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Post by sparty on Oct 12, 2021 11:44:00 GMT -8
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Post by nwhoopfan on Oct 12, 2021 12:08:26 GMT -8
Nothing unreasonable there. That is really strange seeing ASU picked 8th though. I could see them finishing higher. Might not really matter much, but I think Washington and Cal both have more upside than Utah, I could see the Utes finishing in the basement. They were bad last year, didn't add much, and are a fairly veteran team that you wouldn't expect a lot of growth for most of their players at this point in their careers. I can also easily see Washington St. finishing well below 6th. They aren't going to sneak up on anybody this season.
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Post by rmancarl on Oct 13, 2021 12:16:12 GMT -8
This comment from the Pac-12 Commissioner:
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 13, 2021 15:55:45 GMT -8
This comment from the Pac-12 Commissioner: I like the idea, but if I'm not mistaken he's a bit off? Unless he's meaning different teams from the same conference? Then again it's only 6 different if you go back to Cal in 2013?? Pac12 had no F4 team in 2018 or 2015. UConn (whatever conference they are in at the time) 13 straight F4s. Well meaning, but inaccurate. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 13, 2021 16:19:01 GMT -8
This comment from the Pac-12 Commissioner: I like the idea, but if I'm not mistaken he's a bit off? Unless he's meaning different teams from the same conference? Then again it's only 6 different if you go back to Cal in 2013?? Pac12 had no F4 team in 2018 or 2015. UConn (whatever conference they are in at the time) 13 straight F4s. Well meaning, but inaccurate. 2016 OSU UW 2017 Stanford 2018 none 2019 OR 2020 no tournament 2021 Stanford UA. Thats 6 Final Four appearances for Pac-12 teams in 6 years. Which is exactly what he said. |
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Post by rgeorge on Oct 13, 2021 17:03:40 GMT -8
I like the idea, but if I'm not mistaken he's a bit off? Unless he's meaning different teams from the same conference? Then again it's only 6 different if you go back to Cal in 2013?? Pac12 had no F4 team in 2018 or 2015. UConn (whatever conference they are in at the time) 13 straight F4s. Well meaning, but inaccurate. 2016 OSU UW 2017 Stanford 2018 none 2019 OR 2020 no tournament 2021 Stanford UA. Thats 6 Final Four appearances for Pac-12 teams in 6 years. Which is exactly what he said. Your words add "teams"... not what he said. And, I included that interpretation in my post. Thx |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 13, 2021 17:33:01 GMT -8
2016 OSU UW 2017 Stanford 2018 none 2019 OR 2020 no tournament 2021 Stanford UA. Thats 6 Final Four appearances for Pac-12 teams in 6 years. Which is exactly what he said. Your words add "teams"... not what he said. And, I included that interpretation in my post. Thx "Over the last six seasons, the Pac-12 leads all conferences in Women’s Basketball Final Four appearances (6)". So please explain how you can interpret that sentence other than the way I helpfully spelled-out above. How does the count come out to anything other than 6 Final Four appearances in 6 years. Specifically, what is your count of Final Four appearances, if it's not 6? You can use both hands. |
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Post by rmancarl on Oct 13, 2021 18:54:46 GMT -8
I think it's obvious he was talking about 6 teams making appearances, but if we want to be nitpicky, then yes, the Pac-12 has only appeared in 4 final 4's in the last 6 seasons. I don't think that takes away from how strong the pac-12 is or what he was trying to express.
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Post by escott58 on Oct 13, 2021 19:11:49 GMT -8
I agree strongly both ways.
Bob Uecker ??
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Post by beaverstever on Oct 14, 2021 8:27:47 GMT -8
Getting multiple teams in the F4 and different teams in over the years indicates a strong conference. Getting one team in repeatedly means very little, as we all know the Big East is a garbage WBB conference, regardless of UConn’s many F4 appearances.
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Post by sparty on Oct 14, 2021 8:54:02 GMT -8
Getting multiple teams in the F4 and different teams in over the years indicates a strong conference. Getting one team in repeatedly means very little, as we all know the Big East is a garbage WBB conference, regardless of UConn’s many F4 appearances. It is a joke in the conference UCONN plays in. I don’t know how their fans get excited about having conference games. They have a pre conference slate and and March madness. It looks pretty dull as a fan playing cupcakes in between. |
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Post by beavsteve on Oct 14, 2021 9:02:23 GMT -8
Nothing unreasonable there. That is really strange seeing ASU picked 8th though. I could see them finishing higher. Might not really matter much, but I think Washington and Cal both have more upside than Utah, I could see the Utes finishing in the basement. They were bad last year, didn't add much, and are a fairly veteran team that you wouldn't expect a lot of growth for most of their players at this point in their careers. I can also easily see Washington St. finishing well below 6th. They aren't going to sneak up on anybody this season. Did anyone else see that Bessoir for UCLA (tall import, who is supposed to be very good) tore her ACL? Given that, Dugalic is their most experienced tall backup (uckie transfer, 6'-4" like Bessoir ) but not much size behind that. Given that and their history of under-performing (for the talent they have), I question whether they should be at #3. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Oct 14, 2021 10:30:53 GMT -8
Nothing unreasonable there. That is really strange seeing ASU picked 8th though. I could see them finishing higher. Might not really matter much, but I think Washington and Cal both have more upside than Utah, I could see the Utes finishing in the basement. They were bad last year, didn't add much, and are a fairly veteran team that you wouldn't expect a lot of growth for most of their players at this point in their careers. I can also easily see Washington St. finishing well below 6th. They aren't going to sneak up on anybody this season. Did anyone else see that Bessoir for UCLA (tall import, who is supposed to be very good) tore her ACL? Given that, Dugalic is their most experienced tall backup (uckie transfer, 6'-4" like Bessoir ) but not much size behind that. Given that and their history of under-performing (for the talent they have), I question whether they should be at #3. Yeah, that's a costly injury. They also have a tall Australian who couldn't get into the country last year, 6-4 Anstey, and returning 6-3 Jr. who I think sat out last year, Masikewich. Not sure how good any of them will be, but even w/ the injury to Bessoir they have a few more big bodies than last season.
What will make or break them is how well the 3 veteran transfer guards/wings fit in--Conti, Thomas and Penn.
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Post by greybeav on Oct 14, 2021 11:16:05 GMT -8
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Post by 411500 on Oct 14, 2021 11:58:59 GMT -8
With 8 players on their roster standing in at 5'9 - 5'11 the Bruins are gonna do a lot of running and pressing, frenetic D and if they've got the shooters, a lot of 3-point shooting.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dugalic works her way into the starting lineup before Christmas - she's tall, mobile and athletic and Close gets good mileage out of those players....
Osborne is a very good guard in a league full of them. But it seems to me they've gotta find muscle and height somewhere to finish in the top 4....Losing Onyenware is gonna hurt them a lot because they don't have anyone who can come close to filing her shoes.
GO BEAVS!
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