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Post by shelby on Nov 22, 2021 13:46:49 GMT -8
And - that ‘spin’ will always be their crying towel. However, I think it points to an ongoing problem with recruiting hype vs actual performance ! I cannot find It again, but. apparently, prior to taking the field in Utah, coach Crystalballs said; ‘ This will be a fight and we are ready !’ Hey Mario, your approach to recruiting and the offense is NOT going to get you your cherished ‘Natty’ ! Yes, you could get to the CFP agaiin, but, you will get there only because of NIKE ! Two major problems 1) Prima Donna recruits that are playing only to hit the NFL jackpot, and2) Your ‘conservative’ ( boring ) offense is pretty easy for a really good team to scheme against Tell Nemec that a ‘top ranked, 5 star recruiting class, does not guarantee anything . You need a TEAM that understands teamwork . I really hate this take. First of all you have to work your ass off to even become good enough to be a 5 star recruit. Secondly we would be absolutely thrilled to get a 5 star recruit just once in program history (I can't think of a single one off the top of my head). It's all of the UO fans that we all know that are prima donnas and the ones that make us hate the Ducks. Their kids and coaches work just as hard and care just as much as ours do and we'd love them if they were Beavers (assuming they had never been covered with that Duck stink to taint our opinion of them).
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Post by beavs6 on Nov 22, 2021 14:15:41 GMT -8
And - that ‘spin’ will always be their crying towel. However, I think it points to an ongoing problem with recruiting hype vs actual performance ! I cannot find It again, but. apparently, prior to taking the field in Utah, coach Crystalballs said; ‘ This will be a fight and we are ready !’ Hey Mario, your approach to recruiting and the offense is NOT going to get you your cherished ‘Natty’ ! Yes, you could get to the CFP agaiin, but, you will get there only because of NIKE ! Two major problems 1) Prima Donna recruits that are playing only to hit the NFL jackpot, and2) Your ‘conservative’ ( boring ) offense is pretty easy for a really good team to scheme against Tell Nemec that a ‘top ranked, 5 star recruiting class, does not guarantee anything . You need a TEAM that understands teamwork . I really hate this take. First of all you have to work your ass off to even become good enough to be a 5 star recruit. Secondly we would be absolutely thrilled to get a 5 star recruit just once in program history (I can't think of a single one off the top of my head). It's all of the UO fans that we all know that are prima donnas and the ones that make us hate the Ducks. Their kids and coaches work just as hard and care just as much as ours do and we'd love them if they were Beavers (assuming they had never been covered with that Duck stink to taint our opinion of them). Well...maybe. 5* recruit really only means that in the eyes of the recruiting service, the athlete is ready to play at a program immediately. Not all, but many 5*'s are 5*'s because they are naturally bigger/faster/stronger than their age-based peers. That bigger/faster/stronger can be because they "worked their asses off", but it can just be because they developed faster/sooner than their peers. Or they can be Freaks of Nature. None of it means a 5*'s "worked their ass off". Many 5*s do not have the discipline to work...on their body or their craft(skill development) because their natural athletic ability made them BETTER than all of the players around them AND they did not have a parent/coach/mentor to instill the need for a work ethic to go with their FREAK athletic ability. I guess what I'm saying is that all 5's are not created equal.
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 22, 2021 14:24:11 GMT -8
I really hate this take. First of all you have to work your ass off to even become good enough to be a 5 star recruit. Secondly we would be absolutely thrilled to get a 5 star recruit just once in program history (I can't think of a single one off the top of my head). It's all of the UO fans that we all know that are prima donnas and the ones that make us hate the Ducks. Their kids and coaches work just as hard and care just as much as ours do and we'd love them if they were Beavers (assuming they had never been covered with that Duck stink to taint our opinion of them). Isaac Seumalo was a 5 star. We had a little help with him.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 22, 2021 14:30:30 GMT -8
Alabama lost to an A&M team that otherwise has beaten no one and played an OOC Murderer's Row of Kent State, Prairie View, New Mexico and Colorado, when Colorado was really bad (it has improved significantly since losing 10-7 to A&M). So I don't hold a 3-point loss at Ames to a decent ISU team against Okie State. It's hard to win every game.
