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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 15, 2021 20:06:29 GMT -8
Geez quit making excuses. Iowa state had like 5 transfers and was winless in the Big 12 last year. Tulsa sucks. Are we back to accepting a 500 record? Time to fire Tinkle already?
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Post by lebaneaver on Nov 15, 2021 20:08:04 GMT -8
Basketball? Hell….. the World Series was on just a couple weeks ago. We have AT LEAST three football games to play. Basketball? Sheeeeeeyit.
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Post by beaverstever on Nov 15, 2021 20:23:43 GMT -8
WTs teams run like an old Ferrari. When it’s going, it’s like a dream. But most of the time it can’t get out of the garage.
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Post by lefty on Nov 15, 2021 20:28:23 GMT -8
This is a weak team and poorly coached. Hunt is about as weak a PG that I have seen. Shooting, defense, passing, rebounds, FT Shooting it is bad. Saying that I think we got homered tonight on several calls towards the end of the game. This is a very weak team. Predict 8 -10 wins.
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Post by speakthetruth on Nov 15, 2021 20:32:46 GMT -8
Geez quit making excuses. Iowa state had like 5 transfers and was winless in the Big 12 last year. Tulsa sucks. Are we back to accepting a 500 record? Time to fire Tinkle already? Don't know. But I look at football and see what happens when you have a very good coach. But some would give tinkle a job for life because he made it to elite eight. Never mind he has been a 500 coach,
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Nov 15, 2021 20:33:21 GMT -8
Well, I'm a bit more worried now than I was after the exhibition game. The last 12 minutes of the PSU game had me feeling better, but these last two games, particularly on the offensive end, have me concerned for the rest of non-conference play. We gave up 60 and 64 points, we should be able to score enough on the offensive end to win these last two games. Free throw shooting has been poor in all three games so far, and without looking at the actual stats, I think it's possible only Jarod and Calloo are above 50% at the line. We set a school record last year for FT%, and there's no way we go the entire year shooting around 50% from the stripe.
We were better shooting the ball today for the most part. We hit some shots from deep but are still struggling with too many turnovers and not creating enough easy looks, and it does seem like even when we do create good looks we aren't hitting them or are letting balls bounce off our hands and into a defender's or out of bounds. I agree with a previous poster, we miss Ethan and Zach a lot right now. It's very evident now how much of the offense was facilitated by those two guys (#1 and 2 in assists on last year's team). During the tourney run when Ethan was occasionally in foul trouble we managed to get by when he was on the bench, but that was 5-12 minutes a game (if that), not all 40. This SHOULD get better as the year goes on.
Defensively my main concern was our difficulties with rebounding considering on paper we were the bigger team. This is a theme for WT teams though, in large part because of the zone defenses we run. We're a GREAT defensive team at stopping the first shot, and have been most of the time WT has been here. Regardless of what defense you run though, eventually it becomes man on man and you just have to turn and find a guy to put a body on to clean up the glass.
I said before these two games I would've been fine with winning 1 and dropping 1. I stand by that because road games are tough, especially early in the year when it's been nearly two years since playing in front of actual visiting fans (although the Loyola game in Indianappolis felt like an away game in that arena... Walking around the area around the arena you would've thought the game was in Chicago). That being said, I am still disappointed with dropping both games as they both were winnable if we clean up some very fixable things.
I'm not hitting the panic button quite yet, but I am genuinely concerned with some areas right now. We have two games to "get right" before we play Wake Forest and either LSU or Penn State. We'll learn a lot about how much these guys are going to improve this year over the next couple of weeks before a couple of conference games start.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Nov 15, 2021 20:35:15 GMT -8
Time to fire Tinkle already? Don't know. But I look at football and see what happens when you have a very good coach. A coach that in two 4th down decisions potentially cost his team two different games this year? And got very lucky on another just two days ago that the defense came up with a takeaway? (For the record I love JS and am happy he is here, but his in-game decision making is still mind-boggling to me)
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 15, 2021 20:36:43 GMT -8
Time to fire Tinkle already? Don't know. But I look at football and see what happens when you have a very good coach. But some would give tinkle a job for life because he made it to elite eight. Never mind he has been a 500 coach, Our football coach is 15-26. I thought you were concerned about .500 coaches, not sub .500 coaches.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Nov 15, 2021 20:39:21 GMT -8
This is a weak team and poorly coached. Hunt is about as weak a PG that I have seen. Shooting, defense, passing, rebounds, FT Shooting it is bad. Saying that I think we got homered tonight on several calls towards the end of the game. This is a very weak team. Predict 8 -10 wins. I agree there were a couple of calls down the stretch that were... questionable at best. Saying their guy was shooting when that foul was called (he made both FTs anyway, so in the end a wash), the timeout that was granted that should've been a jump ball, and the referee blowing the whistle prematurely leading to Warith not going for a rebound down low were three that were pretty clear. However, we should not have been in a situation where those should've mattered anyway.
I think 8-10 wins is a little harsh for the record as well as calling them poorly coached three games into a season after the same coach got his team playing some of the best team basketball we've seen played here in over 30 years.
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Post by speakthetruth on Nov 15, 2021 20:46:01 GMT -8
Don't know. But I look at football and see what happens when you have a very good coach. But some would give tinkle a job for life because he made it to elite eight. Never mind he has been a 500 coach, Our football coach is 15-26. I thought you were concerned about .500 coaches, not sub .500 coaches. Football is on a upward trajectory. Basketball not so much. This is what tinkles 8th year? His team should be doing better than losing to Iowa state and Tulsa and struggling with Portland state
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 15, 2021 20:55:28 GMT -8
Geez quit making excuses. Iowa state had like 5 transfers and was winless in the Big 12 last year. Tulsa sucks. Are we back to accepting a 500 record? Time to fire Tinkle already? Sounds like it.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Nov 15, 2021 20:55:40 GMT -8
Our football coach is 15-26. I thought you were concerned about .500 coaches, not sub .500 coaches. Football is on a upward trajectory. Basketball not so much. This is what tinkles 8th year? His team should be doing better than losing to Iowa state and Tulsa and struggling with Portland state
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 15, 2021 20:56:21 GMT -8
WTs teams run like an old Ferrari. When it’s going, it’s like a dream. But most of the time it can’t get out of the garage. Very few people have the know how to tune 6 Weber carbs!
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 15, 2021 20:59:00 GMT -8
I’m somewhat comforted to know that Speaks is a consistent poster across different sports.
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Post by speakthetruth on Nov 15, 2021 20:59:49 GMT -8
So I guess my question to some of you is a team getting hot for three weeks a lifetime contract for the coach?
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