters. Maybe... I guess... depending on what "best feel" means. It is preseason rankings, and the Top 25 has a lot of "regulars" and their positioning is sort of meaningless and even less predictable with all the portal movement and anticipated productions levels. I do know D1 had (7) of the (8) CWS teams ranked in the initial 2021 poll. Only Furd was missing. But only one team was ranked in the top 8 (MissSt) with Texas just outside at #9. D1 does have tons of inside info and great write ups. But, most on here and other places that follow D1 ball closely could probably make a Top 25 list and get 4,5 or more of the CWS 8 correct. Folks like to focus on the rankings, I find the individual write ups and weekly updates much more useful and entertaining. IMHO, D1 tends to have their finger on the pulse of college baseball across the country. And over the years they would typically show the most love for the Beavs, and teams on the WC, in general.....BA and PG have huge SEC bias typically. For BA to have us higher than D1 preseason is interesting to me.... |
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 29, 2022 20:46:01 GMT -8
Maybe... I guess... depending on what "best feel" means. It is preseason rankings, and the Top 25 has a lot of "regulars" and their positioning is sort of meaningless and even less predictable with all the portal movement and anticipated productions levels. I do know D1 had (7) of the (8) CWS teams ranked in the initial 2021 poll. Only Furd was missing. But only one team was ranked in the top 8 (MissSt) with Texas just outside at #9. D1 does have tons of inside info and great write ups. But, most on here and other places that follow D1 ball closely could probably make a Top 25 list and get 4,5 or more of the CWS 8 correct. Folks like to focus on the rankings, I find the individual write ups and weekly updates much more useful and entertaining. IMHO, D1 tends to have their finger on the pulse of college baseball across the country. And over the years they would typically show the most love for the Beavs, and teams on the WC, in general.....BA and PG have huge SEC bias typically. For BA to have us higher than D1 preseason is interesting to me....
Sometimes I get the impression the other two sites pick a west coast "lost leader" or two. They keep some WC folks happy, interested and hope they are correct. They then either pat themselves on the back, "I told you so" style, or excuse away such preseason picks inferring how WC ball is down. In either case their bias is evident to certain conferences that's for sure! |
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 29, 2022 20:46:53 GMT -8
So... did nothing different on my phone. Why is the font in my last post bold??
And, not this one? 🤔
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Post by ochobeavo on Jan 31, 2022 8:24:40 GMT -8
So... did nothing different on my phone. Why is the font in my last post bold?? And, not this one? 🤔 I just thought you were being VERY SERIOUS for effect? I'm with you though - 1) just haven't seen enough to think we're a top 11 team (yet). Both in terms of having a hammer in the rotation and consistent production on offense. Certainly some very talented arms but need someone to emerge as "the guy." 2) I've actually thought that in the past w/BA that they sometimes need to throw a bone geographically. You look at any of their tweets once the season starts and it's non stop ACC-bias vs SEC bias vs West Coast bias, etc Also - really really hoping Bazzana is as good as advertised. |
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 31, 2022 11:55:29 GMT -8
And it continues: while BA has Cooper Hjerpe as a pre-season 2nd Team All-American (and PG has him on their 3rd team), D-1 Baseball ignored him altogether - teams released today (1/31/2022).
D-1 All-Amer. Teams 1, 2, and 3 have a total of 13 SEC, and for comparison, 7 PAC-12. Not such a bad ratio in actuality.
No Beavs listed by D-1 Baseball. The 7 from PAC include: 2 UA, 2 Cal, and 1 each ASU, Stanford, UO.
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