Bama's OOC was a joke; Miami was the only team halfway decent. It's best win is against Ole Miss. I think Georgia will destroy them and hopefully send them to the Citrus Bowl. As you say, we shall see. Cincy's QB is the real deal.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Nov 22, 2021 14:59:10 GMT -8
And - that ‘spin’ will always be their crying towel. However, I think it points to an ongoing problem with recruiting hype vs actual performance ! I cannot find It again, but. apparently, prior to taking the field in Utah, coach Crystalballs said; ‘ This will be a fight and we are ready !’ Hey Mario, your approach to recruiting and the offense is NOT going to get you your cherished ‘Natty’ ! Yes, you could get to the CFP agaiin, but, you will get there only because of NIKE ! Two major problems 1) Prima Donna recruits that are playing only to hit the NFL jackpot, and2) Your ‘conservative’ ( boring ) offense is pretty easy for a really good team to scheme against Tell Nemec that a ‘top ranked, 5 star recruiting class, does not guarantee anything . You need a TEAM that understands teamwork . I really hate this take. First of all you have to work your ass off to even become good enough to be a 5 star recruit. Secondly we would be absolutely thrilled to get a 5 star recruit just once in program history (I can't think of a single one off the top of my head). It's all of the UO fans that we all know that are prima donnas and the ones that make us hate the Ducks. Their kids and coaches work just as hard and care just as much as ours do and we'd love them if they were Beavers (assuming they had never been covered with that Duck stink to taint our opinion of them). Mostly the fans....but also just the general shoving of the ducks down our throats. They are consistently overrated and now get the benefit of the doubt, even after a bad loss. They only slipped to #11 after getting absolutely destroyed by Utah. Some think christobal will get the Florida job. I don't think he will, and I hope he doesn't. I like him right where he is. He can recruit, but can he develop players? Doesn't seem like it.....so I would say the recruits aren't prima Donna's as much as they aren't coached up properly.....see Justin Herbert in the NFL vs at Hole.
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 22, 2021 15:02:42 GMT -8
I really hate this take. First of all you have to work your ass off to even become good enough to be a 5 star recruit. Secondly we would be absolutely thrilled to get a 5 star recruit just once in program history (I can't think of a single one off the top of my head). It's all of the UO fans that we all know that are prima donnas and the ones that make us hate the Ducks. Their kids and coaches work just as hard and care just as much as ours do and we'd love them if they were Beavers (assuming they had never been covered with that Duck stink to taint our opinion of them). Mostly the fans....but also just the general shoving of the ducks down our throats. They are consistently overrated and now get the benefit of the doubt, even after a bad loss. They only slipped to #11 after getting absolutely destroyed by Utah. Some think christobal will get the Florida job. I don't think he will, and I hope he doesn't. I like him right where he is. He can recruit, but can he develop players? Doesn't seem like it.....so I would say the recruits aren't prima Donna's as much as they aren't coached up properly.....see Justin Herbert in the NFL vs at Hole. Miami is the job that Critoballs would consider. It's a worse job than what he has now....but it is his alma mater.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 22, 2021 15:48:45 GMT -8
Isaac, and Derek probably was as well.
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Post by bleedorange21 on Nov 22, 2021 17:07:07 GMT -8
I would say there is an element of prima donnas that go to Oregon fro the uniforms and other special swagger they get. It makes them a little soft IMO. But there are players like Sewell that are tough as nails but I feel like he's more the exception.
Right now we have 2 programs that are going about their programs in different ways. Cristobal is trying to build the program through the trenches but that's never been the ducks so we'll see if it works. I just don't believe he's a very good coach and doesn't know how to install a culture and has poor in game management.
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Post by Mike84 on Nov 22, 2021 19:47:42 GMT -8
Speaking of duckish things, since it is THAT week and all....
On the road heading to our game against ASU, I could not get streaming working on my phone, so the only way I could follow the UO vs UU game was to (gag!) listen to the duck radio announcers. At one point in the first quarter, when they were still assuming a duck win, the sideline reporter commented on how loud the home crowd was for Utah. He said, to paraphrase, "When you're #3 in the country, you're going to get a loud crowd wherever you go".
Huh? Or, uh, Utah is playing to earn their way into the conference championship and they're really good and it's a night game at home and the crowd believes in their team and they are ALWAYS LOUD? Could that be a possibility? Could it have nothing at all to do with the ducks being ranked #3?
I was kind of surprised that he didn't say that they were getting Utah's best shot because "This is their Super Bowl!"
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 4, 2021 19:48:03 GMT -8
Who outside the top 4 do you think is better than Alabama? Alabama has been overrated at No. 2 from the start. No other team in the country could lose to unranked A&M and still start at No. 2. I think Ohio State would clean Alabama's clock. I think Cincinnati beats them, maybe even Okie State and Notre Dame. As much as I despise the Irish, they are pretty good. I'm hoping they lose to Auburn and then get boatraced by Georgia. Interestingly Auburn gave them a tougher game than Georgia! Huh
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 4, 2021 19:50:33 GMT -8
Who outside the top 4 do you think is better than Alabama? Alabama has been overrated at No. 2 from the start. No other team in the country could lose to unranked A&M and still start at No. 2. I think Ohio State would clean Alabama's clock. I think Cincinnati beats them, maybe even Okie State and Notre Dame. As much as I despise the Irish, they are pretty good. I'm hoping they lose to Auburn and then get boatraced by Georgia. Oops. Does overrated mean they win the National Championship? They will probably be the #1 seed now
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Post by grackle on Dec 5, 2021 8:10:55 GMT -8
And - that ‘spin’ will always be their crying towel. However, I think it points to an ongoing problem with recruiting hype vs actual performance ! I cannot find It again, but. apparently, prior to taking the field in Utah, coach Crystalballs said; ‘ This will be a fight and we are ready !’ Hey Mario, your approach to recruiting and the offense is NOT going to get you your cherished ‘Natty’ ! Yes, you could get to the CFP agaiin, but, you will get there only because of NIKE ! Two major problems 1) Prima Donna recruits that are playing only to hit the NFL jackpot, and2) Your ‘conservative’ ( boring ) offense is pretty easy for a really good team to scheme against Tell Nemec that a ‘top ranked, 5 star recruiting class, does not guarantee anything . You need a TEAM that understands teamwork . I really hate this take. First of all you have to work your ass off to even become good enough to be a 5 star recruit. Secondly we would be absolutely thrilled to get a 5 star recruit just once in program history (I can't think of a single one off the top of my head). It's all of the UO fans that we all know that are prima donnas and the ones that make us hate the Ducks. Their kids and coaches work just as hard and care just as much as ours do and we'd love them if they were Beavers (assuming they had never been covered with that Duck stink to taint our opinion of them). Shelby -- With regard to the $chmUck$, something about the whole mystique of their 5-star recruiting classes does stink on ice....If not, why has our team of miserable recruits beaten them in 2 of the past four Civil Wars??
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Post by beaver1989 on Dec 5, 2021 8:48:23 GMT -8
I really hate this take. First of all you have to work your ass off to even become good enough to be a 5 star recruit. Secondly we would be absolutely thrilled to get a 5 star recruit just once in program history (I can't think of a single one off the top of my head). It's all of the UO fans that we all know that are prima donnas and the ones that make us hate the Ducks. Their kids and coaches work just as hard and care just as much as ours do and we'd love them if they were Beavers (assuming they had never been covered with that Duck stink to taint our opinion of them). Shelby -- With regard to the $chmUck$, something about the whole mystique of their 5-star recruiting classes does stink on ice....If not, why has our team of miserable recruits beaten them in 2 of the past four Civil Wars?? Two of the last 6 Civil Wars. 2016 win 2017 loss 2018 loss 2019 loss 2020 win 2021 loss
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Post by beavheart on Dec 5, 2021 10:00:49 GMT -8
Alabama has been overrated at No. 2 from the start. No other team in the country could lose to unranked A&M and still start at No. 2. I think Ohio State would clean Alabama's clock. I think Cincinnati beats them, maybe even Okie State and Notre Dame. As much as I despise the Irish, they are pretty good. I'm hoping they lose to Auburn and then get boatraced by Georgia. Interestingly Auburn gave them a tougher game than Georgia! Huh So, Alabama beats Georgia, thereby ensuring that both teams will be in the playoff... NO WAY!! Who could have seen that coming??? What a CRAZY coincidence. **shakes head and walks away**
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 5, 2021 10:44:21 GMT -8
Interestingly Auburn gave them a tougher game than Georgia! Huh So, Alabama beats Georgia, thereby ensuring that both teams will be in the playoff... NO WAY!! Who could have seen that coming??? What a CRAZY coincidence. **shakes head and walks away** And, most likely Alabama will be the 1 seed and play Cincy and Michigan will play Georgia leading to a potential rematch in the title game. Worked out perfectly for the SEC
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